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mauricio2
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8/11/2012 1:23:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
A lot of conservatives on here are straight up stubborn about Obama and super against him. but he has done some good for our mighty country so I kinda want to see if any conservatives here are actually going to be honest and give there opinions on what good he has done.
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8/11/2012 1:24:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
What is this good you speak of?
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8/11/2012 1:29:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Ok.

Well, he ordered the killing of Bin Laden. Ended the Iraq war. Knows how to give a good speech. Inspired a lot of people. Broke a racial barrier. Is, ultimately, a good man who's ultimate failing is his extreme ideology.

That's all I can think of at the top of my head/
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8/11/2012 1:39:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 1:23:29 PM, mauricio2 wrote:
A lot of conservatives on here are straight up stubborn about Obama and super against him. but he has done some good for our mighty country so I kinda want to see if any conservatives here are actually going to be honest and give there opinions on what good he has done.

I'm probably the most liberal republican on here, and probably the only one who's willing to admit that Obama's not a bad guy. I like him, both as a person and as a president. I just happen to like Romney more....
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8/11/2012 8:21:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 1:29:47 PM, thett3 wrote:
Ok.

Well, he ordered the killing of Bin Laden.

Ooh, that was hard! Anyone could've done that!

Ended the Iraq war.

Good, but not worth a reelection.

Knows how to give a good speech.

They have classes for that. And again, not worth reelection

Inspired a lot of people.

So? Hitler inspired a lot of people too.

Broke a racial barrier.

So he became the first black president, so he now deserves to be reelected?

Is, ultimately, a good man who's ultimate failing is his extreme ideology.

Extreme is quite the understatement, but I won't comment on him being a good person. I have never met the guy.


That's all I can think of at the top of my head/

Not much good to say about him, I guess. I don't see one reason in your list that makes me think of him as a good president. And no, I'm not an extreme right winger. I simply do not see one good thing he has done.
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8/11/2012 8:23:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 1:30:53 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
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Bwahaha! Those are such nonsensical accomplishments that anybody as President could do them. I'd prefer a President actually help fix an economy instead of get us into an even deeper short and long term fiscal hole.
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8/11/2012 8:25:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 8:21:55 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 8/11/2012 1:29:47 PM, thett3 wrote:
Ok.

Well, he ordered the killing of Bin Laden.

Ooh, that was hard! Anyone could've done that!

Ended the Iraq war.

Good, but not worth a reelection.

Knows how to give a good speech.

They have classes for that. And again, not worth reelection

Inspired a lot of people.

So? Hitler inspired a lot of people too.

Broke a racial barrier.

So he became the first black president, so he now deserves to be reelected?

Is, ultimately, a good man who's ultimate failing is his extreme ideology.

Extreme is quite the understatement, but I won't comment on him being a good person. I have never met the guy.


That's all I can think of at the top of my head/

Not much good to say about him, I guess. I don't see one reason in your list that makes me think of him as a good president. And no, I'm not an extreme right winger. I simply do not see one good thing he has done.

I don't see him as a good president...those are just some of the good things he has done/is. I know, not much. That's why I dont support him one bit.
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8/11/2012 8:29:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 1:23:29 PM, mauricio2 wrote:
A lot of conservatives on here are straight up stubborn about Obama and super against him. but he has done some good for our mighty country so I kinda want to see if any conservatives here are actually going to be honest and give there opinions on what good he has done.

How about a progressive be honest about the awful job Obama has done instead of stubbornly, and immaturely blaming bush or claiming, "bush did it too".

Maybe it's just me but "bush did it too" is not a good defense for someone's who's campaign slogan was "change". If I had a dime for every time I heard "Bush did it too", I would be rich.
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8/11/2012 8:33:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 8:29:34 PM, DanT wrote:
At 8/11/2012 1:23:29 PM, mauricio2 wrote:
A lot of conservatives on here are straight up stubborn about Obama and super against him. but he has done some good for our mighty country so I kinda want to see if any conservatives here are actually going to be honest and give there opinions on what good he has done.

How about a progressive be honest about the awful job Obama has done instead of stubbornly, and immaturely blaming bush or claiming, "bush did it too".

Maybe it's just me but "bush did it too" is not a good defense for someone's who's campaign slogan was "change". If I had a dime for every time I heard "Bush did it too", I would be rich.

Also, as much as I loathe the Bush collectivist administration; I must admit the Bush administration was better than the Obama administration. I would not want to go back to the Bush administration, but I would prefer it over the current administration.
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8/11/2012 8:33:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 8:33:22 PM, DanT wrote:
At 8/11/2012 8:29:34 PM, DanT wrote:
At 8/11/2012 1:23:29 PM, mauricio2 wrote:
A lot of conservatives on here are straight up stubborn about Obama and super against him. but he has done some good for our mighty country so I kinda want to see if any conservatives here are actually going to be honest and give there opinions on what good he has done.

How about a progressive be honest about the awful job Obama has done instead of stubbornly, and immaturely blaming bush or claiming, "bush did it too".

Maybe it's just me but "bush did it too" is not a good defense for someone's who's campaign slogan was "change". If I had a dime for every time I heard "Bush did it too", I would be rich.

Also, as much as I loathe the collectivist Bush administration; I must admit the Bush administration was better than the Obama administration. I would not want to go back to the Bush administration, but I would prefer it over the current administration.

typo fixed
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8/11/2012 8:37:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
this is what happens when conservatives try to be nice...... the exact opposite happens
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8/11/2012 8:40:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 8:25:07 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 8/11/2012 8:21:55 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 8/11/2012 1:29:47 PM, thett3 wrote:
Ok.

