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9/12/2012 5:36:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Introduction to the Free State Project: A New Strategy for Freedom

Our Mission...

The Free State Project is an agreement among 20,000 pro-liberty activists to move to New Hampshire, where they will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property. The success of the Project would likely entail reductions in taxation and regulation, reforms at all levels of government, to expand individual rights and free markets, and a restoration of constitutional federalism, demonstrating the benefits of liberty to the rest of the nation and the world.

New Hampshire, The Free State

Upon reaching 5,000 commitments, the Free State Project conducted a vote to select the destination state from a field of ten candidates. On October 1, 2003 we announced that our participants had chosen New Hampshire as the future Free State. New Hampshire"s small population factored heavily in the selection process. Our research showed that 20,000 activists can heavily influence states, like New Hampshire, with populations of less than 1.5 million and our early movers report that even a few hundred can make a significant difference. With its existing distaste for big government and a welcoming attitude for the Free State Project"s goals, New Hampshire is an attractive destination. Migrating FSP participants will find a state consistently rated the safest and most livable in the United States.

New Hampshire"s State Motto: "Live Free or Die".

Source: [http://freestateproject.org...]

Is anybody (DDO member) interested in this project? Has anybody considered moving here after college? What are your thoughts/expectations?
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9/12/2012 6:05:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I've considered moving after the military, we'll see how things roll.
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9/12/2012 6:59:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 6:05:43 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I've considered moving after the military, we'll see how things roll.

Cool, I'm thinking about getting my MBA (concentration in finance) at the University of New Hampshire in four years. I'd like to run for state representative as well, so that may change. I want to effect positive change for liberty, and NH is the best state for that.
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9/12/2012 7:40:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 6:59:19 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 6:05:43 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I've considered moving after the military, we'll see how things roll.

Cool, I'm thinking about getting my MBA (concentration in finance) at the University of New Hampshire in four years. I'd like to run for state representative as well, so that may change. I want to effect positive change for liberty, and NH is the best state for that.

I live in NH. I go to granite state college, which is branched off from the university of NH. It's part of the same university system, and I sometimes get letters from the university of new Hampshire when there is news regarding both schools.
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9/12/2012 7:41:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 7:40:58 PM, DanT wrote:
At 9/12/2012 6:59:19 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 6:05:43 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I've considered moving after the military, we'll see how things roll.

Cool, I'm thinking about getting my MBA (concentration in finance) at the University of New Hampshire in four years. I'd like to run for state representative as well, so that may change. I want to effect positive change for liberty, and NH is the best state for that.

I live in NH. I go to granite state college, which is branched off from the university of NH. It's part of the same university system, and I sometimes get letters from the university of new Hampshire when there is news regarding both schools.

Also some of my professors are also professors at UNH
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9/12/2012 7:47:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 7:40:58 PM, DanT wrote:

I live in NH. I go to granite state college, which is branched off from the university of NH. It's part of the same university system, and I sometimes get letters from the university of new Hampshire when there is news regarding both schools.

Sweet. Can you answer a few questions for me?

Do you like living in New Hampshire?
What's it like living there (people, weather, opportunities, activities, fun stuff)?
Is UNH a good school?
Does UNH have an Ultimate team, debate team, and Students for Liberty club?
Are you involved with the FSP in any way?
Anything else you think I'd like to know about living there?
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9/12/2012 8:32:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Too cold.
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9/12/2012 8:41:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 8:32:22 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Too cold.

That is not in doubt. The question is "Is it too cold for liberty?"

It's not so bad: http://www.weather.com...
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9/12/2012 8:44:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 8:10:44 PM, Ultra wrote:
Can't say I agree with your politics, but I truly respect the devotion towards a cause. High five.

Thanks, most Libertarians/Anarchists like to talk a lot, but they don't necessarily do anything with it. The Free State Project is an active project in concentrating freedom activists in one state and profoundly changing the size and influence of government. It's already had a positive effect in employment, wages, freedom, and tolerance.
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9/12/2012 9:11:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 7:47:31 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 7:40:58 PM, DanT wrote:

I live in NH. I go to granite state college, which is branched off from the university of NH. It's part of the same university system, and I sometimes get letters from the university of new Hampshire when there is news regarding both schools.

Sweet. Can you answer a few questions for me?

