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Tod Akin Media firestorm

000ike
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8/20/2012 7:26:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I obviously don't agree with the things he's said about rape or his stance on abortion, but I can't help but be annoyed at the mindless hellfire the pundits are throwing over it. Yes we understand that he said something stupid. Yes we understand that he said something offensive, but does that really justify you pinning it to the Republican party, pinning it to Paul Ryan for ever being affiliated with the guy, and does that really justify the shameless condemnation you're reigning over him? I don't know if holding non-mainstream philosophies makes me insensitive to this kind of thing, but it just seems brutally unjustified. It reminds me of the idiotic firestorm over Hilary Rosen's comment about Ann Romney. Are people really this emotional about random things, or is morality just being used as a silver bullet in political discourse, feeding off the impulsive reactions provoked by certain words and certain topics?
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8/20/2012 7:40:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I actually agree.

People are WAY too sensitive.

I didn't like the media firestorm over Hilary Rosen or Rush Limbaugh.

I don't like it know.

People shouldn't be screwed because of a gaffe.
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8/20/2012 7:47:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I haven't looked into the firestorm outside Aken's revolting remarks, but at first glance (a quick look at NPR's website) tells me that 000ike is right; this is out of hand and being used as fodder for stupid, stupid political barbs. The article which I clicked on asked

How much will the shockwaves buffet the presidential contest or other races elsewhere?

IT SHOULDN'T DO THAT, OUTSIDE OF AKEN'S RACE. Applying Aken's idiotic comment to other people is inherently insane. What did they do to deserve this? Be associated with him? Obviously, there are some pretty bone-headed people in the US congress (Michelle Bachmann and Nancy Pelosi being two examples) but Bachmann should be criticized for her own stupidity and not the stupidity of her fellow congressman.

I think this reflects how low politics in America has gotten to this point. It's a shame that it has inflamed to this.
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8/20/2012 8:17:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/20/2012 7:40:08 PM, JamesMadison wrote:
I actually agree.

People are WAY too sensitive.

I didn't like the media firestorm over Hilary Rosen or Rush Limbaugh.

I don't like it know.

People shouldn't be screwed because of a gaffe.

Yeah, he should be. It wasn't a "gaffe"; it was a view of his beliefs, and someone who directly attacked the integrity of rape victims like he did should not be selected for office.
royalpaladin
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8/20/2012 8:18:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I did think it is silly to extend his beliefs to the presidential election until I saw that he and Ryan have been teaming up together to gut womyn's rights.
000ike
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8/20/2012 8:22:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/20/2012 8:17:01 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 8/20/2012 7:40:08 PM, JamesMadison wrote:
I actually agree.

People are WAY too sensitive.

I didn't like the media firestorm over Hilary Rosen or Rush Limbaugh.

I don't like it know.

People shouldn't be screwed because of a gaffe.

Yeah, he should be. It wasn't a "gaffe"; it was a view of his beliefs, and someone who directly attacked the integrity of rape victims like he did should not be selected for office.

He was rightfully nominated by the Missouri Republican electorate and has every right to his bid for the senate, as well as the right to express his opinions. You don't have to agree with what he says to realize that it doesn't warrant this uncultured uproar.
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royalpaladin
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8/20/2012 8:25:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/20/2012 8:22:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 8/20/2012 8:17:01 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 8/20/2012 7:40:08 PM, JamesMadison wrote:
I actually agree.

People are WAY too sensitive.

I didn't like the media firestorm over Hilary Rosen or Rush Limbaugh.

I don't like it know.

People shouldn't be screwed because of a gaffe.

Yeah, he should be. It wasn't a "gaffe"; it was a view of his beliefs, and someone who directly attacked the integrity of rape victims like he did should not be selected for office.

He was rightfully nominated by the Missouri Republican electorate and has every right to his bid for the senate, as well as the right to express his opinions. You don't have to agree with what he says to realize that it doesn't warrant this uncultured uproar.

If he has a right to express his uncouth opinions, I have a right to be angry about it, to express my anger (since that is MY opinion), spread the word, and raise people in opposition to him.

I love how people conveniently forget this aspect of rights. You have a right to say whatever you please, but I have a right to respond with my own opinion/argument/speech/belief.
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8/21/2012 12:23:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
What exactly was his comment and why has the GOP overreacted?
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8/21/2012 8:43:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
People shouldn't be screwed because of a gaffe.

Yeah, he should be. It wasn't a "gaffe"; it was a view of his beliefs, and someone who directly attacked the integrity of rape victims like he did should not be selected for office.:

If that were true the human gaffe machine, VP Biden, would have been impeached, stoned, hanged, and quartered for all his gaffes.
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8/22/2012 9:31:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I did research on Akin, and it appears that he is so anti-female that he advocates legalizing criminal rape (which was only outlawed 10 years ago in the U.S. but almost 100 years ago n the U.S.S.R.!)
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8/22/2012 9:32:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 9:31:50 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I did research on Akin, and it appears that he is so anti-female that he advocates legalizing criminal rape (which was only outlawed 10 years ago in the U.S. but almost 100 years ago n the U.S.S.R.!)

Sorry, he advocates legalizing marital rape.
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8/22/2012 9:54:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/21/2012 12:23:08 AM, 1Historygenius wrote:
What exactly was his comment and why has the GOP overreacted?

the GOP overreacted because the last thing they need right now is to look like a party of ignorant idiots like Tod Akin not even 4 months away from a presidential election
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8/22/2012 11:59:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/20/2012 7:40:08 PM, JamesMadison wrote:
I actually agree.

People are WAY too sensitive.

I didn't like the media firestorm over Hilary Rosen or Rush Limbaugh.

I don't like it know.

People shouldn't be screwed because of a gaffe.

I also agree. Remember the media firestorm over the "You didn't build that!" comment (which, if you watch fox news, is still spreading like wildfire)
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8/22/2012 12:07:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 9:32:18 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:31:50 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I did research on Akin, and it appears that he is so anti-female that he advocates legalizing criminal rape (which was only outlawed 10 years ago in the U.S. but almost 100 years ago n the U.S.S.R.!)

Sorry, he advocates legalizing marital rape.

WOW..He's got boulders to say that on T.V.
If he did or not though its way out of line.
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