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GeoLaureate8
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10/17/2012 2:24:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Jill Stein (and her VP) was merely walking to the debate University when the policy created a blockade in the middle of the street and refused to let them cross. They tried to go around them, but the police encircled them, so they peacefully sat down with an American flag on their lap. The big blockade of police tried to tell her she was blocking traffic. A Youtube commenter rightly pointed out "wait who is blocking traffic? Two women, or the three dozen or so cops standing around them?"

This is utterly sick. We call this a democracy? Obama and Romney are cowards who refuse to debate real issues against real candidates.
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10/17/2012 2:58:34 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
You may like her stance here, but her overall platform is very anti-freedom.
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10/17/2012 3:35:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 2:58:34 AM, Korashk wrote:
You may like her stance here, but her overall platform is very anti-freedom.

Exactly, she is truly an eco-fascist.
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10/17/2012 7:09:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 3:35:36 AM, innomen wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:58:34 AM, Korashk wrote:
You may like her stance here, but her overall platform is very anti-freedom.

Exactly, she is truly an eco-fascist.

And a socialist.
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10/17/2012 7:11:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 2:24:18 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Jill Stein (and her VP) was merely walking to the debate University when the policy created a blockade in the middle of the street and refused to let them cross. They tried to go around them, but the police encircled them, so they peacefully sat down with an American flag on their lap. The big blockade of police tried to tell her she was blocking traffic. A Youtube commenter rightly pointed out "wait who is blocking traffic? Two women, or the three dozen or so cops standing around them?"


This is utterly sick. We call this a democracy? Obama and Romney are cowards who refuse to debate real issues against real candidates.

As much as I strongly dislike the GP and Jill Stein, I couldn't agree more. Gary Johnson, Stein, Goode, and all other candidates should appear in the debates!
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10/17/2012 7:44:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
The fact that she tried to force herself in shows she shouldn't be there.
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10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?
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10/17/2012 8:38:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM, darkkermit wrote:
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?

Yes, if you got the money and youre a business, you get to pick the next President of the United States. Fvck the people.

I don't get how you can seriously be ok with 2 legitimate candidates in the same race as Obama/Romney not being allowed to debate. What, are they in a separate election or what? I thought this was the American Presidential race.
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10/17/2012 8:53:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 8:38:01 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM, darkkermit wrote:
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?

Yes, if you got the money and youre a business, you get to pick the next President of the United States. Fvck the people.

I don't get how you can seriously be ok with 2 legitimate candidates in the same race as Obama/Romney not being allowed to debate. What, are they in a separate election or what? I thought this was the American Presidential race.
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10/17/2012 9:11:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM, darkkermit wrote:
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?

The campus area does not belong to the bipartisan organization running the debates.
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10/17/2012 9:16:09 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 2:24:18 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Jill Stein (and her VP) was merely walking to the debate University when the policy created a blockade in the middle of the street and refused to let them cross. They tried to go around them, but the police encircled them, so they peacefully sat down with an American flag on their lap. The big blockade of police tried to tell her she was blocking traffic. A Youtube commenter rightly pointed out "wait who is blocking traffic? Two women, or the three dozen or so cops standing around them?"



This is utterly sick. We call this a democracy? Obama and Romney are cowards who refuse to debate real issues against real candidates.

Forget Jill Stein. I have someone who is much more influential than she will ever be. And yes, they are part of real Libertarianism. Stay tuned.
This show is about to get very interesting. =)
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10/17/2012 9:48:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 7:44:54 AM, OberHerr wrote:
The fact that she tried to force herself in shows she shouldn't be there.

Look up "force" in the dictionary, and then post. Try again.
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10/17/2012 9:49:34 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 9:48:11 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 10/17/2012 7:44:54 AM, OberHerr wrote:
The fact that she tried to force herself in shows she shouldn't be there.

Look up "force" in the dictionary, and then post. Try again.

lol, it's pathetically ironic on your part. Twenty or so officers with guns were using bodily force, surrounding her like the gang of thugs they are, and prevented her from crossing a street. That is force, and then they forcibly removed them. Do you even understand the concept of force?
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10/17/2012 9:54:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 3:35:36 AM, innomen wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:58:34 AM, Korashk wrote:
You may like her stance here, but her overall platform is very anti-freedom.