Well, he ordered the killing of Bin Laden.

Ooh, that was hard! Anyone could've done that!

Ended the Iraq war.

Good, but not worth a reelection.

Knows how to give a good speech.

They have classes for that. And again, not worth reelection

Inspired a lot of people.

So? Hitler inspired a lot of people too.

Broke a racial barrier.

So he became the first black president, so he now deserves to be reelected?

Is, ultimately, a good man who's ultimate failing is his extreme ideology.

Extreme is quite the understatement, but I won't comment on him being a good person. I have never met the guy.


That's all I can think of at the top of my head/

Not much good to say about him, I guess. I don't see one reason in your list that makes me think of him as a good president. And no, I'm not an extreme right winger. I simply do not see one good thing he has done.

I don't see him as a good president...those are just some of the good things he has done/is. I know, not much. That's why I dont support him one bit.

I assumed you didn't, but I couldn't resist. XD
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8/11/2012 11:03:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 8:37:44 PM, imabench wrote:
this is what happens when conservatives try to be nice...... the exact opposite happens

Pot called kettle what now?
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8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.
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8/11/2012 11:45:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

Not to mention Progressives hanging and burning Bush dolls. Imagine if a Republican hung or burned a doll that looked like Obama.
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8/12/2012 12:20:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 11:45:29 PM, DanT wrote:
At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

Not to mention Progressives hanging and burning Bush dolls. Imagine if a Republican hung or burned a doll that looked like Obama.

was unaware of the bush doll burnings.
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8/12/2012 12:22:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

When have I or any other decent Democrat on here gone around saying Kill Bush?
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8/12/2012 12:22:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 12:20:11 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/11/2012 11:45:29 PM, DanT wrote:
At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

Not to mention Progressives hanging and burning Bush dolls. Imagine if a Republican hung or burned a doll that looked like Obama.

was unaware of the bush doll burnings.

when the hell did that happen?
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8/12/2012 2:12:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/11/2012 8:21:55 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 8/11/2012 1:29:47 PM, thett3 wrote:
Ok.

Well, he ordered the killing of Bin Laden.

Ooh, that was hard! Anyone could've done that!

Ended the Iraq war.

Good, but not worth a reelection.

Knows how to give a good speech.

They have classes for that. And again, not worth reelection

Inspired a lot of people.

So? Hitler inspired a lot of people too.

Broke a racial barrier.

So he became the first black president, so he now deserves to be reelected?

Is, ultimately, a good man who's ultimate failing is his extreme ideology.

Extreme is quite the understatement, but I won't comment on him being a good person. I have never met the guy.


That's all I can think of at the top of my head/

Not much good to say about him, I guess. I don't see one reason in your list that makes me think of him as a good president. And no, I'm not an extreme right winger. I simply do not see one good thing he has done.

I don't like the way that those who favor Romney just smooth over Obama's foreign policy accomplishments. The election's about the economy, so the integrity returns on conceding his successes in that sphere far outweigh any partisan cost. And how it's just assumed that Romney will be as good at it, seemingly only because he's a member of the GOP.
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8/12/2012 9:24:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 12:22:18 AM, imabench wrote:
At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

When have I or any other decent Democrat on here gone around saying Kill Bush?

Bush is irrelevant now so you won't hear many people stating "kill bush". But there were many protesters that had kill bush signs when he was in office. It's not hard to find these pictures:

http://3.polizeros.com...

http://michellemalkin.com...
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8/12/2012 9:32:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 12:20:11 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/11/2012 11:45:29 PM, DanT wrote:
At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

Not to mention Progressives hanging and burning Bush dolls. Imagine if a Republican hung or burned a doll that looked like Obama.

was unaware of the bush doll burnings.

http://www.zombietime.com...
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8/12/2012 9:35:47 AM
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At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

That was predominant on both sides of the aisle. That's why he left office with about 20% approval. But, no, it's a liberal thing because they're such hypocrites right?
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8/12/2012 9:38:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 9:35:47 AM, 000ike wrote:
At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

That was predominant on both sides of the aisle. That's why he left office with about 20% approval. But, no, it's a liberal thing because they're such hypocrites right?

Plenty of liberals that hate Obama too. However, a conservative is more likely to hate obama and a liberal is more likely to hate Bush.

And people shouldn't complain about a president If his or her approval ratings are high, but should complain if his or her approvals are low?
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8/12/2012 7:39:05 PM
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At 8/12/2012 9:38:46 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/12/2012 9:35:47 AM, 000ike wrote:
At 8/11/2012 11:24:19 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Interesting how liberals complain about conservatives complaining about a president, when liberals were doing the exact same thing to Bush. Hell the whole "kill bush" and I hate bush was a huge fad. There were Bush hating pins everywhere.

That was predominant on both sides of the aisle. That's why he left office with about 20% approval. But, no, it's a liberal thing because they're such hypocrites right?

Plenty of liberals that hate Obama too.

^ true

However, a conservative is more likely to hate obama and a liberal is more likely to hate Bush.

^ also true

And people shouldn't complain about a president If his or her approval ratings are high, but should complain if his or her approvals are low?

well approval ratings are probably correlated with how many people protest the president
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8/12/2012 7:49:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
What good do you speak of?
As a general rule, you'll find that, when a conservative is talking about policy, history, economics, or something serious, liberals are nowhere to be found. But, as soon as a conservative mentions Obama's birthplace or personal life, liberals are everywhere, only to dissappear again when evidence enters the discussion.