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yoda878
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8/15/2012 2:41:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Obama or Romney, do you guys really think there are undecided out there?? They are so different in what they are saying, are there really people out there that haven't made up their minds??
If you are undecided speak up because I want to know. Also if you want you can say who you are for, but i mostly want to know if you think there are undecided people. You know what I mean, are there very many of them to even make a difference.
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lewis20
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8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.
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8/15/2012 2:48:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
So the choice is between the status quo and a hopeless third party candidate like Gary Johnson. Which is a harder decision.
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8/15/2012 2:49:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.

... right
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
lewis20
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8/15/2012 2:54:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 2:49:35 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.

... right

By all means, show me where I'm wrong. Give one example of anything of significance Romney will change, He'll fiddle with the tax code and a few regulations and that's all.
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yoda878
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8/15/2012 2:56:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Well I guess what I find important they are way different and those other things mean less since they are not as different on.
I'm looking at things Like education, Healthcare, the deficit, illegal immigration etc. ... I mean do people not know where they stand on these things?
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8/15/2012 2:57:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 2:54:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:49:35 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.

... right

By all means, show me where I'm wrong. Give one example of anything of significance Romney will change, He'll fiddle with the tax code and a few regulations and that's all.

If you don't think either politician will get us off the road to Greece, then all you can do is a third party protest vote.
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8/15/2012 2:58:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Screw them all. Gary Johnson 2012!
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8/15/2012 3:00:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 2:54:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:49:35 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.

... right

By all means, show me where I'm wrong. Give one example of anything of significance Romney will change, He'll fiddle with the tax code and a few regulations and that's all.

Ok, so you're just going to say anything they differ on isn't significant?

For instance, Romney wanting a territorial tax system isn't 'significant'?
Making corporate tax rates competitive with the OECD isn't 'significant'?
What about recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?
National healthcare vs. state healthcare isn't 'significant'?
What about oil? Pipeline, shale oil, etc?
Putting a cap on spending?
Confronting China's unfair trade practices and currency devaluation?
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
yoda878
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8/15/2012 3:00:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 2:58:35 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Screw them all. Gary Johnson 2012!

Stop it!! Just stop! ;)
your going to confuse people especially if they don't know the difference between Obama and Romney!
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lewis20
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8/15/2012 3:01:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 2:56:03 PM, yoda878 wrote:
Well I guess what I find important they are way different and those other things mean less since they are not as different on.
I'm looking at things Like education, Healthcare, the deficit, illegal immigration etc. ... I mean do people not know where they stand on these things?

Where do they differ on education?
Romney pioneered Obamacare.
Romney does not and will not reduce the deficit with his budget.
Immigration isn't a big deal when the economy is this bad.
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8/15/2012 3:03:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 3:01:54 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:56:03 PM, yoda878 wrote:
Well I guess what I find important they are way different and those other things mean less since they are not as different on.
I'm looking at things Like education, Healthcare, the deficit, illegal immigration etc. ... I mean do people not know where they stand on these things?

Where do they differ on education?
Romney pioneered Obamacare.
Romney does not and will not reduce the deficit with his budget.
Immigration isn't a big deal when the economy is this bad.

Ok, so it's not about what Romney says he is going to do, it's about what you know he is going to do, right?
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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8/15/2012 3:09:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 3:01:54 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:56:03 PM, yoda878 wrote:
Well I guess what I find important they are way different and those other things mean less since they are not as different on.
I'm looking at things Like education, Healthcare, the deficit, illegal immigration etc. ... I mean do people not know where they stand on these things?

Where do they differ on education?

First I have to say really????? The voucher program also giving education back to the states...
Romney pioneered Obamacare.

For a state not for the nation.

Romney does not and will not reduce the deficit with his budget.
He has been screaming to stop spending.

Immigration isn't a big deal when the economy is this bad.
I didnt say Immigration i said illegal immigration

Are you a troll?
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lewis20
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8/15/2012 3:09:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 3:00:10 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:54:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:49:35 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.

... right

By all means, show me where I'm wrong. Give one example of anything of significance Romney will change, He'll fiddle with the tax code and a few regulations and that's all.

Ok, so you're just going to say anything they differ on isn't significant?