Do you like living in New Hampshire?
Yes
What's it like living there (people,
very friendly. Strangers wave to you on the street. There are not many places to socialize with others; because of this, many kids turn to drugs.
weather,
short summers, long winters. The amount of snow depends on where you live.
opportunities,
May want to further clarify the question. Do you mean job opportunities?
activities, fun stuff)?
Hiking, boating, fishing, shooting ranges, paintball, and so on. There are no clubs, that I know of, and we are pretty rural.
Is UNH a good school?
I think so. They allow you to take some courses online, if you can't make it to campus.
Does UNH have an Ultimate team, debate team, and Students for Liberty club?
IDK because I go to Granite State. Granite State does not have the same activities, and Granite State does not have dorms.
Here is the UNH website. www.unh.edu
Are you involved with the FSP in any way?
No but my family moved here because of it.
Anything else you think I'd like to know about living there?

Yes, it's good for people who like nature; not so much for people who like the city. Our cities are pretty small compared to larger states.

In New Hampshire;

*We have no sales tax, no state income tax.
*we are ranked number 49 in regards to the tax burden. With only 7.3% of income going towards taxes. The only state with less of a Tax burden is Alaska .
*In regards to the State Debt Crisis, we are ranked Number 2 in the Country, and given a 5 star rating, according to Forbes.
*We have very loose gun restrictions
*We have have the lowest crime rate in the union
* We have no seat belt law for adults
*We have no motorcycle helmet law.
*We are not required to buy Insurance
* We have a low rate of uninsured population at 10.4%
* We have a low premature death rate with 5,792 years of potential life lost before age 75 per 100,000 population.
*We have a low percentage of children in poverty at 10.5% of persons under age 18
*We are ranked number 3 in the American Health Ranking by the United Health Foundation
* We have the 4th lowest unemployment rate, right behind South Dakota, Nebraska, and North Dakota.
*We have the highest Median House Hold Income in the union according to the US Census Bureau
*We are ranked number 8 in regards to the environment according to Greenopia

http://www.forbes.com...
http://www.insurancejournal.com...
http://www.americashealthrankings.org...
http://www.bls.gov...
http://www.census.gov...
http://www.legalzoom.com...
http://www.greenopia.com...
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9/12/2012 10:23:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 8:41:38 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 8:32:22 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Too cold.

That is not in doubt. The question is "Is it too cold for liberty?"

It's not so bad: http://www.weather.com...

Why can't you all just move to Flo-rida?
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9/12/2012 10:29:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 10:23:56 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/12/2012 8:41:38 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 8:32:22 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Too cold.

That is not in doubt. The question is "Is it too cold for liberty?"

It's not so bad: http://www.weather.com...

Why can't you all just move to Flo-rida?

Liberty would drown in the sea of taxeating Boomers there.
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9/12/2012 10:30:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 10:23:56 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/12/2012 8:41:38 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 8:32:22 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Too cold.

That is not in doubt. The question is "Is it too cold for liberty?"

It's not so bad: http://www.weather.com...

Why can't you all just move to Flo-rida?

Hated FL... Too hot.
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9/13/2012 3:02:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 10:30:19 PM, DanT wrote:

Hated FL... Too hot.

+bugs, old people, humidity, flat land, and foreigners who haven't given the slightest thought to learning English. I lived there for 18 years.

Cool things: diversity of people, ocean (East Coast), Food, and Music.
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9/13/2012 4:05:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 9:11:03 PM, DanT wrote:
At 9/12/2012 7:47:31 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 7:40:58 PM, DanT wrote:

I live in NH. I go to granite state college, which is branched off from the university of NH. It's part of the same university system, and I sometimes get letters from the university of new Hampshire when there is news regarding both schools.

Sweet. Can you answer a few questions for me?

Do you like living in New Hampshire?
Yes
What's it like living there (people,
very friendly. Strangers wave to you on the street. There are not many places to socialize with others; because of this, many kids turn to drugs.
weather,
short summers, long winters. The amount of snow depends on where you live.
opportunities,
May want to further clarify the question. Do you mean job opportunities?
activities, fun stuff)?
Hiking, boating, fishing, shooting ranges, paintball, and so on. There are no clubs, that I know of, and we are pretty rural.
Is UNH a good school?
I think so. They allow you to take some courses online, if you can't make it to campus.
Does UNH have an Ultimate team, debate team, and Students for Liberty club?
IDK because I go to Granite State. Granite State does not have the same activities, and Granite State does not have dorms.
Here is the UNH website. www.unh.edu
Are you involved with the FSP in any way?
No but my family moved here because of it.
Anything else you think I'd like to know about living there?

