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The civil rights act of 1964?

darkkermit
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10/2/2012 12:33:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Which political party had more support for it? Was it the republican party or the democratic party?

Convention wisdom says that it was obviously the democrats that voted in favor of it and it was republicans that voted against it. Turns out conventional wisdom is wrong.
80% of republicans voted in favor of the civil rights act of 1964 and only 61% of democrats voted in favor of the civil rights act of 196 in the house. For the senate, it was 82% of republicans in favor of it vs. 66% of democrats.

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10/2/2012 1:08:57 PM
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So what? The Democrats were the popular party in the south until that time. 50 years ago, almost every criticism of the Republicans would be used on the democrats, and almost every criticism of the democrats would be used on the Republicans. Lincoln would be a democrat if he was in 2012, and Democrats pre-50s had a lot of racists, and Republicans were the progressive party before the 60s. Big Whoop.
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10/2/2012 2:01:00 PM
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Well, duh. That was right in the middle of the party's big shift. When you look a map of Democrat vs Republican registration, it essentially does a polar reversal over time.
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10/2/2012 2:03:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/2/2012 12:33:43 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Which political party had more support for it? Was it the republican party or the democratic party?

Convention wisdom says that it was obviously the democrats that voted in favor of it and it was republicans that voted against it. Turns out conventional wisdom is wrong.
80% of republicans voted in favor of the civil rights act of 1964 and only 61% of democrats voted in favor of the civil rights act of 196 in the house. For the senate, it was 82% of republicans in favor of it vs. 66% of democrats.

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And Kennedy lowered taxes on the rich, too. (Bwahh, a democrat lowering taxes?)

Just goes to show that voters need to stop identifying themselves with parties and start identifying themselves with issue. Start voting for a politician based on individual merits, not party affiliation.
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10/2/2012 4:09:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/2/2012 1:08:57 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
So what? The Democrats were the popular party in the south until that time. 50 years ago, almost every criticism of the Republicans would be used on the democrats, and almost every criticism of the democrats would be used on the Republicans. Lincoln would be a democrat if he was in 2012, and Democrats pre-50s had a lot of racists, and Republicans were the progressive party before the 60s. Big Whoop.

Lincoln was racist as all hell! Hell his 1860 election campaign song was "Dixie", because of his love for minstrel shows and blackface. Lincoln was opposed to equal rights for blacks, and was in favor of sending them back to Africa. It wasn't until after Lincoln's death that slavery was finally abolished.
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10/2/2012 4:13:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/2/2012 2:01:00 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Well, duh. That was right in the middle of the party's big shift. When you look a map of Democrat vs Republican registration, it essentially does a polar reversal over time.

^ This. Democrats used to be more conservative then Republicans during the time of the Civil War, so im not at all surprised that the more liberal party supported the Civil Rights Act more then the more conservative party.
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10/2/2012 4:19:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/2/2012 2:01:00 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Well, duh. That was right in the middle of the party's big shift. When you look a map of Democrat vs Republican registration, it essentially does a polar reversal over time.

In the 1976 presidential election the south all voted Democrat. In 1980 Reagan carried 44, and in 1984 he carried 49 states (the only state he didn't carry was Minnesota, because it was the other candidate's home state).

After Reagan republicans were usually stronger in the south, but Democrats still carried southern states.

There was no flip in regards to the south, there was just a shifting opinion back a forth. Reagan just made the south more open to Republicans, he didn't turn them republican.
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10/2/2012 4:20:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/2/2012 4:13:04 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/2/2012 2:01:00 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Well, duh. That was right in the middle of the party's big shift. When you look a map of Democrat vs Republican registration, it essentially does a polar reversal over time.

^ This. Democrats used to be more conservative then Republicans during the time of the Civil War, so im not at all surprised that the more liberal party supported the Civil Rights Act more then the more conservative party.

Didn't populism start in the south?
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