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9/18/2012 6:50:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
they said it was just a temporary sugar-high from convention rhetoric. They said it would die down within a week. They said that Obama's record was so poor that Mitt Romney had it in the bag if he would just keep the conversation on the economy. What a resounding response from voters!

Obama is up 5% NATIONALLY among likely voters.
His approval rating is 51%
He's leading by 8% in the swing state of Virginia
He's leading by 7% in the swing state of Ohio
He's leading by 5% in the swing state of Colorado
42% of Americans say that the economy is getting better (A record high for the last 4 years)
39% of small business owners believe that Obama is more protective of their interests, versus Romney's 32%
37% trust Obama with the economy vs. Romney's 34%
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9/18/2012 6:52:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
"37% trust Obama with the economy vs. Romney's 34%"

It's depressing when you can get support from barely a third of voters and still be considered doing well.
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9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM
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Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.
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9/18/2012 6:55:34 PM
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At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

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9/18/2012 6:56:55 PM
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At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

yeah, just give it a few months, I'm sure it'll die down eventually. :P
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9/18/2012 6:57:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/18/2012 6:56:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

yeah, just give it a few months, I'm sure it'll die down eventually. :P

A month I say. And, A LOT can happen between now and Nov. 6th. A LOT.
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9/18/2012 7:00:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/18/2012 6:57:47 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:56:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

yeah, just give it a few months, I'm sure it'll die down eventually. :P

A month I say. And, A LOT can happen between now and Nov. 6th. A LOT.

Who do you honestly think is more likely to slip? The incumbent or the power hungry obscenely wealthy flipflopping governor who is struggling to bring himself to the center after moving to the far right for the sake of his base, while simultaneously offending several global dignitaries and countries whom have sent angry and disgusted replies?
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9/18/2012 7:02:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/18/2012 7:00:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:57:47 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:56:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

yeah, just give it a few months, I'm sure it'll die down eventually. :P

A month I say. And, A LOT can happen between now and Nov. 6th. A LOT.

Who do you honestly think is more likely to slip? The incumbent or the power hungry obscenely wealthy flipflopping governor who is struggling to bring himself to the center after moving to the far right for the sake of his base, while simultaneously offending several global dignitaries and countries whom have sent angry and disgusted replies?

Haha
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9/18/2012 7:02:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/18/2012 7:00:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:57:47 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:56:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 6:54:59 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Dude.....you sound like friggen MSNBC...and, give it a little while, it will die down. A week is a bit too short.

And, seriously, do you masturbate to this stuff? Cause the way you talk about it, it seems like you do.

yeah, just give it a few months, I'm sure it'll die down eventually. :P

A month I say. And, A LOT can happen between now and Nov. 6th. A LOT.

Who do you honestly think is more likely to slip? The incumbent or the power hungry obscenely wealthy flipflopping governor who is struggling to bring himself to the center after moving to the far right for the sake of his base, while simultaneously offending several global dignitaries and countries whom have sent angry and disgusted replies?

Who do you honestly think is gonna slip? The successful business man, with a almost spotless record, and tons of experience fixing things, over the incumbent in power, who has failed to bump the economy up at all almost, and has yet to prove he is even competent for the job?

See what I did there?
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9/18/2012 7:03:00 PM
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Wasnt the DNC only like a week ago?
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9/18/2012 7:03:49 PM
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At 9/18/2012 7:03:00 PM, imabench wrote:
Wasnt the DNC only like a week ago?

Roughly.
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9/18/2012 7:04:59 PM
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At 9/18/2012 7:03:00 PM, imabench wrote:
Wasnt the DNC only like a week ago?

nope, 2 weeks. It was the 3rd to the 5th I believe
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9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM
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Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.
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9/18/2012 7:07:00 PM
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At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Because he's not gutsy enough to execute the gays?
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9/18/2012 7:07:41 PM
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At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Damn, how do you always manage to predict my part-time jobs?
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9/18/2012 7:21:01 PM
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At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Guess where this is going to end up.....
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9/18/2012 7:22:37 PM
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At 9/18/2012 7:07:00 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Because he's not gutsy enough to execute the gays?

If that's how you elect your presidents, you'd be narrowing your field to Hitler and... just Hitler.
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9/18/2012 7:23:28 PM
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Obama's rapid upsurge in 000ike

Fixed that for you.
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9/18/2012 8:28:51 PM
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At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Execute the gays? No, that's just idiotic... Unconstitutional... Illogical...

WHATS YOUR JUSTIFICATION? Whatever it is, I'm against it.
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9/18/2012 8:40:25 PM
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At 9/18/2012 8:28:51 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Execute the gays? No, that's just idiotic... Unconstitutional... Illogical...

WHATS YOUR JUSTIFICATION? Whatever it is, I'm against it.

lol you can't bring it upon yourself to call it "immoral" like any normally minded person would?
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9/18/2012 8:53:57 PM
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At 9/18/2012 8:40:25 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 8:28:51 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Execute the gays? No, that's just idiotic... Unconstitutional... Illogical...

WHATS YOUR JUSTIFICATION? Whatever it is, I'm against it.

lol you can't bring it upon yourself to call it "immoral" like any normally minded person would?

ike shut the hell up this is a once in a lifetime opportunity! 16kadams could possibly debate on behalf of homosexuals!!!!!!!!
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9/19/2012 5:27:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/18/2012 8:40:25 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 8:28:51 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Execute the gays? No, that's just idiotic... Unconstitutional... Illogical...

WHATS YOUR JUSTIFICATION? Whatever it is, I'm against it.

lol you can't bring it upon yourself to call it "immoral" like any normally minded person would?

