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6/19/2012 2:43:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This pretty much sums up every debate I've had on the speech and debate team at my high school.
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6/19/2012 2:44:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
That dude has awesome hair.
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6/21/2012 11:35:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/19/2012 2:43:45 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
This pretty much sums up every debate I've had on the speech and debate team at my high school.

This....
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6/21/2012 11:37:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/19/2012 2:44:41 PM, socialpinko wrote:
That dude has awesome hair.

I think that was koopin...
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6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?
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6/22/2012 12:24:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

It's funny that's why. And don't think you're a great debater when you've been here for two months brah. No one is scared to debate you.
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6/22/2012 12:30:19 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:24:15 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

It's funny that's why. And don't think you're a great debater when you've been here for two months brah. No one is scared to debate you.

Yeah, And please don't pair yourself with contradiction. You two are in different leagues.
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6/22/2012 12:40:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:24:15 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

It's funny that's why. And don't think you're a great debater when you've been here for two months brah. No one is scared to debate you.

Like I said, you don't see opponents of gay marriage doing it. I agree that Contradiction is ten times the debater I am, but I can put up a pretty good fight and I've beaten Wallstreet on his own turf (tariffs) before. I'm just frustrated as to why all the SSM supporters make ridiculous, pointless threads that only serve to mock anyone who disagrees with their particular point of view. If he made an actual argument I wouldn't be so pissed off.
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6/22/2012 12:41:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I found these quite amusing.
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6/22/2012 12:42:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:24:15 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

It's funny that's why. And don't think you're a great debater when you've been here for two months brah. No one is scared to debate you.

I've been here for about a year, only made an account a few months ago. I hadn't debated before then, but I've read through hundreds of debates in the past and I think I know what I'm doing, seeing as I've been regularly beating some of the more experienced members.
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6/22/2012 7:11:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

Umad bro?

Anywho, I don't know you personally, but this looks to be showing some of your more unfortunate personality traits. You're vain and you get angry way too easily. Just try to calm down once a while, man.
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6/22/2012 8:10:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 7:11:49 AM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

Umad bro?

Anywho, I don't know you personally, but this looks to be showing some of your more unfortunate personality traits. You're vain and you get angry way too easily. Just try to calm down once a while, man.

Ohhhhhhhhh.

Dude, it just offends me to hear some guy telling me why I *really* don't support gay marriage. Even if it was satirical, I have had enough with these ad hominems. I have been harassed and repeatedly called homophobic for the crime of simply not agreeing to arbitrarily redefine marriage as "love between two individuals." So sorry if I appeared to overreact; it's one of my core beliefs to not judge people harshly. When some lady shoves past you in the supermarket without even acknowledging it, she's not in a hurry because her son is in the hospital or she could be about to lose her job, she's just a bitch, right?
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6/22/2012 8:22:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

after reading some of contradiction's SSM debates, I've found that they're full of nothing. His record comes from a voting bloc that wants to use him as a reference point for their bigotry. The votebombers aside, I'm sure many people can defeat you and Contradiction pretty easily in a debate.
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6/22/2012 8:43:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 8:22:49 AM, 000ike wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

after reading some of contradiction's SSM debates, I've found that they're full of nothing. His record comes from a voting bloc that wants to use him as a reference point for their bigotry. The votebombers aside, I'm sure many people can defeat you and Contradiction pretty easily in a debate.

Ad hominems get you nowhere with me. Right now, I'm just sick to death of the subject. There is a wealth of evidence even Contradiction seems to have ignored; I was going to use it against Danielle.
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6/22/2012 10:04:57 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Hey guys...the links were supposed to...guys listen...the links are satire, you know, and...like...aren't meant to be taken seriously mmmkay?
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6/22/2012 10:37:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 8:10:03 AM, MouthWash wrote:
At 6/22/2012 7:11:49 AM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

Umad bro?

Anywho, I don't know you personally, but this looks to be showing some of your more unfortunate personality traits. You're vain and you get angry way too easily. Just try to calm down once a while, man.

Ohhhhhhhhh.

Dude, it just offends me to hear some guy telling me why I *really* don't support gay marriage. Even if it was satirical, I have had enough with these ad hominems. I have been harassed and repeatedly called homophobic for the crime of simply not agreeing to arbitrarily redefine marriage as "love between two individuals." So sorry if I appeared to overreact; it's one of my core beliefs to not judge people harshly. When some lady shoves past you in the supermarket without even acknowledging it, she's not in a hurry because her son is in the hospital or she could be about to lose her job, she's just a bitch, right?

