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7/13/2012 9:38:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Post a video of pathetic enforcers of coercive law.

Manuel Ramos, a police officer from Fullerton, California, has been charged with second degree murder for allegedly beating a mentally-ill homeless person to death last year. His co-worker, Officer Jay Cicinelli, faces charges of involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force. This video from a surveillance camera shows Kelly Thomas, the victim, pleading for his life while the officers beat him on the street.
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7/14/2012 1:39:31 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Fucking swine.

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7/14/2012 9:34:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 9:32:23 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
Cops should receive extra punishment for crimes like this, but instead they receive little punishment.

Why should they be treated differently than an average person?
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7/14/2012 9:41:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Oh my god
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7/14/2012 9:53:10 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 9:34:42 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 7/14/2012 9:32:23 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
Cops should receive extra punishment for crimes like this, but instead they receive little punishment.

Why should they be treated differently than an average person?

1. They are part of the repressive power structure.

2. Crimes committed while on-duty are even more egregious because they are using their standing and trust in the community to commit them. This means that they are actually committing three crimes:

1. The crime they are being charged with.
2. Violation of civic trust vested in governmental officials
3. Violation of civil rights (if they target people like the homeless)
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7/14/2012 11:27:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 9:53:10 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 7/14/2012 9:34:42 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 7/14/2012 9:32:23 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
Cops should receive extra punishment for crimes like this, but instead they receive little punishment.

Why should they be treated differently than an average person?

1. They are part of the repressive power structure.

2. Crimes committed while on-duty are even more egregious because they are using their standing and trust in the community to commit them. This means that they are actually committing three crimes:

1. The crime they are being charged with.
2. Violation of civic trust vested in governmental officials
3. Violation of civil rights (if they target people like the homeless)

I don't understand your third point. Why would there be greater punishment for beating up a homeless person than for beating up someone with a home? Their natural rights should be the same.
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7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.
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7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.
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7/14/2012 6:38:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.

Except for the first point- which doesn't justify more punishment on the police men- her logic is actually pretty sound.
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7/14/2012 6:41:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 6:38:32 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.

Except for the first point- which doesn't justify more punishment on the police men- her logic is actually pretty sound.

The same could be said of many positions in the community. Merely because they are trusted, they should be punished more severely?
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7/14/2012 6:49:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 6:41:15 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:38:32 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.

Except for the first point- which doesn't justify more punishment on the police men- her logic is actually pretty sound.

The same could be said of many positions in the community. Merely because they are trusted, they should be punished more severely?

It's easier for them to commit crimes because of the trust vested in them. So yes, they should be punished more.
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7/14/2012 6:58:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 6:41:15 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:38:32 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.

Except for the first point- which doesn't justify more punishment on the police men- her logic is actually pretty sound.

The same could be said of many positions in the community. Merely because they are trusted, they should be punished more severely?

Cops aren't just trusted; they're also authorized with power by the law. If a policeman pulls you over, it is illegal to ignore the order. If a cop flashes a badge and demands that you stop, you must stop. If you suspect that the cop may have ill intent, you are not legally allowed to escape until he demonstrates full intent to harm you.
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7/14/2012 7:00:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 6:58:04 PM, mongeese wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:41:15 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:38:32 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.

Except for the first point- which doesn't justify more punishment on the police men- her logic is actually pretty sound.

The same could be said of many positions in the community. Merely because they are trusted, they should be punished more severely?

Cops aren't just trusted; they're also authorized with power by the law. If a policeman pulls you over, it is illegal to ignore the order. If a cop flashes a badge and demands that you stop, you must stop. If you suspect that the cop may have ill intent, you are not legally allowed to escape until he demonstrates full intent to harm you.

Well, yeah, if they abuse authority then they should be punished more so for the extra crime, but just because their cops?
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7/15/2012 12:40:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 6:58:04 PM, mongeese wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:41:15 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:38:32 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.

Except for the first point- which doesn't justify more punishment on the police men- her logic is actually pretty sound.

The same could be said of many positions in the community. Merely because they are trusted, they should be punished more severely?

Cops aren't just trusted; they're also authorized with power by the law. If a policeman pulls you over, it is illegal to ignore the order. If a cop flashes a badge and demands that you stop, you must stop. If you suspect that the cop may have ill intent, you are not legally allowed to escape until he demonstrates full intent to harm you.

I'm not sure about in your state, but in Oregon (and I thought it was a federal law, I'll look it up though), if you believe that the officer trying to pull you over is trying to harm you or not really an officer, you have the right to turn on your hazards and continue (while maintaining to follow traffic laws) to pull over to a well lit, public area.
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7/15/2012 12:40:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 6:41:15 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:38:32 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.

Except for the first point- which doesn't justify more punishment on the police men- her logic is actually pretty sound.

The same could be said of many positions in the community. Merely because they are trusted, they should be punished more severely?

Yes.
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mongeese
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7/15/2012 9:19:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/14/2012 7:00:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:58:04 PM, mongeese wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:41:15 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:38:32 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:36:02 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 7/14/2012 6:33:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It doesn't make sense to punish police more. They're apart of the same conception that punishment is actually effective.

Royal's logic rarely follows through.

Except for the first point- which doesn't justify more punishment on the police men- her logic is actually pretty sound.

The same could be said of many positions in the community. Merely because they are trusted, they should be punished more severely?

Cops aren't just trusted; they're also authorized with power by the law. If a policeman pulls you over, it is illegal to ignore the order. If a cop flashes a badge and demands that you stop, you must stop. If you suspect that the cop may have ill intent, you are not legally allowed to escape until he demonstrates full intent to harm you.

Well, yeah, if they abuse authority then they should be punished more so for the extra crime, but just because their cops?

Well, if they use their authority as a cop while committing the crime, either by wearing the uniform, flashing a badge, or just asserting that they're a cop, then most definitely.