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DanT
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8/12/2012 10:55:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Does anyone else find it hysterical that Obama's campaign site is attacking Paul Ryan's economic policy, when Paul Ryan is an economist, and Berry is a lawyer?

That's like a fireman telling a surgeon how to preform a triple bypass.
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8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...
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8/12/2012 11:09:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 10:55:59 AM, DanT wrote:
Does anyone else find it hysterical that Obama's campaign site is attacking Paul Ryan's economic policy, when Paul Ryan is an economist, and Berry is a lawyer?

That's like a fireman telling a surgeon how to preform a triple bypass.

Well some of his proposed budgets have been criticized by Republicans and Democrats alike for lacking concrete numbers in key details. His second budget was seen by some as simply too unrealistic, and others by not drastic enough, so I could see how Obama's team would go try to criticize Ryan for being an economist and proposing budgets that have noticeable holes in them
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8/12/2012 11:10:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

^ that too
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8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.
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8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...
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8/12/2012 11:15:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

actually the expanded quote is;

"Prior to founding the Center, Greenstein was Administrator of the Food and Nutrition Service at the U.S. Department of Agriculture under President Carter, where he directed the agency that operates the federal food assistance programs, such as the food stamp and school lunch programs, and helped design the landmark Food Stamp Act of 1977, generally regarded as the Carter Administration's principal anti-poverty achievement. He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

So basically he was part of every democratic administration since carter
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8/12/2012 11:19:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

When was the last time the CBO got any of their estimates right?

Also his article was on the CBO, so you are just providing the same source, with the middleman cut out.

You can always expect the government (CBO) to want to increase spending, and taxation. If Walmart said that increasing Walmart sales would end the recession, would you double your shopping at walmart?
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8/12/2012 11:21:10 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

wnope dont waste your time trying to find a good source for DanT, he hates all sources that arent his
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8/12/2012 11:26:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

Until 1929 the Federal Government's spending was just 3% of GDP, and we never had a problem with producing human capital for our industries-which is the desired result of education at the end of the day. Overall state and local government spending amounted to 9% of GDP, which was mostly spent on roads and schools.

I honestly don't see the problem with "destroying" all government functions outside of those three categories, and would actually like to see government get out of health care entirely. I want to the federal government to shrink to the point where it is inconsequential in the lives of the average citizen, and I want responsibilities to return to the state and local governments.

If you don't like your local government you can move to another town or city, and if you don't like your state government you can move to another state; on the other hand, if you don't like your federal government you have to move to an entirely different country.
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8/12/2012 11:26:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:21:10 AM, imabench wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

wnope dont waste your time trying to find a good source for DanT, he hates all sources that arent his

No, I just hate biased sources. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is biased when it comes to evaluating the policies of Congress. And someone who was appointed by every Democratic President since Carter would agree with Berry, and be biased against Republicans.

Also don't quote Blogs, because they are just hacks with a computer; they don't know what they are talking about. Owning a computer does not make one an expert on every subject under the sun. Also don't trust FOX News, CNN, or MSNBC, because they are biased.

Anyone who has ever taken a propaganda class would know not to trust these sources.
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8/12/2012 11:27:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:19:18 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

When was the last time the CBO got any of their estimates right?

Also his article was on the CBO, so you are just providing the same source, with the middleman cut out.

You can always expect the government (CBO) to want to increase spending, and taxation. If Walmart said that increasing Walmart sales would end the recession, would you double your shopping at walmart?

Wow, no love for the CBO? It was so popular when it was saying how much healthcare would add to the deficit.

The "Path to Prosperity" document cites the CBO as "non-partisan" when they talk about Obama's deficit. Over half of his attacks on Obama are using CBO citations.
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8/12/2012 11:28:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:27:55 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:19:18 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

When was the last time the CBO got any of their estimates right?

Also his article was on the CBO, so you are just providing the same source, with the middleman cut out.

You can always expect the government (CBO) to want to increase spending, and taxation. If Walmart said that increasing Walmart sales would end the recession, would you double your shopping at walmart?