Dude, they're comedians. If you take them seriously you're gonna have a bad time. I saw ralphie may tell everybody who took French in high school to go fvck themselves, do you see me ranting about it? The point is, if you look to comedians for actual political advice, or if you take their content too personally, it's not going to end up well.
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6/22/2012 11:18:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:40:00 AM, MouthWash wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:24:15 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

It's funny that's why. And don't think you're a great debater when you've been here for two months brah. No one is scared to debate you.

I agree that Contradiction is ten times the debater I am, but I can put up a pretty good fight and I've beaten Wallstreet on his own turf (tariffs) before.

Congrats. But the DDO handbook states

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Just because you won a debate with against someone, does not give you the right to consider yourself good.
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6/22/2012 11:28:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 8:10:03 AM, MouthWash wrote:
At 6/22/2012 7:11:49 AM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

Umad bro?

Anywho, I don't know you personally, but this looks to be showing some of your more unfortunate personality traits. You're vain and you get angry way too easily. Just try to calm down once a while, man.

Ohhhhhhhhh.

Dude, it just offends me to hear some guy telling me why I *really* don't support gay marriage. Even if it was satirical, I have had enough with these ad hominems. I have been harassed and repeatedly called homophobic for the crime of simply not agreeing to arbitrarily redefine marriage as "love between two individuals." So sorry if I appeared to overreact; it's one of my core beliefs to not judge people harshly. When some lady shoves past you in the supermarket without even acknowledging it, she's not in a hurry because her son is in the hospital or she could be about to lose her job, she's just a bitch, right?

You DO know that marriage has CONSTANTLY been redefined all throughout history, right?
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6/22/2012 4:00:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 11:28:21 AM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 6/22/2012 8:10:03 AM, MouthWash wrote:
At 6/22/2012 7:11:49 AM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

Umad bro?

Anywho, I don't know you personally, but this looks to be showing some of your more unfortunate personality traits. You're vain and you get angry way too easily. Just try to calm down once a while, man.

Ohhhhhhhhh.

Dude, it just offends me to hear some guy telling me why I *really* don't support gay marriage. Even if it was satirical, I have had enough with these ad hominems. I have been harassed and repeatedly called homophobic for the crime of simply not agreeing to arbitrarily redefine marriage as "love between two individuals." So sorry if I appeared to overreact; it's one of my core beliefs to not judge people harshly. When some lady shoves past you in the supermarket without even acknowledging it, she's not in a hurry because her son is in the hospital or she could be about to lose her job, she's just a bitch, right?

You DO know that marriage has CONSTANTLY been redefined all throughout history, right?

Arbitrary marriage principles have been redefined, but rarely has the basis for marriage (one man+one women) been redefined.

Inb4 Polygamy, because that was actually quite rare in "civilized" cultures at that time.
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6/23/2012 12:48:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 10:37:15 AM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/22/2012 8:10:03 AM, MouthWash wrote:
At 6/22/2012 7:11:49 AM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

Umad bro?

Anywho, I don't know you personally, but this looks to be showing some of your more unfortunate personality traits. You're vain and you get angry way too easily. Just try to calm down once a while, man.

Ohhhhhhhhh.

Dude, it just offends me to hear some guy telling me why I *really* don't support gay marriage. Even if it was satirical, I have had enough with these ad hominems. I have been harassed and repeatedly called homophobic for the crime of simply not agreeing to arbitrarily redefine marriage as "love between two individuals." So sorry if I appeared to overreact; it's one of my core beliefs to not judge people harshly. When some lady shoves past you in the supermarket without even acknowledging it, she's not in a hurry because her son is in the hospital or she could be about to lose her job, she's just a bitch, right?

Dude, they're comedians. If you take them seriously you're gonna have a bad time. I saw ralphie may tell everybody who took French in high school to go fvck themselves, do you see me ranting about it? The point is, if you look to comedians for actual political advice, or if you take their content too personally, it's not going to end up well.