Exactly, she is truly an eco-fascist.

Disagree. She simply wants to raise taxes on multi-million dollar estates, increase capital gains tax, increase corporate income tax rate, use Federal spending as a means of economic growth. That's about as fascist as it gets for her.

She opposes the Affordable Healthcare Act and wants it repealed. She would slash the defense budget and end all wars. She wants to repeal NAFTA. She would not instate NDAA, the Patriot Act, the Cybersecurity Act, etc.

Plus Noam Chomsky endorsed her.

If you support Romney, but call Jill Stein a fascist, there's serious problems with that notion.

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10/17/2012 12:25:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 8:38:01 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM, darkkermit wrote:
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?

Yes, if you got the money and youre a business, you get to pick the next President of the United States. Fvck the people.

I don't get how you can seriously be ok with 2 legitimate candidates in the same race as Obama/Romney not being allowed to debate. What, are they in a separate election or what? I thought this was the American Presidential race.

If they were indeed legitimate candidates then the people would force the issue of letting them into the debates. She doesn't have a snowball's chance in hades of getting into double digits in this race so she would just be taking time away from legitimate candidates, that people actually want to hear from.
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10/17/2012 12:33:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 12:25:22 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:38:01 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM, darkkermit wrote:
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?

Yes, if you got the money and youre a business, you get to pick the next President of the United States. Fvck the people.

I don't get how you can seriously be ok with 2 legitimate candidates in the same race as Obama/Romney not being allowed to debate. What, are they in a separate election or what? I thought this was the American Presidential race.

If they were indeed legitimate candidates then the people would force the issue of letting them into the debates. She doesn't have a snowball's chance in hades of getting into double digits in this race so she would just be taking time away from legitimate candidates, that people actually want to hear from.

Jesus fvcking Christ
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10/17/2012 12:43:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 12:33:47 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 10/17/2012 12:25:22 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:38:01 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM, darkkermit wrote:
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?

Yes, if you got the money and youre a business, you get to pick the next President of the United States. Fvck the people.

I don't get how you can seriously be ok with 2 legitimate candidates in the same race as Obama/Romney not being allowed to debate. What, are they in a separate election or what? I thought this was the American Presidential race.

If they were indeed legitimate candidates then the people would force the issue of letting them into the debates. She doesn't have a snowball's chance in hades of getting into double digits in this race so she would just be taking time away from legitimate candidates, that people actually want to hear from.

Jesus fvcking Christ
IF THERE IS NO COVERAGE OF THIRD PARTIE HOW THE FVCK WILL PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEM???
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10/17/2012 1:00:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 12:33:47 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 10/17/2012 12:25:22 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:38:01 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM, darkkermit wrote:
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?

Yes, if you got the money and youre a business, you get to pick the next President of the United States. Fvck the people.

I don't get how you can seriously be ok with 2 legitimate candidates in the same race as Obama/Romney not being allowed to debate. What, are they in a separate election or what? I thought this was the American Presidential race.

If they were indeed legitimate candidates then the people would force the issue of letting them into the debates. She doesn't have a snowball's chance in hades of getting into double digits in this race so she would just be taking time away from legitimate candidates, that people actually want to hear from.

Jesus fvcking Christ
IF THERE IS NO COVERAGE OF THIRD PARTIE HOW THE FVCK WILL PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEM???

You clearly know about them. If these candidates want to make a change, they should be campaiging at the local levels. They'll have better chances of winning local elections rather than winning the presidency, and then build momentum from there.
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10/17/2012 1:13:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 1:00:34 PM, darkkermit wrote:
You clearly know about them. If these candidates want to make a change, they should be campaiging at the local levels. They'll have better chances of winning local elections rather than winning the presidency, and then build momentum from there.

So Governor Gary Johnson should demote himself to City Council candidate, work his way back up to Governor, then run for President? You make no sense whatsoever.

