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10/11/2012 3:52:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2012 3:51:19 PM, hghppjfan wrote:
This shows your opinion on what you think the driving age should be. For me, it should be 15.

Title of the topic is "...voting age be".

Driving age or voting?

Driving: 12

Voting: 78
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10/11/2012 5:07:07 PM
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At 10/11/2012 3:55:24 PM, Koopin wrote:
Whenever we start paying taxes.

Or have kids.
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10/11/2012 5:11:12 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:07:07 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/11/2012 3:55:24 PM, Koopin wrote:
Whenever we start paying taxes.

Or have kids.

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10/11/2012 5:11:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2012 5:07:07 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/11/2012 3:55:24 PM, Koopin wrote:
Whenever we start paying taxes.

Or have kids.

Hope you're paying taxes by the time you're having kids
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10/11/2012 5:14:30 PM
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No age recruitment.

Doctorates degree recruitment from any field.
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10/11/2012 5:16:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2012 5:14:30 PM, FREEDO wrote:
No age recruitment.

Doctorates degree recruitment from any field.

A doctore is somewhat of a measure of intelligence, but not a measure of political knowledge (unless it's a useless PoliSci degree). The latter is more important than the former.
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10/11/2012 5:17:05 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:16:48 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:14:30 PM, FREEDO wrote:
No age recruitment.

Doctorates degree recruitment from any field.

A doctorate is somewhat of a measure of intelligence, but not a measure of political knowledge (unless it's a useless PoliSci degree). The latter is more important than the former.

Fixed.
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10/11/2012 5:17:38 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:14:30 PM, FREEDO wrote:
No age recruitment.

Doctorates degree recruitment from any field.

* requirement
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10/11/2012 5:20:39 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:16:48 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:14:30 PM, FREEDO wrote:
No age recruitment.

Doctorates degree recruitment from any field.

A doctore is somewhat of a measure of intelligence, but not a measure of political knowledge (unless it's a useless PoliSci degree). The latter is more important than the former.

I agree but closing it off to such a restricted point would create too much of a risk of single ideological control through manipulation of the educational process.
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10/11/2012 5:20:57 PM
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At 10/11/2012 3:51:19 PM, hghppjfan wrote:
This shows your opinion on what you think the driving age should be. For me, it should be 15.

Non sequitur

voting age: 21
driving age: none, but an adult must be in the car (including the driver). No license either.
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10/11/2012 5:21:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Better question: Should there be an age limit on when your too old to vote? Does anybody realize how much the old people vote fvck's everyone over. Everywhere from keeping away drugs, gay marriage, and not to mention lobbying the government for a sh1t ton of goodies, making them the biggest welfare queens ever.

Half of them are going to dead in the next 4 years anyways, why should they get a vote.
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10/11/2012 5:21:48 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:20:39 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:16:48 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:14:30 PM, FREEDO wrote:
No age recruitment.

Doctorates degree recruitment from any field.

A doctore is somewhat of a measure of intelligence, but not a measure of political knowledge (unless it's a useless PoliSci degree). The latter is more important than the former.

I agree but closing it off to such a restricted point would create too much of a risk of single ideological control through manipulation of the educational process.

Modern politics aren't taught as part of a course curriculum. If there is teaching bias, it's going to be present either way.
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10/11/2012 5:22:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2012 5:20:57 PM, DanT wrote:
At 10/11/2012 3:51:19 PM, hghppjfan wrote:
This shows your opinion on what you think the driving age should be. For me, it should be 15.

Non sequitur

voting age: 21
driving age: none, but an adult must be in the car (including the driver). No license either.

Ya cray cray.
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10/11/2012 5:22:53 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:20:39 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I agree but closing it off to such a restricted point would create too much of a risk of single ideological control through manipulation of the educational process.

That's guaranteed for any academic qualification. Academia=mainstream left majority in perpetuity.

The voting age should be 9001
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10/11/2012 5:25:18 PM
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At 10/11/2012 3:51:19 PM, hghppjfan wrote:
This shows your opinion on what you think the driving age should be. For me, it should be 15.

Says the 14 year old. It really pisses me off that people too young to vote continually push for lower voting ages. There is a reason you are too young to vote.

Can you imagine if the voting age was 15? The national election would be like high-school student body elections. It would be a popularity contest, with false promises of less homework and more vacations. Blah! It frustrates me just thinking about it.
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10/11/2012 5:25:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2012 5:11:12 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:07:07 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/11/2012 3:55:24 PM, Koopin wrote:
Whenever we start paying taxes.

Or have kids.

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10/11/2012 5:26:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2012 5:22:53 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:20:39 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I agree but closing it off to such a restricted point would create too much of a risk of single ideological control through manipulation of the educational process.

That's guaranteed for any academic qualification. Academia=mainstream left majority in perpetuity.

