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imabench
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8/22/2012 8:52:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
A Judge in Texas said that if Obama gets re-elected, the US will fall into a second civil War because Obama will hand over US sovereignty to the UN......

This is why I will never ever voluntarily live in Texas....

http://news.yahoo.com...
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8/22/2012 9:19:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I saw this earlier today. I was relieved to see that nobody was taking him seriously.
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8/22/2012 9:25:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 9:19:28 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
I saw this earlier today. I was relieved to see that nobody was taking him seriously.

+1
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8/22/2012 9:34:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 9:32:28 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
I have my bunker ready with a full stockpile of guns and ammo, canned food, and gold.

can I chill in there? I have one too but im gonna end up using it for when the last twilight movie comes out
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8/22/2012 9:44:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 9:34:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:32:28 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
I have my bunker ready with a full stockpile of guns and ammo, canned food, and gold.

can I chill in there? I have one too but im gonna end up using it for when the last twilight movie comes out

Sure bro, just bring toilet paper. I ran out when I hid in there after Obama won the election in 2008.
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8/22/2012 9:57:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 9:44:35 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:34:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:32:28 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
I have my bunker ready with a full stockpile of guns and ammo, canned food, and gold.

can I chill in there? I have one too but im gonna end up using it for when the last twilight movie comes out

Sure bro, just bring toilet paper. I ran out when I hid in there after Obama won the election in 2008.

Oh yeah, I forgot, Obama already won.

So why aren't we all either dead or selling Americana curios to rich foreign businessmen like in The Man in the High Castle? http://darcymoore.files.wordpress.com...
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8/22/2012 10:00:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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8/22/2012 10:04:03 PM
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I see him letting them have more influence in our policies. But unless he forced their arms treaty nothing will occur that he can control
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8/22/2012 10:11:27 PM
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This is his job: "[He] [c]onducts mental competency hearings and other mental health related duties prescribed by law"

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Got the wrong dude
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8/22/2012 10:40:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 8:52:52 PM, imabench wrote:
A Judge in Texas said that if Obama gets re-elected, the US will fall into a second civil War because Obama will hand over US sovereignty to the UN......

This is why I will never ever voluntarily live in Texas....

http://news.yahoo.com...

Sorry, but dumb people exist everywhere.

It's not a Texan thing.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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8/22/2012 10:41:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 9:44:35 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:34:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:32:28 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
I have my bunker ready with a full stockpile of guns and ammo, canned food, and gold.

can I chill in there? I have one too but im gonna end up using it for when the last twilight movie comes out

Sure bro, just bring toilet paper. I ran out when I hid in there after Obama won the election in 2008.

I may hang out there as well, since I'm essentially a tank with arms.
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8/22/2012 10:54:03 PM
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At 8/22/2012 8:52:52 PM, imabench wrote:
A Judge in Texas said that if Obama gets re-elected, the US will fall into a second civil War because Obama will hand over US sovereignty to the UN......

This is why I will never ever voluntarily live in Texas....

http://news.yahoo.com...

A civil war is on it's way. When you have a large geographical region, and a diverse population, you can't have a centralized governed. The more diverse the population, the more localized the government has to be. Look at the Roman Empire, and the British Empire... Hell look at our the last Civil War!
Hell the English civil wars was even fought over cultural diversity; Anglicanism was suppressing Presbyterianism. Ironically the US civil war was viewed by many as a Holey war between Methodists and Baptists; hence the Battle hymn of the republic, which sings of the end of days.
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8/22/2012 10:58:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 10:54:03 PM, DanT wrote:
At 8/22/2012 8:52:52 PM, imabench wrote:
A Judge in Texas said that if Obama gets re-elected, the US will fall into a second civil War because Obama will hand over US sovereignty to the UN......

This is why I will never ever voluntarily live in Texas....

http://news.yahoo.com...

