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10/18/2012 4:14:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
It has become harder and harder to attack Mitt Romney lately. Here's why:

- He won't reappoint Ben Bernanke and rightfully blames him and the Fed for the housing bubble and economic crisis.

- He criticized Obama's Fast and Furious conspiracy.

- He believes that true responsiblity lies in the hands of parents, not statism.

- He criticized Obama's overuse and reliance on drones.

- He supports free market economics and attacks Obama for the 6 trillion dollar deficit.

- He will attempt to bring down Obamacare on day one.

- He opposes China's currency manipulation and wont allow Chinese dominance.

- He will lower taxes across the board and lower capital gains tax.

- Rand Paul endorsed him.

It has been reported by investigative journalalists that for the first time ever in recent times, the financial cartel backers are having a real power dispute and so the power structure is split between the two camps of thought, so Obama v Romney looks to be real rather than pretend opposition.

A distant relative to Romney said that Romney has good intentions and that Mormon doctrine actual holds that the Constitution is a sacred document. He also noted how the elites were always against him as made evident by his failed attempt in 2008. And then we saw Aliester Crowley on CNN team up against Romney in the 2nd Presidential debate.

Millionaire Peter Schiff, Ron Pauls former economic adviser said he hopes that Romney is doing all this lying to win, but when he here into office, he will go with his heart and unchain the free market.

I can say that his new 9 point lead in the polls is more comforting than Obama winning.

Where am I wrong here? Something didn't seem right about this.
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10/18/2012 4:33:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Education is one of the few places he is saying the right thing and not pandering, which is nice.
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10/18/2012 4:42:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I've been thinking for a while that Romney is a really under rated candidate
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10/18/2012 4:47:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 4:33:31 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Education is one of the few places he is saying the right thing and not pandering, which is nice.

True, however, I feel that some students need pell grants. In theory, government subsidized student loans shouldn't exist because that raises the cost of college and eliminates the need for healthy competition of both quality and price of education.

The problem is, pell grants should be slowly phased out, not slashed immediately. That cuts off the life-line for many students who can't otherwise pay for school. I had the best job possible an 18 year old had and I could barely pay for college on my own. I relied on a High School scholarship awarded for good grades and my own wallet. I barely got by. Most students can't do what I did. Yes, I worked hard to get to where I was, but even the greatest effort barely resulted in a quality education.

I do believe in equal opportunity and some people just can't afford college on their own through no fault of their own.
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10/18/2012 4:47:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 4:42:43 PM, thett3 wrote:
I've been thinking for a while that Romney is a really under rated candidate

Although, he does support increased militarism but the chances of electing a GOP candidate who doesnt support that is sadly very slim
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10/18/2012 4:48:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
When I look at the stuff Bush said before he was elected, he sounded pretty solid. You know; humble foreign policy, no nation building etc.
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10/18/2012 4:50:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 4:47:37 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/18/2012 4:42:43 PM, thett3 wrote:
I've been thinking for a while that Romney is a really under rated candidate

Although, he does support increased militarism but the chances of electing a GOP candidate who doesnt support that is sadly very slim

Likewise for a Democrat. Obama has us bombing 8 countries right now.
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10/18/2012 4:52:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 4:50:01 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/18/2012 4:47:37 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/18/2012 4:42:43 PM, thett3 wrote:
I've been thinking for a while that Romney is a really under rated candidate

Although, he does support increased militarism but the chances of electing a GOP candidate who doesnt support that is sadly very slim

Likewise for a Democrat. Obama has us bombing 8 countries right now.

Fair enough. The dems did nominate Kerry who said a lot of anti-war rhetoric but who knows what he would've actually done. Obama certainly did not indicate that he would be a foreign policy neocon
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10/18/2012 4:54:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm really curious, where did Ron Paul endorse Mitt Romney?
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10/18/2012 4:55:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 4:54:58 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
I'm really curious, where did Ron Paul endorse Mitt Romney?

I misread the OP. I see now you said Rand Paul. My mistake.
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10/18/2012 5:00:53 PM
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Romney is for Pell Grants.
If you come from a poor family you qualify for Pell Grants, however if your middle class and can't afford college, too bad.
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10/18/2012 5:15:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Thursday, October 18th, 2012. After years of protest, Geo finally succumbs to the propaganda of the NWO and now believes that one of the candidates from the two major political parties is apparently not (totally) a pawn for the NWO/shill for the bankers.
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10/18/2012 5:18:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 5:00:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Romney is for Pell Grants.
If you come from a poor family you qualify for Pell Grants, however if your middle class and can't afford college, too bad.

