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lewis20
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10/7/2012 11:37:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Didn't see either one really beat the other
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GeoLaureate8
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10/8/2012 1:41:37 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
False.

Bill O'Reilly destroyed Jon Stewart. I thought Stewart could do better than that. Bill understands actual debate fundamentals, he sticks to the points. Jon goes off on tangents and rhetoric about "bullsh!t mountains."
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10/8/2012 8:34:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I would say it was a tie. Bill O Reilly is really good at explaining things in simple terms and effective in using emotion as a way of delivering messages. Lot of his points aren't rational but the way he presents it is very persuasive. Jon Stewart is very smart and uses humor to effectively deliver messages. Jon Stewart is very good at arguing against tradition and like to cherry pick a lot of issues. Stewart was very good at finding ways to make opponents contradict themselves. Both both used more rhetoric.

Overall, it was entertaining and I would hope something like this would happen again. It would nice if it was three-way and have a libertarian journalist/pundit in the mix.
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10/8/2012 10:20:19 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
If Geo says that O'Reilly won then it most likely means that Stewart won since Geo doesnt center his arguments and beliefs in reality.
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10/8/2012 10:21:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 10:20:19 AM, imabench wrote:
If Geo says that O'Reilly won then it most likely means that Stewart won since Geo doesnt center his arguments and beliefs in reality.

What would you know about reality. You're a liberal.
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10/8/2012 10:36:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 10:21:15 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 10:20:19 AM, imabench wrote:
If Geo says that O'Reilly won then it most likely means that Stewart won since Geo doesnt center his arguments and beliefs in reality.

What would you know about reality. You're a liberal.

stop trying to get on the weekly stupid
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10/8/2012 10:40:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 10:36:32 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/8/2012 10:21:15 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 10:20:19 AM, imabench wrote:
If Geo says that O'Reilly won then it most likely means that Stewart won since Geo doesnt center his arguments and beliefs in reality.

What would you know about reality. You're a liberal.

stop trying to get on the weekly stupid

Never.
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10/8/2012 10:45:56 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I though Bill O'Reilly won, though one could make a strong argument for a tie as the debate was a mess.
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10/9/2012 1:12:47 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I rethink my decision. O'Reilly won on the economic segment, Stewart won on the foreign affairs segment. Should be expected.
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10/9/2012 2:08:31 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I prefer Colbert.
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10/9/2012 12:43:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/9/2012 2:08:31 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
I prefer Colbert.


He's funny, but it's an easier format than Leibowitz's I mean Stewart's format; Colbert is playing a character (Bill O'Reily "emulation".)

Anyways, I lost a lot of respect for Stewart when he defended the "you didn't build that" comment from Obama's speech.
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