A civil war is on it's way. When you have a large geographical region, and a diverse population, you can't have a centralized governed. The more diverse the population, the more localized the government has to be. Look at the Roman Empire, and the British Empire... Hell look at our the last Civil War!
Hell the English civil wars was even fought over cultural diversity; Anglicanism was suppressing Presbyterianism. Ironically the US civil war was viewed by many as a Holey war between Methodists and Baptists; hence the Battle hymn of the republic, which sings of the end of days.

Yeah.....no.

See, we have disagreed FAAAAR more I n the past than we have in this decade, and that hasn't lead to civil war. We are also far less prone to just go kill each other over differing views.

Plus, it's VERY hard to make a decent military these days, in such a short time, and nigh impossible to make one that comes close to the US military.
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8/22/2012 11:07:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Plus, it's VERY hard to make a decent military these days, in such a short time, and nigh impossible to make one that comes close to the US military.

Here is what would happen; the military units based in rebellious states would either switch allegience, or have their equipment taken by the state militia.
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8/22/2012 11:30:55 PM
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At 8/22/2012 11:07:31 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
Plus, it's VERY hard to make a decent military these days, in such a short time, and nigh impossible to make one that comes close to the US military.

Here is what would happen; the military units based in rebellious states would either switch allegience, or have their equipment taken by the state militia.

This. Many soldiers would desert in order to protect their families, and others may change allegiance. Many southern soldiers said they fight for their country, but their state comes first. So in reality large armies would desert. And local national guards and such may remain in place under control of the seceded state.

And you don't need a good army—yes, I said it—Hit and run armies are highly effective, and they beat the USSR in Afghanistan, the US in Vietnam, and are doing a good job right now. I read a book on a hypothetical situation, and the US armies quickly dissolved and deserted and the few remaining men moved in with UN forces expecting little fight and got decimated. Ambushed at night in the winter. Thermite bombs put onto tanks and cars. Snipers shooting a few shots and running.

In reality, it would be long and bloody either way.
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8/22/2012 11:35:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 10:58:01 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 8/22/2012 10:54:03 PM, DanT wrote:
At 8/22/2012 8:52:52 PM, imabench wrote:
A Judge in Texas said that if Obama gets re-elected, the US will fall into a second civil War because Obama will hand over US sovereignty to the UN......

This is why I will never ever voluntarily live in Texas....

http://news.yahoo.com...

A civil war is on it's way. When you have a large geographical region, and a diverse population, you can't have a centralized governed. The more diverse the population, the more localized the government has to be. Look at the Roman Empire, and the British Empire... Hell look at our the last Civil War!
Hell the English civil wars was even fought over cultural diversity; Anglicanism was suppressing Presbyterianism. Ironically the US civil war was viewed by many as a Holey war between Methodists and Baptists; hence the Battle hymn of the republic, which sings of the end of days.

Yeah.....no.

See, we have disagreed FAAAAR more I n the past than we have in this decade, and that hasn't lead to civil war. We are also far less prone to just go kill each other over differing views.

Plus, it's VERY hard to make a decent military these days, in such a short time, and nigh impossible to make one that comes close to the US military.

Not what I said. What I said was centralization of government, when the population is diverse, will cause a civil war. Every diverse population, that has ever centralized government authority has crumbled through uprisings. The only way a state can maintain it's rule over the people, is if the people accept it's rule. Our military makes up about 1% of the population. Do you really think that our diverse population can be ruled under 1 central authority, without civil war erupting?

Look at the Roman Empire;
It first split between East and West, because the East Romans were culturally different from the Western Romans. After the split the Western Empire fell due to a pagan uprising.
How about the British Empire?
America rebelled against the British, because we began to establish our own national identity, and opposed being ruled by someone 3,000 miles away. After the war of 1812 Canada broke away from the British because they established their own national identity.

The English civil war started because the Anglicans was suppressing Presbyterians. The American civil war started because the North and South had been divided since the day we were founded; the South had always had their own cultural identity, as has New England. The divide between North and South was escalated by Federal policies favoring the north, and the lack of electoral votes in the south. The North was Methodist, the south was baptist; the north was industrial, the south was agricultural; the north was abolitionist, and the southern economy was dependent on slave labor; the North was urban, the south was rural.
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8/22/2012 11:42:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 11:07:31 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
Plus, it's VERY hard to make a decent military these days, in such a short time, and nigh impossible to make one that comes close to the US military.

