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Environmental issues that divide liberals?

darkkermit
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7/17/2012 9:32:05 AM
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Any ideology has some level of gradients to them to what they believe and how far they are willing to go. A pro-lifer isn't necessarily bombing abortion clinics.

Liberalism doesn't seem to have a core central philosophy.
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socialpinko
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7/17/2012 9:40:31 AM
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Whether the State is necessary to protect the environment.....
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7/17/2012 9:44:16 AM
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Liberals as in philosophical liberals or political liberals? Im assuming you mean political.

One issue would be fracking or pipeline development. Environmentalists are against both, but the unions are for both (assuming they get the contracts).
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7/17/2012 9:45:20 AM
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At 7/17/2012 9:40:31 AM, socialpinko wrote:
Whether the State is necessary to protect the environment.....

Only a very small fraction of the population (anarchist) actually believe this.

I also don't get left-wing anarchist who ask for more state control (ex: government paying for higher education, government paying for medicine, housing, welfare redistribution, etc.)
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7/17/2012 9:52:55 AM
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At 7/17/2012 9:45:20 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 7/17/2012 9:40:31 AM, socialpinko wrote:
Whether the State is necessary to protect the environment.....

Only a very small fraction of the population (anarchist) actually believe this.

I also don't get left-wing anarchist who ask for more state control (ex: government paying for higher education, government paying for medicine, housing, welfare redistribution, etc.)

Well, I think that the rationale is that they think the community should be providing for those things, but since the state exists, the state should do it. They're operating in the context of a state for those issues.
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7/17/2012 9:53:28 AM
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At 7/17/2012 9:39:51 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
...we're never gonna find a resolution we disagree on

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7/17/2012 10:07:23 AM
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At 7/17/2012 9:44:16 AM, CiRrK wrote:
Liberals as in philosophical liberals or political liberals? Im assuming you mean political.

One issue would be fracking or pipeline development. Environmentalists are against both, but the unions are for both (assuming they get the contracts).

Well, I am considered a liberal, and I support expanded use of natural gas, as long as water is protected.
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7/17/2012 10:39:45 AM
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At 7/17/2012 8:33:03 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
Does anybody know of any environmental issues that divide liberals?

Should we protect the environment; should the state protect the environment; basically any economic issue regarding ecologism; is the environment worth preserving

Essentially any issue. Liberalism is a tenet adopted by basically all by now, to some extent. Republicans are in a large share classical liberals. The Constitution is one of the most classical liberal documents written. Try narrowing it down slightly.
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