That's a problem then. I lived in a middle class family during my high school years, but my high income step-dad wouldn't pay a single dime for my tuition. If I didn't have that scholarship, I wouldn't have been able to afford college through no fault of my own. This policy would shrink the middle class. I would have been born middle class and lived poor.
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10/18/2012 5:28:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 5:15:31 PM, jat93 wrote:
Thursday, October 18th, 2012. After years of protest, Geo finally succumbs to the propaganda of the NWO and now believes that one of the candidates from the two major political parties is apparently not (totally) a pawn for the NWO/shill for the bankers.
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10/18/2012 6:20:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 5:18:03 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/18/2012 5:00:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Romney is for Pell Grants.
If you come from a poor family you qualify for Pell Grants, however if your middle class and can't afford college, too bad.

If I didn't have that scholarship, I wouldn't have been able to afford college through no fault of my own.

Few people can afford college, I don't think it's any of their faults. My grandparents could work their way through college, it's not possible anymore.
Like I said, I don't understand why, if your family is poor and can't afford college the student is any more entitled to an education than a middle class family that can't afford to send their kid to college.
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10/18/2012 6:24:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 6:20:00 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Few people can afford college, I don't think it's any of their faults. My grandparents could work their way through college, it's not possible anymore.
Like I said, I don't understand why, if your family is poor and can't afford college the student is any more entitled to an education than a middle class family that can't afford to send their kid to college.

So, youre saying you support Pell grants for middle class and poor? Thats what I'm suggesting, except the whole Pell grant system should be phased out.
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10/18/2012 6:43:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 4:14:50 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It has become harder and harder to attack Mitt Romney lately. Here's why:

- He won't reappoint Ben Bernanke and rightfully blames him and the Fed for the housing bubble and economic crisis.

- He criticized Obama's Fast and Furious conspiracy.

- He believes that true responsiblity lies in the hands of parents, not statism.

- He criticized Obama's overuse and reliance on drones.

- He supports free market economics and attacks Obama for the 6 trillion dollar deficit.

- He will attempt to bring down Obamacare on day one.

- He opposes China's currency manipulation and wont allow Chinese dominance.

- He will lower taxes across the board and lower capital gains tax.

- Rand Paul endorsed him.

It has been reported by investigative journalalists that for the first time ever in recent times, the financial cartel backers are having a real power dispute and so the power structure is split between the two camps of thought, so Obama v Romney looks to be real rather than pretend opposition.

A distant relative to Romney said that Romney has good intentions and that Mormon doctrine actual holds that the Constitution is a sacred document. He also noted how the elites were always against him as made evident by his failed attempt in 2008. And then we saw Aliester Crowley on CNN team up against Romney in the 2nd Presidential debate.

Millionaire Peter Schiff, Ron Pauls former economic adviser said he hopes that Romney is doing all this lying to win, but when he here into office, he will go with his heart and unchain the free market.

I can say that his new 9 point lead in the polls is more comforting than Obama winning.


Where am I wrong here? Something didn't seem right about this.

Your focus is in the wrong place, Congress and unelected officials make all the decisions that affect your life.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

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10/18/2012 6:58:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 6:43:33 PM, sadolite wrote:
Your focus is in the wrong place, Congress and unelected officials make all the decisions that affect your life.

Congress signed ACTA, Congress appoints the Federal Reserve Chair? Congress sends us to war? Congress is commander in chief? Congress consults with and colludes with the U.N.? Congress signed the Patriot Act extension?

C'mon. The Executive Branch has become more and more powerful as time goes on.
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10/18/2012 6:59:37 PM
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At 10/18/2012 6:40:21 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
Are the majority of the people on this site Republican, Democrat, or undecided?

Anarcho-Capitalist, Paleo-Conservative, Libertarian, Liberal, Socialist, Anarchist.
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10/18/2012 6:59:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 6:24:43 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/18/2012 6:20:00 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Few people can afford college, I don't think it's any of their faults. My grandparents could work their way through college, it's not possible anymore.
Like I said, I don't understand why, if your family is poor and can't afford college the student is any more entitled to an education than a middle class family that can't afford to send their kid to college.

So, youre saying you support Pell grants for middle class and poor? Thats what I'm suggesting, except the whole Pell grant system should be phased out.

I think govt intervention is the reason we can't work our way through college and that expanding grants and loans is only making the problem worse. However college is near impossible to afford without aid
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10/18/2012 7:06:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 4:14:50 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It has become harder and harder to attack Mitt Romney lately. Here's why:

- He won't reappoint Ben Bernanke and rightfully blames him and the Fed for the housing bubble and economic crisis.

- He criticized Obama's Fast and Furious conspiracy.

- He believes that true responsiblity lies in the hands of parents, not statism.

- He criticized Obama's overuse and reliance on drones.

- He supports free market economics and attacks Obama for the 6 trillion dollar deficit.

- He will attempt to bring down Obamacare on day one.

- He opposes China's currency manipulation and wont allow Chinese dominance.

- He will lower taxes across the board and lower capital gains tax.

- Rand Paul endorsed him.

It has been reported by investigative journalalists that for the first time ever in recent times, the financial cartel backers are having a real power dispute and so the power structure is split between the two camps of thought, so Obama v Romney looks to be real rather than pretend opposition.