The voting age should be 9001

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10/11/2012 5:29:15 PM
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I simply disagree that the degree of liberalism apparent in college educated people is the result of teaching bias. I think that's simply the natural result. Many college educated people are Libertarian. It's not so much that it advances liberalism but that it erodes traditionalism.

However, if the control of government became dependent on a single major, I do think it would become overrun with effective propaganda in actuality. And most likely not in a liberal way.
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10/11/2012 5:29:55 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:25:18 PM, DanT wrote:
At 10/11/2012 3:51:19 PM, hghppjfan wrote:
This shows your opinion on what you think the driving age should be. For me, it should be 15.

Says the 14 year old. It really pisses me off that people too young to vote continually push for lower voting ages. There is a reason you are too young to vote.

It would be a popularity contest, with false promises of less homework and more vacations.

We'd be in trouble if elections ever turned into a popularity contest full of unkeepable promises.
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10/11/2012 5:30:11 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:26:06 PM, DanT wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:22:53 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:20:39 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I agree but closing it off to such a restricted point would create too much of a risk of single ideological control through manipulation of the educational process.

That's guaranteed for any academic qualification. Academia=mainstream left majority in perpetuity.

The voting age should be 9001

3 cheers for dictatorships! hip, hip!

I hope you understand he was joking.
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10/11/2012 5:32:18 PM
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Age means nothing, you should have to pass a test that covers the constitution and how capitolism works to vote. If a ten year old can pass the test then let them vote. Better than letting some 38 year old person who has no understanding of either be allowed to vote simply because of their age.
Beware of the people who are in your circle but are not in your corner.

And with the stroke of a pen people 18 to 21 who own a gun became criminals and public enemy #1 having committed no crime and having said nothing. Just like the Jews in Germany during WW2. Must be a weird feeling.

When I hear people crying and whining about their first world problems I think about the universe with everything in it and people in wheelchairs and all of their problems go away.
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10/11/2012 5:32:39 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:30:11 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:26:06 PM, DanT wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:22:53 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:20:39 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I agree but closing it off to such a restricted point would create too much of a risk of single ideological control through manipulation of the educational process.

That's guaranteed for any academic qualification. Academia=mainstream left majority in perpetuity.

The voting age should be 9001

3 cheers for dictatorships! hip, hip!

I hope you understand he was joking.

I hope you understand he was joking
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10/11/2012 5:34:36 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:32:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:30:11 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:26:06 PM, DanT wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:22:53 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:20:39 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I agree but closing it off to such a restricted point would create too much of a risk of single ideological control through manipulation of the educational process.

That's guaranteed for any academic qualification. Academia=mainstream left majority in perpetuity.

The voting age should be 9001

3 cheers for dictatorships! hip, hip!

I hope you understand he was joking.

I hope you understand he was joking

I hope you understand that the reason I said I hope he understood that he was joking is because DanT is know somewhat for not getting sarcasm.
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10/11/2012 5:34:38 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:32:18 PM, sadolite wrote:
Age means nothing, you should have to pass a test that covers the constitution and how capitolism works to vote. If a ten year old can pass the test then let them vote. Better than letting some 38 year old person who has no understanding of either be allowed to vote simply because of their age.

Vey few people would be voting though, young or old, if they had to take and pass a test.
Beware of the people who are in your circle but are not in your corner.

And with the stroke of a pen people 18 to 21 who own a gun became criminals and public enemy #1 having committed no crime and having said nothing. Just like the Jews in Germany during WW2. Must be a weird feeling.

When I hear people crying and whining about their first world problems I think about the universe with everything in it and people in wheelchairs and all of their problems go away.
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10/11/2012 5:48:26 PM
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Whenever is the age of majority. I can arbitrarily choose a number, but it's kind of irrelevant in my opinion. As for driving I dont think there should be any age restriction provided that they can show themselves to be able to drive.
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10/11/2012 5:51:32 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:30:11 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:26:06 PM, DanT wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:22:53 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:20:39 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I agree but closing it off to such a restricted point would create too much of a risk of single ideological control through manipulation of the educational process.

That's guaranteed for any academic qualification. Academia=mainstream left majority in perpetuity.

The voting age should be 9001

3 cheers for dictatorships! hip, hip!

I hope you understand he was joking.

I hope you understand I was joking.
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10/11/2012 5:52:18 PM
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At 10/11/2012 5:34:38 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 10/11/2012 5:32:18 PM, sadolite wrote:
Age means nothing, you should have to pass a test that covers the constitution and how capitolism works to vote. If a ten year old can pass the test then let them vote. Better than letting some 38 year old person who has no understanding of either be allowed to vote simply because of their age.

Vey few people would be voting though, young or old, if they had to take and pass a test.

and this is bad because?
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