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Microsuck
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8/7/2012 6:15:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I am urging all Ron Paul supporters to endorse Gary Johnson for the 2012 general elections.

http://www.examiner.com...

I hope 8 happens, but I highly doubt it. If Gary Johnson gets into the debate, photo 6 is most likely going to happen.

In short, I urge all Ron Paul (Libertarians and disdained Romney and Obama) supporters to vote for Gary Johnson for these reasons:

1) He is better than both choices for GOP and dems;
2) Voting for the lesser of the two evils will always bring forth more evil;
3) We are at a time where we need to not just slow government growth down, but drastically reduce it. Johnson is the only person running with a plan to reduce government;
4) We need a balanced budget and we need one NOW. Gary Johnson has experience in New Mexico balancing out the state budget and returned a state deficit into a surplus;
5) His track record is better than anyone's in the entire election; and
6) Our voice sends a message to DC saying that enough is enough.

For these reasons, I urge those who do not like Obama nor Romney to vote for Johnson in 2012.

Further reading: http://www.garyjohnson2012.com...
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8/7/2012 6:18:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:15:37 PM, Microsuck wrote:
I am urging all Ron Paul supporters to endorse Gary Johnson for the 2012 general elections.

http://www.examiner.com...

I hope 8 happens, but I highly doubt it. If Gary Johnson gets into the debate, photo 6 is most likely going to happen.

In short, I urge all Ron Paul (Libertarians and disdained Romney and Obama) supporters to vote for Gary Johnson for these reasons:

1) He is better than both choices for GOP and dems;
2) Voting for the lesser of the two evils will always bring forth more evil;
3) We are at a time where we need to not just slow government growth down, but drastically reduce it. Johnson is the only person running with a plan to reduce government;
4) We need a balanced budget and we need one NOW. Gary Johnson has experience in New Mexico balancing out the state budget and returned a state deficit into a surplus;
5) His track record is better than anyone's in the entire election; and
6) Our voice sends a message to DC saying that enough is enough.

For these reasons, I urge those who do not like Obama nor Romney to vote for Johnson in 2012.

Further reading: http://www.garyjohnson2012.com...

I'm voting for him,
I don't see why Ron Paul doesn't endorse him.
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8/7/2012 6:23:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Yes! Jump ship!
The Paul bandwagon broke down on the side of the road.

But the Gary Johnson bandwagon is just getting rolling.
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8/7/2012 6:26:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Only if you live in a swing state. I live in New York, so it doesn't really matter.
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8/7/2012 6:28:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:18:41 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:15:37 PM, Microsuck wrote:
I am urging all Ron Paul supporters to endorse Gary Johnson for the 2012 general elections.

http://www.examiner.com...

I hope 8 happens, but I highly doubt it. If Gary Johnson gets into the debate, photo 6 is most likely going to happen.

In short, I urge all Ron Paul (Libertarians and disdained Romney and Obama) supporters to vote for Gary Johnson for these reasons:

1) He is better than both choices for GOP and dems;
2) Voting for the lesser of the two evils will always bring forth more evil;
3) We are at a time where we need to not just slow government growth down, but drastically reduce it. Johnson is the only person running with a plan to reduce government;
4) We need a balanced budget and we need one NOW. Gary Johnson has experience in New Mexico balancing out the state budget and returned a state deficit into a surplus;
5) His track record is better than anyone's in the entire election; and
6) Our voice sends a message to DC saying that enough is enough.

For these reasons, I urge those who do not like Obama nor Romney to vote for Johnson in 2012.

Further reading: http://www.garyjohnson2012.com...

I'm voting for him,
I don't see why Ron Paul doesn't endorse him.

http://www.thedailybeast.com...
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8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.
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8/7/2012 6:28:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:26:18 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Only if you live in a swing state. I live in New York, so it doesn't really matter.