Wow, no love for the CBO? It was so popular when it was saying how much healthcare would add to the deficit.

The "Path to Prosperity" document cites the CBO as "non-partisan" when they talk about Obama's deficit. Over half of his attacks on Obama are using CBO citations.

By I was not quoting the CBO than either.
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8/12/2012 11:28:58 AM
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No, I just hate biased sources. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is biased when it comes to evaluating the policies of Congress. And someone who was appointed by every Democratic President since Carter would agree with Berry, and be biased against Republicans.

Also don't quote Blogs, because they are just hacks with a computer; they don't know what they are talking about. Owning a computer does not make one an expert on every subject under the sun. Also don't trust FOX News, CNN, or MSNBC, because they are biased.

Anyone can produce a set of statistics or study to support their point or cause. When you present that set of statistics or study, you cannot whine and complain when someone actually reads the article and then goes further to do research on who wrote the article or provided the statistics.
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8/12/2012 11:29:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:28:42 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:27:55 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:19:18 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

When was the last time the CBO got any of their estimates right?

Also his article was on the CBO, so you are just providing the same source, with the middleman cut out.

You can always expect the government (CBO) to want to increase spending, and taxation. If Walmart said that increasing Walmart sales would end the recession, would you double your shopping at walmart?

Wow, no love for the CBO? It was so popular when it was saying how much healthcare would add to the deficit.

The "Path to Prosperity" document cites the CBO as "non-partisan" when they talk about Obama's deficit. Over half of his attacks on Obama are using CBO citations.

But I was not quoting the CBO than either.

typo fix
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8/12/2012 11:31:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:28:42 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:27:55 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:19:18 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

When was the last time the CBO got any of their estimates right?

Also his article was on the CBO, so you are just providing the same source, with the middleman cut out.

You can always expect the government (CBO) to want to increase spending, and taxation. If Walmart said that increasing Walmart sales would end the recession, would you double your shopping at walmart?

Wow, no love for the CBO? It was so popular when it was saying how much healthcare would add to the deficit.

The "Path to Prosperity" document cites the CBO as "non-partisan" when they talk about Obama's deficit. Over half of his attacks on Obama are using CBO citations.

By I was not quoting the CBO than either.

You said the website I showed was biased. The CBO numbers are identical to the website. Therefore, unless you reject the CBO, political ideology of the writer is not relevant to the point.
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8/12/2012 11:31:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:28:58 AM, MrBrooks wrote:
No, I just hate biased sources. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is biased when it comes to evaluating the policies of Congress. And someone who was appointed by every Democratic President since Carter would agree with Berry, and be biased against Republicans.

Also don't quote Blogs, because they are just hacks with a computer; they don't know what they are talking about. Owning a computer does not make one an expert on every subject under the sun. Also don't trust FOX News, CNN, or MSNBC, because they are biased.

Anyone can produce a set of statistics or study to support their point or cause. When you present that set of statistics or study, you cannot whine and complain when someone actually reads the article and then goes further to do research on who wrote the article or provided the statistics.

You are replying the the wrong post.
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8/12/2012 11:31:40 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 10:55:59 AM, DanT wrote:
Does anyone else find it hysterical that Obama's campaign site is attacking Paul Ryan's economic policy, when Paul Ryan is an economist, and Berry is a lawyer?

That's like a fireman telling a surgeon how to preform a triple bypass.

Paul Ryan majored in economics in college with a BA. He isn't an economist.

Funny that that you would would call out Ben Bernake and Paul Krugman, two people who have pHDs in economics from elite universities. Oh and Paul Krugman also has a noble prize. But I'm sure that wouldn't be good enough evidence for you to shoot down his proposed budget.
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8/12/2012 11:32:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:31:06 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:28:42 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:27:55 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:19:18 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

When was the last time the CBO got any of their estimates right?

Also his article was on the CBO, so you are just providing the same source, with the middleman cut out.

