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How do Hawaiians see themselves?

comoncents
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9/3/2009 4:15:44 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
what do hawaiians see themselves as first... hawaiian or american?

it seems that every hawaiian i speak with sees themselves as pacific islanders before seeing themselves as americans.

i post it here b/c our president, Barack Hussein Obama II, is from hawaii and in hopes that i can settle the question in my mind.
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9/3/2009 7:52:22 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
People are always more patriotic to their locality before their country.

For example in England there is allot of rivalry between southerners and northerners. And allot of rivalry between counties, but we always muck together when the rivalry is between another country.
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9/3/2009 8:08:29 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/3/2009 7:52:22 PM, Nik wrote:
People are always more patriotic to their locality before their country.

For example in England there is allot of rivalry between southerners and northerners. And allot of rivalry between counties, but we always muck together when the rivalry is between another country.

I get that but I have always seen America as different.

my grandfather was Cuban... he always said the the proudest he has ever been was the moment he became an American citizen...

he was American first...
I am Cuban American but I am American first...

maybe I just have a different view on things b/c I did serve in the military, never really claiming one state as home.

I mean I am southern also but American first.

I understand what you are saying... I just can not wrap my head around the concept.
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9/3/2009 8:37:39 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Texan!
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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9/3/2009 8:42:09 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/3/2009 8:37:39 PM, mongoose wrote:
Texan!

yeah... funny...
i get it... my mind just does not think in that respect
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9/3/2009 8:53:18 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/3/2009 8:50:24 PM, Puck wrote:
With a mirror.

Boom Boom.

>.>

That made me laugh.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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9/3/2009 9:00:59 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/3/2009 8:53:18 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 9/3/2009 8:50:24 PM, Puck wrote:
With a mirror.

Boom Boom.

>.>

That made me laugh.

Same. Well done Puck.
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9/4/2009 6:26:49 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Most of my cousins were born and bred in Hawaii, although only a few still live there. They all love Hawaii and hate Florida where many of them now live and they still keep faith with the Hawaiian way of life (the girls wear bikini tops and flowers in their hair and the boys go about in colourful trunks and no shoes).

That said, they are all proud to be Americans (even though the oldest two were born in the UK).
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9/4/2009 6:32:00 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/3/2009 7:52:22 PM, Nik wrote:
People are always more patriotic to their locality before their country.

For example in England there is allot of rivalry between southerners and northerners. And allot of rivalry between counties, but we always muck together when the rivalry is between another country.

Yes, that's true. I was born and bred in Tyneside in the north east of England where Nik would be described as a "soft southerner" and when I moved down south I was called a "northern bastard" but when push comes to shove and the English are up against Johnny Foreigner, all enmities are put to one side!
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9/5/2009 6:59:35 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/4/2009 6:32:00 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:

Yes, that's true. I was born and bred in Tyneside in the north east of England where Nik would be described as a "soft southerner" and when I moved down south I was called a "northern bastard" but when push comes to shove and the English are up against Johnny Foreigner, all enmities are put to one side!

True, but my dads northern (cumbria) my mums southern (kent) I was born in the south (london) but educated in a boarding school in north yorkshire. So my accent is uniquely fooked, and im both a southern softie and a northern bastard! Even people in Birmingham shun me! I just cant win.
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9/6/2009 1:32:23 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/5/2009 6:59:35 PM, Nik wrote:
At 9/4/2009 6:32:00 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:

Yes, that's true. I was born and bred in Tyneside in the north east of England where Nik would be described as a "soft southerner" and when I moved down south I was called a "northern bastard" but when push comes to shove and the English are up against Johnny Foreigner, all enmities are put to one side!

True, but my dads northern (cumbria) my mums southern (kent) I was born in the south (london) but educated in a boarding school in north yorkshire. So my accent is uniquely fooked, and im both a southern softie and a northern bastard! Even people in Birmingham shun me! I just cant win.

LOL! The fact that Brummies shun you should be a matter of pride!

B/T/W, I bet nobody expected the focus of this thread to be shifted from Hawaii to the West Midlands!
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9/6/2009 1:38:40 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/6/2009 1:32:23 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 9/5/2009 6:59:35 PM, Nik wrote:
At 9/4/2009 6:32:00 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:

Yes, that's true. I was born and bred in Tyneside in the north east of England where Nik would be described as a "soft southerner" and when I moved down south I was called a "northern bastard" but when push comes to shove and the English are up against Johnny Foreigner, all enmities are put to one side!

True, but my dads northern (cumbria) my mums southern (kent) I was born in the south (london) but educated in a boarding school in north yorkshire. So my accent is uniquely fooked, and im both a southern softie and a northern bastard! Even people in Birmingham shun me! I just cant win.

LOL! The fact that Brummies shun you should be a matter of pride!

B/T/W, I bet nobody expected the focus of this thread to be shifted from Hawaii to the West Midlands!

no!no!no!

it is great. i do not get to hear this stuff.
i think it is great.
keep it up.
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9/6/2009 6:28:30 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
I see myself as Dublinese, then Irish, then European. When Aliens come, I'm Earthian :).
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9/6/2009 6:58:13 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/6/2009 6:28:30 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I see myself as Dublinese, then Irish, then European. When Aliens come, I'm Earthian :).

Texan first. And last. And everything in between.
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9/6/2009 7:02:00 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I don't know how I see myself.

I guess I'm Canadian. I don't necessarily distinguish between English and French Canadian, or Ontarian and Quebecer/Albertan/etc. - just Canadian.

I mean, hell, I'm a Toronto-born Montreal Canadiens fan. That is your first indication of how cosmopolitan I am.
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9/7/2009 6:29:52 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/6/2009 1:32:23 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 9/5/2009 6:59:35 PM, Nik wrote:
At 9/4/2009 6:32:00 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:

Yes, that's true. I was born and bred in Tyneside in the north east of England where Nik would be described as a "soft southerner" and when I moved down south I was called a "northern bastard" but when push comes to shove and the English are up against Johnny Foreigner, all enmities are put to one side!

True, but my dads northern (cumbria) my mums southern (kent) I was born in the south (london) but educated in a boarding school in north yorkshire. So my accent is uniquely fooked, and im both a southern softie and a northern bastard! Even people in Birmingham shun me! I just cant win.

LOL! The fact that Brummies shun you should be a matter of pride!

B/T/W, I bet nobody expected the focus of this thread to be shifted from Hawaii to the West Midlands!

Don't take it personal, we shun everybody.
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9/7/2009 10:07:32 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 9/6/2009 6:58:13 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 9/6/2009 6:28:30 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I see myself as Dublinese, then Irish, then European. When Aliens come, I'm Earthian :).

Texan first. And last. And everything in between.

Revolution much?
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