And I live in Maryland, one of the top 10 democratic states in the US.
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8/7/2012 6:29:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Done. FB official.
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8/7/2012 6:33:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Jill Stein is:

1) Better than both choices for GOP and dems;
2) Voting for the lesser of the two evils will always bring forth more evil;
3) We are at a time where we need to not just slow government growth down, but drastically Decentralize it. Jill Stein is the only person running with a plan to reduce over-centralization;
4) She's not crazy
5) I like the colour Green
6) Our voice sends a message to DC saying that enough is enough.

For these reasons, I urge those who do not like Obama nor Romney to vote for Stein in 2012.

Further reading: http://www.garyjohnson2012.com......
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8/7/2012 6:34:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You know, Yall can just vote for Ron Paul...
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8/7/2012 6:34:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:30:37 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
I'm still undecided here.

Why is that? Ron Paul is certainly not getting the GOP nomination (if he miraculously does, I'll endorse Paul like I did in the primaries)
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8/7/2012 6:36:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:34:42 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:30:37 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
I'm still undecided here.

Why is that? Ron Paul is certainly not getting the GOP nomination (if he miraculously does, I'll endorse Paul like I did in the primaries)

If Paul won the nomination I would do anything to ensure he wins the general election.
Ron-Paul
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8/7/2012 6:37:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:34:42 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:30:37 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
I'm still undecided here.

Why is that? Ron Paul is certainly not getting the GOP nomination (if he miraculously does, I'll endorse Paul like I did in the primaries)

I mean voting for Paul vs. Romney.
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8/7/2012 6:38:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:34:13 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
You know, Yall can just vote for Ron Paul...

Writting in Ron Paul does more harm than good
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8/7/2012 6:42:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.

Good luck with that...
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8/7/2012 6:45:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:42:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.

Good luck with that...

I'm not saying I'd prefer a Republican or Libertarian to get elected in that way, I'm just saying you aren't wasting your vote by voting for Gary Johnson.
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8/7/2012 6:46:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:45:07 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:42:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.

Good luck with that...

I'm not saying I'd prefer a Republican or Libertarian to get elected in that way, I'm just saying you aren't wasting your vote by voting for Gary Johnson.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're doing more than wasting your vote, you are helping Obama get elected if you're a conservative.

But you're right. It only matters in swing states.
Sapere Aude!
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8/7/2012 6:49:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:46:53 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:45:07 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:42:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.

Good luck with that...

I'm not saying I'd prefer a Republican or Libertarian to get elected in that way, I'm just saying you aren't wasting your vote by voting for Gary Johnson.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're doing more than wasting your vote, you are helping Obama get elected if you're a conservative.

But you're right. It only matters in swing states.

Either way, a Libertarian endorsing Romney or Obama is akin to a Nazi endorsing Hitler to prevent a black person to win when the Nazi has its own candidate.
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8/7/2012 6:50:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:49:35 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:46:53 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:45:07 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:42:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.

Good luck with that...

I'm not saying I'd prefer a Republican or Libertarian to get elected in that way, I'm just saying you aren't wasting your vote by voting for Gary Johnson.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're doing more than wasting your vote, you are helping Obama get elected if you're a conservative.

But you're right. It only matters in swing states.

Either way, a Libertarian endorsing Romney or Obama is akin to a communist endorsing Hitler to prevent a black person to win when the Nazi has its own candidate.

Fix'd. That did not come out right
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"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
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8/7/2012 6:50:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:50:05 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:49:35 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:46:53 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:45:07 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:42:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.

Good luck with that...

I'm not saying I'd prefer a Republican or Libertarian to get elected in that way, I'm just saying you aren't wasting your vote by voting for Gary Johnson.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're doing more than wasting your vote, you are helping Obama get elected if you're a conservative.

But you're right. It only matters in swing states.

Either way, a Libertarian endorsing Romney or Obama is akin to a nazi endorsing Stalin to prevent a black Jew person to win when the Nazi has its own candidate.

Fix'd. That did not come out right

Gah, where is the edit?
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8/7/2012 6:52:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:50:05 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:49:35 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:46:53 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:45:07 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:42:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.