You can always expect the government (CBO) to want to increase spending, and taxation. If Walmart said that increasing Walmart sales would end the recession, would you double your shopping at walmart?

Wow, no love for the CBO? It was so popular when it was saying how much healthcare would add to the deficit.

The "Path to Prosperity" document cites the CBO as "non-partisan" when they talk about Obama's deficit. Over half of his attacks on Obama are using CBO citations.

By I was not quoting the CBO than either.

You said the website I showed was biased. The CBO numbers are identical to the website. Therefore, unless you reject the CBO, political ideology of the writer is not relevant to the point.

I just said I rejected the CBO.... Are you illiterate or just plain stupid?
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8/12/2012 11:33:35 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:32:44 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:31:06 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:28:42 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:27:55 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:19:18 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:14:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:12:38 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:05:36 AM, Wnope wrote:
How could he possibly attack the Ryan plan? Point to the bit which will destroy all government functions outside of social security, healthcare, and the military? Mention that while he devastates any money for education, he RAISES the amount of money that goes to the military? Cutting Medicaid by 75%?

Nah, Obama can't attack Ryan, he's too stoopid.

http://www.cbpp.org...

According to the Bio of that article's author, Robert Greenstein;
"He was appointed by President Clinton in 1994 to serve on the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform and headed the federal budget policy component of the transition team for President Obama. "

Something tells me he is not the most reliable source on the matter.

Would you say the same for the CBO's identical numbers?

http://www.cbo.gov...

When was the last time the CBO got any of their estimates right?

Also his article was on the CBO, so you are just providing the same source, with the middleman cut out.

You can always expect the government (CBO) to want to increase spending, and taxation. If Walmart said that increasing Walmart sales would end the recession, would you double your shopping at walmart?

Wow, no love for the CBO? It was so popular when it was saying how much healthcare would add to the deficit.

The "Path to Prosperity" document cites the CBO as "non-partisan" when they talk about Obama's deficit. Over half of his attacks on Obama are using CBO citations.

By I was not quoting the CBO than either.

You said the website I showed was biased. The CBO numbers are identical to the website. Therefore, unless you reject the CBO, political ideology of the writer is not relevant to the point.

I just said I rejected the CBO.... Are you illiterate or just plain stupid?

I misinterpretted "By I was not quoting the CBO than either."
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8/12/2012 11:36:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:31:40 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/12/2012 10:55:59 AM, DanT wrote:
Does anyone else find it hysterical that Obama's campaign site is attacking Paul Ryan's economic policy, when Paul Ryan is an economist, and Berry is a lawyer?

That's like a fireman telling a surgeon how to preform a triple bypass.

Paul Ryan majored in economics in college with a BA. He isn't an economist.

Yes it does.
Funny that that you would would call out Ben Bernake and Paul Krugman, two people who have pHDs in economics from elite universities. Oh and Paul Krugman also has a noble prize. But I'm sure that wouldn't be good enough evidence for you to shoot down his proposed budget.

I didn't call them out, I called out a series of institutions known to be bias. Much different than calling out an individual.
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8/12/2012 11:40:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:37:00 AM, Wnope wrote:
Dant, do you reject every part of Path to Prosperity that uses CBO as a citation?

reject =/= questioning the reliability of the source

Just because I don't trust the source, does not mean I don't agree with what is being said. It simply means I wouldn't rely solely on their opinion, because it has no credible support.

One could have 0 sources, and still be right.
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8/12/2012 11:41:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:40:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:37:00 AM, Wnope wrote:
Dant, do you reject every part of Path to Prosperity that uses CBO as a citation?

reject =/= questioning the reliability of the source

Just because I don't trust the source, does not mean I don't agree with what is being said. It simply means I wouldn't rely solely on their opinion, because it has no credible support.

One could have 0 sources, and still be right.

