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chrumbelievable
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10/10/2012 4:52:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
David Siegel, the founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, and the man who built himself America's largest house, has threatened to lay off his employees if Obama is reelected.

In an e-mail sent to all of his employees, Siegel states, "Of course, as your employer, I can't tell you whom to vote for, and I certainly wouldn't interfere with your right to vote for whomever you choose. [...But] If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company [...] You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about."

Clearly, it seems, Siegel does not predict the need to fire his people due to the monetary constraints these taxes would bring about. Rather, as Hamilton Nolan points out in his piece for "Gawker," "Huge mansion. Huge fortune. Profitable company. What could David Siegal have to complain about? Well, the demonization of the 1% by Barack Obama, for one thing."

You can read that article, and Siegel's full e-mail, here: http://gawker.com...

I really, honestly can't even believe this. "I can't tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for Obama you're going to be fired." Coming from a man who has comparatively NOTHING to lose.

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10/10/2012 4:53:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
His business. His rules.
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10/10/2012 4:54:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
While I think he should wait to lay people off until he has too, I get where he is coming from. I mean, ask most business men, and they will say Obama is not good for them in any way. Not that I agreed with this necessarily.
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10/10/2012 4:55:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Secret ballot = this is mere hyperbole on his part.
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10/10/2012 4:56:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 4:55:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Secret ballot = this is mere hyperbole on his part.

Yeah, or he is just using hyperbole. I doubt he means it, to that extreme.
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10/10/2012 5:16:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 4:53:28 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
His business. His rules.
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10/10/2012 5:17:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 4:52:24 PM, chrumbelievable wrote:
David Siegel, the founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, and the man who built himself America's largest house, has threatened to lay off his employees if Obama is reelected.

False. His house, Versailles, would be tied for 6th place in the history of the US, and it comes in at 3rd in privately owned houses in the US (not that this really takes away from the main point of the article; just clearing up a factually incorrect statement).

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It would probably result in more people voting for Obama due to press coverage.
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10/10/2012 5:37:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 4:52:24 PM, chrumbelievable wrote:
David Siegel, the founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, and the man who built himself America's largest house, has threatened to lay off his employees if Obama is reelected.

In an e-mail sent to all of his employees, Siegel states, "Of course, as your employer, I can't tell you whom to vote for, and I certainly wouldn't interfere with your right to vote for whomever you choose. [...But] If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company [...] You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about."

Clearly, it seems, Siegel does not predict the need to fire his people due to the monetary constraints these taxes would bring about. Rather, as Hamilton Nolan points out in his piece for "Gawker," "Huge mansion. Huge fortune. Profitable company. What could David Siegal have to complain about? Well, the demonization of the 1% by Barack Obama, for one thing."

You can read that article, and Siegel's full e-mail, here: http://gawker.com...

I really, honestly can't even believe this. "I can't tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for Obama you're going to be fired." Coming from a man who has comparatively NOTHING to lose.

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He may have nothing to lose, but in his mind, he has nothing to gain, either. Why have a business, if your profit is not worth the risk, effort, or expenses involved?

Besides, Democrats should like this. Yes, these people may be out of a job, but someone else can go in and start this same company, and that is one person moving up (i.e. aids in reversing income inequality).
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10/10/2012 5:52:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
People are weak.

Everyone who received that email should immediately walk. Do not come in the next day.

Failing companies are retarded expensive. He's stupid. He basically swung his nuts and slapped every one of those people who consider themselves Democrat or intend to vote Democrate in the face. They should have took their own nuts out and walked right out the door. What would he have done? Gone to the Caribbean? I call bullshiit. He'd throw himself from his office window on the 216th floor or whatever.

Foolish people.
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10/10/2012 5:55:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Stupid move by the boss. Bad for employee morale and bad for PR. I doubt e did this because because he "cared" about his employees.
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10/10/2012 6:10:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
When I argued that businesses do things like this a few days ago, people thought I was stupid. Looks like they do attempt to manipulate employment to influence the election after all.
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10/10/2012 6:16:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 6:10:23 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
When I argued that businesses do things like this a few days ago, people thought I was stupid. Looks like they do attempt to manipulate employment to influence the election after all.

so now with that new evidence in place, would you like to debate then?
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10/10/2012 7:08:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 4:53:28 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
His business. His rules.

Yeah, but just because government shouldn't intervene to force him to do otherwise, doesn't make it a nice or considerate or intelligent thing for him to do... I sometimes worry that too many libertarians slip from "government has no right to intervene with force unless someone's body/property is being aggressed upon" to "if nobody's body/property is being aggressed upon, there's nothing wrong that's being done, so it's cool to be a total inconsiderate unempathetic douchewad"
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10/10/2012 7:12:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 5:55:56 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Stupid move by the boss. Bad for employee morale and bad for PR. I doubt e did this because because he "cared" about his employees.

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10/11/2012 8:53:53 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I wonder if the GOP is going to hire him to stand at a poll and demand identification? He is good at intimidation. "I'm not going to tell you who to vote for, but if it is not Mitt I'm going to fire you" LOL
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10/11/2012 10:02:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 7:08:57 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 10/10/2012 4:53:28 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
His business. His rules.

Yeah, but just because government shouldn't intervene to force him to do otherwise, doesn't make it a nice or considerate or intelligent thing for him to do... I sometimes worry that too many libertarians slip from "government has no right to intervene with force unless someone's body/property is being aggressed upon" to "if nobody's body/property is being aggressed upon, there's nothing wrong that's being done, so it's cool to be a total inconsiderate unempathetic douchewad"

Yes, thank you. Well said.
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10/11/2012 4:33:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/10/2012 7:08:57 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 10/10/2012 4:53:28 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
His business. His rules.

Yeah, but just because government shouldn't intervene to force him to do otherwise, doesn't make it a nice or considerate or intelligent thing for him to do... I sometimes worry that too many libertarians slip from "government has no right to intervene with force unless someone's body/property is being aggressed upon" to "if nobody's body/property is being aggressed upon, there's nothing wrong that's being done, so it's cool to be a total inconsiderate unempathetic douchewad"

+1000

I agree that the government can't and shouldn't punish him for sending the email, but threatening to fire your employees if they vote for Obama (yes that is a slight stretch but it's very likely that that was his intent) is unethical and insulting.
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10/11/2012 4:54:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Yes threatening to quit your job like this CEO said he would is extremely politically incorrect too.

When can we nationalize this poor excuse of a free market so we can have 100% employed? huh?