Here is what would happen; the military units based in rebellious states would either switch allegience, or have their equipment taken by the state militia.

I think it has more to do with one's native state, rather than where one is stationed. If your family and friends denounce American citizenship, and the Federal government wants to keep them subjugated through military force, do you;
a.) continue to serve that military
or
b.) defect to your home state, in order to help create a defense force for that state?

If a local militia decides they want to kick you off base, and you are not stationed in your home state. You have more reason to fight back, and less reason to defect.
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8/22/2012 11:42:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 11:36:08 PM, Wnope wrote:
Is this "give Republican strategists a heart attack" month or something for the GOP?

+1

The very thought of a there being a violent rebellion in which every hick in town would get the opportunity to use their daddy's shotgun in a non-hunting scenario gives the GOP the issue like the issue of donkeys.
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8/22/2012 11:43:12 PM
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At 8/22/2012 11:42:41 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 8/22/2012 11:36:08 PM, Wnope wrote:
Is this "give Republican strategists a heart attack" month or something for the GOP?

+1

The very thought of there being a violent rebellion in which every hick in town would get the opportunity to use their daddy's shotgun in a non-hunting scenario gives the GOP the issue like the issue of donkeys.

fix'd. Unneeded 'a'.
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8/22/2012 11:44:54 PM
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At 8/22/2012 10:04:03 PM, 16kadams wrote:
I see him letting them have more influence in our policies. But unless he forced their arms treaty nothing will occur that he can control

Uh, yeah, they have influence in our foreign policy; as they, of course, inhabit foreign areas in which we poke our noses in continuously.
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8/22/2012 11:51:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/22/2012 11:47:36 PM, DanT wrote:
I say the US should secede from the UN.

I second this on grounds that UN peacekeepers rape women in poor African villages and many other developing nations.

Until they clean up their act, of course; perhaps amends could be made.
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8/22/2012 11:52:02 PM
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I'll tell you what, if there was ever a civil war I'd side with the faction that New York wasn't in, just for the opportunity to march into my home state and purge it of the people that made it a cesspool in the first place.
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8/23/2012 12:00:32 AM
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At 8/22/2012 11:52:02 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
I'll tell you what, if there was ever a civil war I'd side with the faction that New York wasn't in, just for the opportunity to march into my home state and purge it of the people that made it a cesspool in the first place.

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8/23/2012 12:06:03 AM
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At 8/22/2012 9:57:18 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:44:35 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:34:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/22/2012 9:32:28 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
I have my bunker ready with a full stockpile of guns and ammo, canned food, and gold.

can I chill in there? I have one too but im gonna end up using it for when the last twilight movie comes out

Sure bro, just bring toilet paper. I ran out when I hid in there after Obama won the election in 2008.

Oh yeah, I forgot, Obama already won.

So why aren't we all either dead or selling Americana curios to rich foreign businessmen like in The Man in the High Castle? http://darcymoore.files.wordpress.com...

This was a serious question.
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8/23/2012 12:06:38 AM
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At 8/23/2012 12:00:32 AM, DanT wrote:
At 8/22/2012 11:52:02 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
I'll tell you what, if there was ever a civil war I'd side with the faction that New York wasn't in, just for the opportunity to march into my home state and purge it of the people that made it a cesspool in the first place.

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8/23/2012 9:27:59 AM
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At 8/22/2012 10:40:00 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 8/22/2012 8:52:52 PM, imabench wrote:
A Judge in Texas said that if Obama gets re-elected, the US will fall into a second civil War because Obama will hand over US sovereignty to the UN......

This is why I will never ever voluntarily live in Texas....

http://news.yahoo.com...

Sorry, but dumb people exist everywhere.

It's not a Texan thing.

very, very good point
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