Never watched the documentary so I'm not going to give an opinion on whether I reject it or not. I simply don't trust their source.
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8/12/2012 11:41:19 AM
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At 8/12/2012 11:36:06 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:31:40 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/12/2012 10:55:59 AM, DanT wrote:
Does anyone else find it hysterical that Obama's campaign site is attacking Paul Ryan's economic policy, when Paul Ryan is an economist, and Berry is a lawyer?

That's like a fireman telling a surgeon how to preform a triple bypass.

Paul Ryan majored in economics in college with a BA. He isn't an economist.

Yes it does.

Great argument.

Practicing economists usually work for universities, think tank and the Fed and require a doctorate to get the job. Also, a major =/= career.

Funny that that you would would call out Ben Bernake and Paul Krugman, two people who have pHDs in economics from elite universities. Oh and Paul Krugman also has a noble prize. But I'm sure that wouldn't be good enough evidence for you to shoot down his proposed budget.

I didn't call them out, I called out a series of institutions known to be bias. Much different than calling out an individual.

So you don't think that Paul Ryan might have some kind of special interests as well or part of an institution known to be bias? So why do you reject paul krugman's analysis when he isn't part of the FED and has a doctorate in economics from princeton and a nobel prize, much surprassing paul ryan.
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8/12/2012 11:48:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/12/2012 11:41:19 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:36:06 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:31:40 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/12/2012 10:55:59 AM, DanT wrote:
Does anyone else find it hysterical that Obama's campaign site is attacking Paul Ryan's economic policy, when Paul Ryan is an economist, and Berry is a lawyer?

That's like a fireman telling a surgeon how to preform a triple bypass.

Paul Ryan majored in economics in college with a BA. He isn't an economist.

Yes it does.

Great argument.

Practicing economists usually work for universities, think tank and the Fed and require a doctorate to get the job. Also, a major =/= career.


Funny that that you would would call out Ben Bernake and Paul Krugman, two people who have pHDs in economics from elite universities. Oh and Paul Krugman also has a noble prize. But I'm sure that wouldn't be good enough evidence for you to shoot down his proposed budget.

I didn't call them out, I called out a series of institutions known to be bias. Much different than calling out an individual.

So you don't think that Paul Ryan might have some kind of special interests as well or part of an institution known to be bias? So why do you reject paul krugman's analysis when he isn't part of the FED and has a doctorate in economics from princeton and a nobel prize, much surprassing paul ryan?

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8/12/2012 11:54:16 AM
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At 8/12/2012 11:41:19 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:36:06 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/12/2012 11:31:40 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 8/12/2012 10:55:59 AM, DanT wrote:
Does anyone else find it hysterical that Obama's campaign site is attacking Paul Ryan's economic policy, when Paul Ryan is an economist, and Berry is a lawyer?

That's like a fireman telling a surgeon how to preform a triple bypass.

Paul Ryan majored in economics in college with a BA. He isn't an economist.

Yes it does.

Great argument.

Practicing economists usually work for universities, think tank and the Fed and require a doctorate to get the job. Also, a major =/= career.

One does not have to be a career economist to be an economist. My grandfather was a scientist, and an engineer even after he left NASA to become the CEO of a small company. He continued to study cosmology, and relativity well after he retired, and he designed his own house, after his retirement.

Funny that that you would would call out Ben Bernake and Paul Krugman, two people who have pHDs in economics from elite universities. Oh and Paul Krugman also has a noble prize. But I'm sure that wouldn't be good enough evidence for you to shoot down his proposed budget.

I didn't call them out, I called out a series of institutions known to be bias. Much different than calling out an individual.

So you don't think that Paul Ryan might have some kind of special interests as well or part of an institution known to be bias?

I did not say that; I said that it's hysterical that a lawyer would question an economist. I did not say that the economist was without bias, only that an economist is more credible than a lawyer.

So why do you reject paul krugman's analysis when he isn't part of the FED and has a doctorate in economics from princeton and a nobel prize, much surprassing paul ryan.

again, I did not say anything about paul krugman. Where did you get that from? Also Berry has a Nobel Prize, as does Al Gore, and Yasser Arafa. The Nobel Prize is meaningless.
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