Yes, it's good for people who like nature; not so much for people who like the city. Our cities are pretty small compared to larger states.

In New Hampshire;

*We have no sales tax, no state income tax.
*we are ranked number 49 in regards to the tax burden. With only 7.3% of income going towards taxes. The only state with less of a Tax burden is Alaska .
*In regards to the State Debt Crisis, we are ranked Number 2 in the Country, and given a 5 star rating, according to Forbes.
*We have very loose gun restrictions
*We have have the lowest crime rate in the union
* We have no seat belt law for adults
*We have no motorcycle helmet law.
*We are not required to buy Insurance
* We have a low rate of uninsured population at 10.4%
* We have a low premature death rate with 5,792 years of potential life lost before age 75 per 100,000 population.
*We have a low percentage of children in poverty at 10.5% of persons under age 18
*We are ranked number 3 in the American Health Ranking by the United Health Foundation
* We have the 4th lowest unemployment rate, right behind South Dakota, Nebraska, and North Dakota.
*We have the highest Median House Hold Income in the union according to the US Census Bureau
*We are ranked number 8 in regards to the environment according to Greenopia

http://www.forbes.com...
http://www.insurancejournal.com...
http://www.americashealthrankings.org...
http://www.bls.gov...
http://www.census.gov...
http://www.legalzoom.com...
http://www.greenopia.com...

The cold is really the only thing that turns me off. I like snowy coldness for about a month or two, but 6-7 months a year is ridiculous. I like temps between 55-75. I wish our planet was designed by an omnibenevolent God to be that temperature year round in a geographical area, or that we were better evolved to find extreme temps comfortable (like Tardigrades).
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9/13/2012 8:36:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Glad to see someone promoting the project on here.

Also, use Bitcoins and listen to FRN.FM or Free Talk Live.

Freedom Fighters will win in the end... Be a Pheonix and rise from the ashes of the fire that is burning the human civilization.

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9/13/2012 1:11:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 8:41:38 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 8:32:22 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Too cold.

That is not in doubt. The question is "Is it too cold for liberty?"

It's not so bad: http://www.weather.com...

In NH they're just ahead of the global warming curve, warmer temps and rising ocean levels just mean warmer years and more beach front property.
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9/13/2012 1:14:22 PM
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At 9/12/2012 6:59:19 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 6:05:43 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I've considered moving after the military, we'll see how things roll.

Cool, I'm thinking about getting my MBA (concentration in finance) at the University of New Hampshire in four years. I'd like to run for state representative as well<strong/>, so that may change. I want to effect positive change for liberty, and NH is the best state for that.

They pay their state reps next to nothing don't they? I'd have to think the position being less lucrative has to help keep the crooks out.
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9/13/2012 2:47:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/12/2012 5:36:33 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Introduction to the Free State Project: A New Strategy for Freedom

Our Mission...

The Free State Project is an agreement among 20,000 pro-liberty activists to move to New Hampshire, where they will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property. The success of the Project would likely entail reductions in taxation and regulation, reforms at all levels of government, to expand individual rights and free markets, and a restoration of constitutional federalism, demonstrating the benefits of liberty to the rest of the nation and the world.

New Hampshire, The Free State

Upon reaching 5,000 commitments, the Free State Project conducted a vote to select the destination state from a field of ten candidates. On October 1, 2003 we announced that our participants had chosen New Hampshire as the future Free State. New Hampshire"s small population factored heavily in the selection process. Our research showed that 20,000 activists can heavily influence states, like New Hampshire, with populations of less than 1.5 million and our early movers report that even a few hundred can make a significant difference. With its existing distaste for big government and a welcoming attitude for the Free State Project"s goals, New Hampshire is an attractive destination. Migrating FSP participants will find a state consistently rated the safest and most livable in the United States.

New Hampshire"s State Motto: "Live Free or Die".

Source: [http://freestateproject.org...]

Is anybody (DDO member) interested in this project? Has anybody considered moving here after college? What are your thoughts/expectations?

This group has been in the works for a long time. Is the plan to live in close proximity like a commune or is it a looser than that?

Lol, a libertarian commune. An oxymoron if there ever was one.
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9/13/2012 3:21:14 PM
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At 9/13/2012 1:14:22 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 9/12/2012 6:59:19 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/12/2012 6:05:43 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I've considered moving after the military, we'll see how things roll.