Good luck with that...

I'm not saying I'd prefer a Republican or Libertarian to get elected in that way, I'm just saying you aren't wasting your vote by voting for Gary Johnson.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're doing more than wasting your vote, you are helping Obama get elected if you're a conservative.

But you're right. It only matters in swing states.

Either way, a Libertarian endorsing Romney or Obama is akin to a communist endorsing Hitler to prevent a black person to win when the Nazi has its own candidate.

Fix'd. That did not come out right

Oh, okay. I was gonna say: I'm pretty sure a Nazi would endorse Hitler regardless. :/
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8/7/2012 6:53:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:52:10 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:50:05 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:49:35 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:46:53 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:45:07 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:42:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:28:23 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:25:37 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
You conservatives voting for him realize a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama...right?

Also, if Johnson wins enough electoral votes he'll make it so no one can get 270, and then the House of Representatives gets to pick the president. Guess who has the majority in the House.

Good luck with that...

I'm not saying I'd prefer a Republican or Libertarian to get elected in that way, I'm just saying you aren't wasting your vote by voting for Gary Johnson.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're doing more than wasting your vote, you are helping Obama get elected if you're a conservative.

But you're right. It only matters in swing states.

Either way, a Libertarian endorsing Romney or Obama is akin to a communist endorsing Hitler to prevent a black person to win when the Nazi has its own candidate.

Fix'd. That did not come out right

Oh, okay. I was gonna say: I'm pretty sure a Nazi would endorse Hitler regardless. :/

LOL! Yup.
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8/7/2012 6:53:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
From a libertarian perspective, if you value economic issues more than social ones this election, it is better to have Romney in office than Obama. Johnson won't win either way. But if conservatives leaning towards Romney vote for Johnson, the end effect if Romney getting fewer votes while Obama gets the same number, helping Obama immensely.

So a vote for Romney is more effective than a vote for Gary.
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8/7/2012 6:55:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:38:09 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:34:13 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
You know, Yall can just vote for Ron Paul...

Writting in Johnson does more harm than good

The same exact logic from your OP can be used for Ron Paul. You realize that he is still running right?
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8/7/2012 6:55:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:53:54 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
From a libertarian perspective, if you value economic issues more than social ones this election, it is better to have Romney in office than Obama. Johnson won't win either way. But if conservatives leaning towards Romney vote for Johnson, the end effect if Romney getting fewer votes while Obama gets the same number, helping Obama immensely.

So a vote for Romney is more effective than a vote for Gary.

Why is it better to vote for Romney?
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8/7/2012 6:57:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:55:56 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:53:54 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
From a libertarian perspective, if you value economic issues more than social ones this election, it is better to have Romney in office than Obama. Johnson won't win either way. But if conservatives leaning towards Romney vote for Johnson, the end effect if Romney getting fewer votes while Obama gets the same number, helping Obama immensely.

So a vote for Romney is more effective than a vote for Gary.

Why is it better to vote for Romney?

I just explained that. You would rather have Romney in office than Obama. Voting for johnson helps Obama win.
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8/7/2012 7:00:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/7/2012 6:57:39 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:55:56 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 8/7/2012 6:53:54 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
From a libertarian perspective, if you value economic issues more than social ones this election, it is better to have Romney in office than Obama. Johnson won't win either way. But if conservatives leaning towards Romney vote for Johnson, the end effect if Romney getting fewer votes while Obama gets the same number, helping Obama immensely.

So a vote for Romney is more effective than a vote for Gary.

Why is it better to vote for Romney?

I just explained that. You would rather have Romney in office than Obama. Voting for johnson helps Obama win.

I know that Johnson is not going to win :( but his record is better http://www.garyjohnson2012.com... as is his plan for the economy http://www.garyjohnson2012.com... under Romney, the economy is going nowhere. Same with Obama. SO it iwll be literally like voting for Obamney.

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