I don't care. I'm sick of being constantly made fun of for my beliefs. It may have been satirical, but it was making a genuine, offensive point. I shouldn't have written that, I'm just feeling like I'm starting to be discriminated against more than homosexuals themselves.
"Well, that gives whole new meaning to my assassination. If I was going to die anyway, perhaps I should leave the Bolsheviks' descendants some Christmas cookies instead of breaking their dishes and vodka bottles in their sleep." -Tsar Nicholas II (YYW)
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6/23/2012 1:03:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/23/2012 12:48:39 PM, MouthWash wrote
I don't care. I'm sick of being constantly made fun of for my beliefs. It may have been satirical, but it was making a genuine, offensive point. I shouldn't have written that, I'm just feeling like I'm starting to be discriminated against more than homosexuals themselves.

Don't hold ridiculously inane beliefs and no one will make fun of them.
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6/23/2012 1:26:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/23/2012 12:48:39 PM, MouthWash wrote:
At 6/22/2012 10:37:15 AM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/22/2012 8:10:03 AM, MouthWash wrote:
At 6/22/2012 7:11:49 AM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:21:07 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Competely fucktarded. When you beat me or Contradiction in a debate on the subject I'll have some respect for your opinion. Also, notice how opponents of SSM don't create entire threads to post their unfunny ad hominems. What was the point of this?

Umad bro?

Anywho, I don't know you personally, but this looks to be showing some of your more unfortunate personality traits. You're vain and you get angry way too easily. Just try to calm down once a while, man.

Ohhhhhhhhh.

Dude, it just offends me to hear some guy telling me why I *really* don't support gay marriage. Even if it was satirical, I have had enough with these ad hominems. I have been harassed and repeatedly called homophobic for the crime of simply not agreeing to arbitrarily redefine marriage as "love between two individuals." So sorry if I appeared to overreact; it's one of my core beliefs to not judge people harshly. When some lady shoves past you in the supermarket without even acknowledging it, she's not in a hurry because her son is in the hospital or she could be about to lose her job, she's just a bitch, right?

Dude, they're comedians. If you take them seriously you're gonna have a bad time. I saw ralphie may tell everybody who took French in high school to go fvck themselves, do you see me ranting about it? The point is, if you look to comedians for actual political advice, or if you take their content too personally, it's not going to end up well.

I don't care. I'm sick of being constantly made fun of for my beliefs. It may have been satirical, but it was making a genuine, offensive point. I shouldn't have written that, I'm just feeling like I'm starting to be discriminated against more than homosexuals themselves.

Being told your beliefs are wrong =/= Not being granted rights of normal citizens
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6/23/2012 1:42:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/23/2012 1:26:39 PM, TheOrator wrote:
At 6/23/2012 12:48:39 PM, MouthWash wrote:
I don't care. I'm sick of being constantly made fun of for my beliefs. It may have been satirical, but it was making a genuine, offensive point. I shouldn't have written that, I'm just feeling like I'm starting to be discriminated against more than homosexuals themselves.

Being told your beliefs are wrong =/= Not being granted rights of normal citizens

He just said that he's being made fun of for his beliefs, not that people were telling him his beliefs are wrong.
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6/23/2012 3:55:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
To be honest, even those two arguments are much better than all the arguments in favor of gay marriage which I have heard.
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6/23/2012 10:17:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/23/2012 3:55:33 PM, Clash wrote:
To be honest, even those two arguments are much better than all the arguments in favor of gay marriage which I have heard.

Would you please give us these supposed "horrible" arguments?
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6/23/2012 10:22:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/23/2012 10:17:25 PM, Cobo wrote:
At 6/23/2012 3:55:33 PM, Clash wrote:
To be honest, even those two arguments are much better than all the arguments in favor of gay marriage which I have heard.

Would you please give us these supposed "horrible" arguments?

Marriage is a right.
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6/23/2012 10:23:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/23/2012 10:17:25 PM, Cobo wrote:
At 6/23/2012 3:55:33 PM, Clash wrote:
To be honest, even those two arguments are much better than all the arguments in favor of gay marriage which I have heard.

Would you please give us these supposed "horrible" arguments?

1. Denying gay marriage means that you support pre 1964 Black societal levels.

2. You are secretly gay because empirical studies prove that opposing gay marriage means that you are gay.

3. HOMOPHOBE!

Chances are, it's usually the last two....combined.

Want me to go on?
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