Cool, I'm thinking about getting my MBA (concentration in finance) at the University of New Hampshire in four years. I'd like to run for state representative as well, so that may change. I want to effect positive change for liberty, and NH is the best state for that.

They pay their state reps next to nothing don't they? I'd have to think the position being less lucrative has to help keep the crooks out.

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9/13/2012 4:09:21 PM
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At 9/13/2012 2:47:15 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 9/12/2012 5:36:33 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Introduction to the Free State Project: A New Strategy for Freedom

Our Mission...

The Free State Project is an agreement among 20,000 pro-liberty activists to move to New Hampshire, where they will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property. The success of the Project would likely entail reductions in taxation and regulation, reforms at all levels of government, to expand individual rights and free markets, and a restoration of constitutional federalism, demonstrating the benefits of liberty to the rest of the nation and the world.

New Hampshire, The Free State

Upon reaching 5,000 commitments, the Free State Project conducted a vote to select the destination state from a field of ten candidates. On October 1, 2003 we announced that our participants had chosen New Hampshire as the future Free State. New Hampshire"s small population factored heavily in the selection process. Our research showed that 20,000 activists can heavily influence states, like New Hampshire, with populations of less than 1.5 million and our early movers report that even a few hundred can make a significant difference. With its existing distaste for big government and a welcoming attitude for the Free State Project"s goals, New Hampshire is an attractive destination. Migrating FSP participants will find a state consistently rated the safest and most livable in the United States.

New Hampshire"s State Motto: "Live Free or Die".

Source: [http://freestateproject.org...]

Is anybody (DDO member) interested in this project? Has anybody considered moving here after college? What are your thoughts/expectations?

This group has been in the works for a long time. Is the plan to live in close proximity like a commune or is it a looser than that?

Lol, a libertarian commune. An oxymoron if there ever was one.

False, not an oxymoron at all. Even if we were talking about a sort of voluntary socialism here, that wouldn't be conflicting with libertarian values. Libertarianism can basically tolerate anything within the parameters of the non-aggression principle. So it's not an oxymoron for a bunch of liberty minded activists who are fed up with the status quo to live in close proximity to each other and influence the politics of their state toward smaller, less intrusive government.
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9/13/2012 9:11:59 PM
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Is the plan to live in close proximity like a commune or is it a looser than that?
The free state project itself just commits to residing in New Hampshire and voting for libertah.

I think I read of a particular rowdy subgroup in one town.
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9/14/2012 10:27:01 AM
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At 9/13/2012 9:11:59 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
Is the plan to live in close proximity like a commune or is it a looser than that?
The free state project itself just commits to residing in New Hampshire and voting for libertah.

I think I read of a particular rowdy subgroup in one town.

Half of the people who live there are like agorist/anarchists that say, "Let's pretend the system isn't even there." The other half is like, "Let's vote people into office who will cut taxes, government services, pay, etc."
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9/14/2012 12:41:53 PM
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I've thought about it, my friends and family would think I was crazy though if I moved to NH for it.
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9/14/2012 12:47:22 PM
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At 9/14/2012 12:41:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I've thought about it, my friends and family would think I was crazy though if I moved to NH for it.

Standing up for liberty through non-violence isn't crazy, it's admirable. If you want liberty in your lifetime, you have to move to NH. Think about networking with people with whom you are working toward a common goal. Instead of pushing a boulder uphill, you're swimming with the tide at your back. It's an incredible project, and I hope they achieve a stateless society exempt from federal mandates and without state government or local government.
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9/14/2012 1:44:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/14/2012 12:47:22 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 9/14/2012 12:41:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I've thought about it, my friends and family would think I was crazy though if I moved to NH for it.

Standing up for liberty through non-violence isn't crazy, it's admirable. If you want liberty in your lifetime, you have to move to NH. Think about networking with people with whom you are working toward a common goal. Instead of pushing a boulder uphill, you're swimming with the tide at your back. It's an incredible project, and I hope they achieve a stateless society exempt from federal mandates and without state government or local government.

Keep fighting the good fight my friend... You will be way ahead of the game either way. I would move there, but it's too cold. Much easier to find a warmer place with low property taxes to start my transition off the current system. Also, get involved in an economy that is not dependant on federal reserve notes (dollars). Local currency, time banks, bitcoins, etc.