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God damned authoritarians

Frederick53
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8/16/2012 3:23:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I know that this is an old video, but I just wanted to see people's thoughts on it.

Also, Frank Zappa is awesome.
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Frederick53
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8/16/2012 3:39:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
tl:dw

Zappa faces off with a neoconservative who wants the government to ban offensive music.
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8/16/2012 3:57:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
"Millions of dollars, Mr Lofton, millions of dollars."
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8/16/2012 4:10:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Conservatism, in the traditional sense, needs everything to be going to hell and a handbasket to legitimate itself.
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Frederick53
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8/16/2012 4:17:11 PM
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Like Zappa said, he was a conservative himself, but obviously he meant in the modern sense of wanting a smaller government. Neoconservatives and conservative libertarians really couldn't be more different when it comes to issues like this.
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8/16/2012 4:55:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/16/2012 4:17:11 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
Like Zappa said, he was a conservative himself, but obviously he meant in the modern sense of wanting a smaller government. Neoconservatives and conservative libertarians really couldn't be more different when it comes to issues like this.

I think it's possibly more that "It came before, so it's best." kind of mentality. Neoconservatives are actually more liberal, domestically, than most other dominant Republican factions. While the conservative libertarians can be redeemed by their constitutionalism. It's really the social conservative, often religious, crowd who drag everyone off the deep end, authoritarian-wise.
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8/16/2012 8:03:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/16/2012 4:17:11 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
Like Zappa said, he was a conservative himself, but obviously he meant in the modern sense of wanting a smaller government. Neoconservatives and conservative libertarians really couldn't be more different when it comes to issues like this.

Dee Snider is a Republican. He defended heavy metal in the senate.
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8/16/2012 9:19:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
7:15

...lol. Well said, Mr. Zappa. Well said.

I would have had to resist the urge to punch Lofton in his fat little authoritarian face.
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DanT
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8/17/2012 12:57:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/17/2012 12:09:14 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
God Damned RIGHT WING Authoritarians (don't count me in any of that).

What about left wing authoritarians?
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8/17/2012 2:36:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/17/2012 12:57:51 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/17/2012 12:09:14 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
God Damned RIGHT WING Authoritarians (don't count me in any of that).

What about left wing authoritarians?

There were less of those in the video.
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