Gary Johnson is a Governor and successfully ran his own corporation. That sounds like someone familiar. Oh yeah, Mitt Romney, former Governor who ran his own corporation. But Romney is qualified, Johnson is not according to you.
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10/17/2012 2:00:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 12:33:47 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 10/17/2012 12:25:22 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:38:01 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 8:23:41 AM, darkkermit wrote:
she tries to force her self into a private event and the police actually do something about it. What kind of country do we live in when private property rights are upheld?

Yes, if you got the money and youre a business, you get to pick the next President of the United States. Fvck the people.

I don't get how you can seriously be ok with 2 legitimate candidates in the same race as Obama/Romney not being allowed to debate. What, are they in a separate election or what? I thought this was the American Presidential race.

If they were indeed legitimate candidates then the people would force the issue of letting them into the debates. She doesn't have a snowball's chance in hades of getting into double digits in this race so she would just be taking time away from legitimate candidates, that people actually want to hear from.

Jesus fvcking Christ
IF THERE IS NO COVERAGE OF THIRD PARTIE HOW THE FVCK WILL PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEM???

People already know about them, but they don't care. They aren't a serious contender and would just take time away from actual contenders.
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10/17/2012 2:04:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 1:13:31 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 1:00:34 PM, darkkermit wrote:
You clearly know about them. If these candidates want to make a change, they should be campaiging at the local levels. They'll have better chances of winning local elections rather than winning the presidency, and then build momentum from there.

So Governor Gary Johnson should demote himself to City Council candidate, work his way back up to Governor, then run for President? You make no sense whatsoever.

Gary Johnson is a Governor and successfully ran his own corporation. That sounds like someone familiar. Oh yeah, Mitt Romney, former Governor who ran his own corporation. But Romney is qualified, Johnson is not according to you.

If he had enough support he'd be in the debate.
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10/17/2012 2:14:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 2:04:21 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 1:13:31 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 1:00:34 PM, darkkermit wrote:
You clearly know about them. If these candidates want to make a change, they should be campaiging at the local levels. They'll have better chances of winning local elections rather than winning the presidency, and then build momentum from there.

So Governor Gary Johnson should demote himself to City Council candidate, work his way back up to Governor, then run for President? You make no sense whatsoever.

Gary Johnson is a Governor and successfully ran his own corporation. That sounds like someone familiar. Oh yeah, Mitt Romney, former Governor who ran his own corporation. But Romney is qualified, Johnson is not according to you.

If he had enough support he'd be in the debate.

maybe if johnson ran as a libertarian instead of a republican while governor. And there are other libertarians besides Johnson.....
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10/17/2012 2:31:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/17/2012 2:18:58 PM, yoda878 wrote:
Really why is this even getting attention?

Quiet, fascist. The Buddha is rolling in his grave.
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10/17/2012 2:34:47 PM
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At 10/17/2012 2:31:02 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:18:58 PM, yoda878 wrote:
Really why is this even getting attention?

Quiet, fascist. The Buddha is rolling in his grave.

Maybe he will be next; that is how i see this whole thing.
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10/17/2012 2:42:24 PM
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At 10/17/2012 2:31:02 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:18:58 PM, yoda878 wrote:
Really why is this even getting attention?

Quiet, fascist. The Buddha is rolling in his grave.

BTW Buddha should have been reincarnated by now!!
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10/17/2012 2:45:11 PM
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At 10/17/2012 2:42:24 PM, yoda878 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:31:02 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:18:58 PM, yoda878 wrote:
Really why is this even getting attention?

Quiet, fascist. The Buddha is rolling in his grave.

BTW Buddha should have been reincarnated by now!!

1. It's an expression.

2. Buddha doesn't believe in reincarnation.
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10/17/2012 2:48:38 PM
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At 10/17/2012 2:45:11 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:42:24 PM, yoda878 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:31:02 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/17/2012 2:18:58 PM, yoda878 wrote:
Really why is this even getting attention?

Quiet, fascist. The Buddha is rolling in his grave.

BTW Buddha should have been reincarnated by now!!

1. It's an expression.

2. Buddha doesn't believe in reincarnation.

1 I'm messing with you

2 you bit

3 rebirth i consider the some thing.
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