For instance, Romney wanting a territorial tax system isn't 'significant'?
Making corporate tax rates competitive with the OECD isn't 'significant'?
What about recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?
National healthcare vs. state healthcare isn't 'significant'?
What about oil? Pipeline, shale oil, etc?
Putting a cap on spending?
Confronting China's unfair trade practices and currency devaluation?

Yes, I am saying those are all insignificant details that are blown out of proportion to keep the conversation off real, significant problems.
Like war, monetary policy, balancing the budget, fixing the tax code and fixing entitlements.
"If you are a racist I will attack you with the north"- Abraham Lincoln

"Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material" - Leviticus 19 19

"War is a racket" - Smedley Butler
JaxsonRaine
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8/15/2012 3:14:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 3:09:51 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 3:00:10 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:54:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:49:35 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.

... right

By all means, show me where I'm wrong. Give one example of anything of significance Romney will change, He'll fiddle with the tax code and a few regulations and that's all.

Ok, so you're just going to say anything they differ on isn't significant?

For instance, Romney wanting a territorial tax system isn't 'significant'?
Making corporate tax rates competitive with the OECD isn't 'significant'?
What about recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?
National healthcare vs. state healthcare isn't 'significant'?
What about oil? Pipeline, shale oil, etc?
Putting a cap on spending?
Confronting China's unfair trade practices and currency devaluation?

Yes, I am saying those are all insignificant details that are blown out of proportion to keep the conversation off real, significant problems.
Like war, monetary policy, balancing the budget, fixing the tax code and fixing entitlements.

Wait... wait... WAIT!!!

Let me get this straight... a discussion on SPENDING is IRRELEVANT to the topic of balancing the budget?

A discussion on tax rates, deductions, and international TAX SYSTEM is RRLELVANT to FIXING THE TAX CODE?

What are you drinking/smoking/snorting/injecting???
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
JaxsonRaine
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8/15/2012 3:17:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 3:09:51 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 3:00:10 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:54:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:49:35 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.

... right

By all means, show me where I'm wrong. Give one example of anything of significance Romney will change, He'll fiddle with the tax code and a few regulations and that's all.

Ok, so you're just going to say anything they differ on isn't significant?

For instance, Romney wanting a territorial tax system isn't 'significant'?
Making corporate tax rates competitive with the OECD isn't 'significant'?
What about recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?
National healthcare vs. state healthcare isn't 'significant'?
What about oil? Pipeline, shale oil, etc?
Putting a cap on spending?
Confronting China's unfair trade practices and currency devaluation?

Yes, I am saying those are all insignificant details that are blown out of proportion to keep the conversation off real, significant problems.
Like war, monetary policy, balancing the budget, fixing the tax code and fixing entitlements.

I have a theory...

DDO has been undergoing some kinds of changes recently... the total increase in unbelievable posting has been dramatic, EVER SINCE AIRMAX has come into office.!!!

OMG< I have to call Alex Jones.
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
TheBossToss
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8/15/2012 3:32:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 3:09:51 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 3:00:10 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:54:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:49:35 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 8/15/2012 2:46:42 PM, lewis20 wrote:
They are no different in any way of significance. That being, monetary policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and any other policy that matters.

... right

By all means, show me where I'm wrong. Give one example of anything of significance Romney will change, He'll fiddle with the tax code and a few regulations and that's all.

Ok, so you're just going to say anything they differ on isn't significant?

For instance, Romney wanting a territorial tax system isn't 'significant'?
Making corporate tax rates competitive with the OECD isn't 'significant'?
What about recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?
National healthcare vs. state healthcare isn't 'significant'?
What about oil? Pipeline, shale oil, etc?
Putting a cap on spending?
Confronting China's unfair trade practices and currency devaluation?

Yes, I am saying those are all insignificant details that are blown out of proportion to keep the conversation off real, significant problems.
Like war, monetary policy, balancing the budget, fixing the tax code and fixing entitlements.

Monetary policy - That's the Fed, not the President.
Balancing the budget/fixing the tax code - Congress, not the President (only has veto).
Fixing entitlements - Congress, not the President (only has veto).
War - Under President's power, but he needs a Congressional declaration of war to proceed, and any military action not under the category of "war" has to be approved by Congress.

All of these issues have little to do with what the President can do, but what he would like to see happen/what he will do with a given predetermined bill set on his desk. Even war, the issue most directly under his control, is really not entirely. Congress can cut off funding for any military action whenever they want.
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