You believe in objective morality now? Kewl.
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9/19/2012 6:03:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/19/2012 5:27:00 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/18/2012 8:40:25 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 8:28:51 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Execute the gays? No, that's just idiotic... Unconstitutional... Illogical...

WHATS YOUR JUSTIFICATION? Whatever it is, I'm against it.

lol you can't bring it upon yourself to call it "immoral" like any normally minded person would?

You believe in objective morality now? Kewl.

Where did you get that from?

Moral nihilism or subjectivism may be true, but its normatively inapplicable. In a casual conversation that doesn't necessitate philosophical obscurities like the truth of morality, it would be odd and silly to argue that morality means nothing. It's clearly a necessary delusion, like freewill. Your response is even MORE irrelevant to this context because 16kadams is not a nihilist or a subjectivist, so I would expect de facto objective moral claims from him, so it's telling that in listing what's wrong with executing gays he couldn't mention morality.
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9/19/2012 6:37:29 AM
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At 9/18/2012 7:23:28 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
Obama's rapid upsurge in 000ike

Fixed that for you.

LOL
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9/19/2012 8:26:27 AM
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At 9/19/2012 6:03:01 AM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/19/2012 5:27:00 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/18/2012 8:40:25 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/18/2012 8:28:51 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 9/18/2012 7:06:06 PM, MattDescopa wrote:
Mitt Romney hates gays and would support their execution but he's not gutsy enough to say it which is why I wouldn't vote for him personally.

Execute the gays? No, that's just idiotic... Unconstitutional... Illogical...

WHATS YOUR JUSTIFICATION? Whatever it is, I'm against it.

lol you can't bring it upon yourself to call it "immoral" like any normally minded person would?

You believe in objective morality now? Kewl.

Where did you get that from?

Moral nihilism or subjectivism may be true, but its normatively inapplicable. In a casual conversation that doesn't necessitate philosophical obscurities like the truth of morality, it would be odd and silly to argue that morality means nothing. It's clearly a necessary delusion, like freewill. Your response is even MORE irrelevant to this context because 16kadams is not a nihilist or a subjectivist, so I would expect de facto objective moral claims from him, so it's telling that in listing what's wrong with executing gays he couldn't mention morality.

You can think it's weird for him and I understand that people usually aren't consistent with their nihilism but you made it a huge point to call him out for not thinking that executing gays is immoral. But obviously you don't think that's so so why care? In fact he was right. Executing gays is idiotic, unconstitutional, and illogical. Those seem like more than enough reason to be against such a practice (especially if you're a nihilist) so it seems weird that a nihilist would be the one trying to bring morality into the picture.
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9/19/2012 8:30:55 AM
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I have always followed the Iowa Electronic Markets, which is a real market where one can buy shares in a position on who is going to win. I has been extremely accurate in predictions, but I'm not certain at what timing. Here is the current chart showing Obama with a decent lead currently.

Romney seems like he alienates a good chunk of his supporters by lumping them all in as dead beats. Half of the 47% who he calls out in his latest speech have to be supporters of him, because the Democratic base has a huge constituency of well educated successful middle class who are in the 53% of tax payers. He almost deserves to loose just for not recognizing that.

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9/19/2012 9:25:14 AM
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At 9/18/2012 6:50:27 PM, 000ike wrote:
they said it was just a temporary sugar-high from convention rhetoric. They said it would die down within a week. They said that Obama's record was so poor that Mitt Romney had it in the bag if he would just keep the conversation on the economy. What a resounding response from voters!

Obama is up 5% NATIONALLY among likely voters.
His approval rating is 51%
He's leading by 8% in the swing state of Virginia
He's leading by 7% in the swing state of Ohio
He's leading by 5% in the swing state of Colorado
42% of Americans say that the economy is getting better (A record high for the last 4 years)
39% of small business owners believe that Obama is more protective of their interests, versus Romney's 32%
37% trust Obama with the economy vs. Romney's 34%
http://www.reuters.com...
http://www.bizjournals.com...
http://firstread.nbcnews.com...
http://www.pbs.org...

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9/19/2012 12:11:05 PM
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Gallup shows that Obama is down to 48 approve 46 disapprove - a statistical tie. http://www.gallup.com...
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9/19/2012 12:45:25 PM
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At 9/18/2012 6:50:27 PM, 000ike wrote:
they said it was just a temporary sugar-high from convention rhetoric. They said it would die down within a week. They said that Obama's record was so poor that Mitt Romney had it in the bag if he would just keep the conversation on the economy. What a resounding response from voters!

Obama is up 5% NATIONALLY among likely voters.
His approval rating is 51%
He's leading by 8% in the swing state of Virginia
He's leading by 7% in the swing state of Ohio
He's leading by 5% in the swing state of Colorado
42% of Americans say that the economy is getting better (A record high for the last 4 years)
39% of small business owners believe that Obama is more protective of their interests, versus Romney's 32%
37% trust Obama with the economy vs. Romney's 34%
http://www.reuters.com...
http://www.bizjournals.com...
http://firstread.nbcnews.com...
http://www.pbs.org...

The gold standard in polling is the Rasmussen poll. They were the most accurate in predicting the last election. Currently, Romney is one point ahead of Obama. That's within the margin of error.

The polls are so important now that a lot of effort goes into making biased polls. To get Obama ahead, pollsters overweight Democrats, assume the turnout percentages of the last election in which Obama blocs turned out in record numbers, and use use registered voters rather than likely voters as the base.

It's currently neck-and-neck. We'll just have to go ahead and have election.

This may be the last real election for the Republic. Obama has said that if re-elected he will use executive orders to implement his agenda, bypassing Congress.

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