A distant relative to Romney said that Romney has good intentions and that Mormon doctrine actual holds that the Constitution is a sacred document. He also noted how the elites were always against him as made evident by his failed attempt in 2008. And then we saw Aliester Crowley on CNN team up against Romney in the 2nd Presidential debate.

Millionaire Peter Schiff, Ron Pauls former economic adviser said he hopes that Romney is doing all this lying to win, but when he here into office, he will go with his heart and unchain the free market.

I can say that his new 9 point lead in the polls is more comforting than Obama winning.


Where am I wrong here? Something didn't seem right about this.

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10/19/2012 7:55:23 PM
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Wouldn't a capital gains tax decrease increase the amount of money the Rothschilds and all the various alleged Illuminati members were roping in?
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10/20/2012 3:00:03 PM
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At 10/19/2012 7:55:23 PM, Citrakayah wrote:
Wouldn't a capital gains tax decrease increase the amount of money the Rothschilds and all the various alleged Illuminati members were roping in?

Rothschilds are beyond money. They control money. Decrease capital gains tax is better for the free market and small business.
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10/20/2012 3:18:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/18/2012 4:14:50 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It has become harder and harder to attack Mitt Romney lately. Here's why:

- He won't reappoint Ben Bernanke and rightfully blames him and the Fed for the housing bubble and economic crisis.

- He criticized Obama's Fast and Furious conspiracy.

- He believes that true responsiblity lies in the hands of parents, not statism.

- He criticized Obama's overuse and reliance on drones.

Yet he wants to expand our military and wars... just not with drones...


- He supports free market economics and attacks Obama for the 6 trillion dollar deficit.

First, you mean $6 trillion increase in debt, not deficit. There's a big difference. Second, Romney would not change it at all, he'd make it worse, just like the last two republicans when they took the white house after a democrat.


- He will attempt to bring down Obamacare on day one.

- He opposes China's currency manipulation and wont allow Chinese dominance.

No he won't. He'll join in to make money with them.


- He will lower taxes across the board and lower capital gains tax.

All the while increasing spending, what a conservative champion.


- Rand Paul endorsed him.

I bet that makes you weak in the knees, doesn't it.


It has been reported by investigative journalalists that for the first time ever in recent times, the financial cartel backers are having a real power dispute and so the power structure is split between the two camps of thought, so Obama v Romney looks to be real rather than pretend opposition.

A distant relative to Romney said that Romney has good intentions and that Mormon doctrine actual holds that the Constitution is a sacred document. He also noted how the elites were always against him as made evident by his failed attempt in 2008. And then we saw Aliester Crowley on CNN team up against Romney in the 2nd Presidential debate.

Millionaire Peter Schiff, Ron Pauls former economic adviser said he hopes that Romney is doing all this lying to win, but when he here into office, he will go with his heart and unchain the free market.

"he hopes that Romney is doing all this lying to win."

What a great role model to have be president.


I can say that his new 9 point lead in the polls is more comforting than Obama winning.


Where am I wrong here? Something didn't seem right about this.
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10/20/2012 3:48:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 3:18:43 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 10/18/2012 4:14:50 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It has become harder and harder to attack Mitt Romney lately. Here's why:

- He won't reappoint Ben Bernanke and rightfully blames him and the Fed for the housing bubble and economic crisis.

- He criticized Obama's Fast and Furious conspiracy.

- He believes that true responsiblity lies in the hands of parents, not statism.

- He criticized Obama's overuse and reliance on drones.

Yet he wants to expand our military and wars... just not with drones...

His defense budget is nearly the same as Obama's. They both suck when it comes to foreign policy.

- He supports free market economics and attacks Obama for the 6 trillion dollar deficit.

First, you mean $6 trillion increase in debt, not deficit. There's a big difference.

Yes, my mistake. I meant that Obama added 6.2 trillion to the debt.

Second, Romney would not change it at all, he'd make it worse, just like the last two republicans when they took the white house after a democrat.

It seems everything Romney gets in charge of becomes prosperous. If there's one thing Romney is good at, it's making money. He will be in charge of the United States corporation, he doesn't want it to go under water under his watch.

- He will attempt to bring down Obamacare on day one.

- He opposes China's currency manipulation and wont allow Chinese dominance.

No he won't. He'll join in to make money with them.

He'll join China? C' mon.

- He will lower taxes across the board and lower capital gains tax.

All the while increasing spending, what a conservative champion.

He will decrease all spending except defense.

- Rand Paul endorsed him.

I bet that makes you weak in the knees, doesn't it.

I was initially pissed at Rand Paul for endorsing him, but after looking deeper into Romney, I started to see why he endorsed him. Not to mention, Rand has met with and spoke to him personally.

It has been reported by investigative journalalists that for the first time ever in recent times, the financial cartel backers are having a real power dispute and so the power structure is split between the two camps of thought, so Obama v Romney looks to be real rather than pretend opposition.

A distant relative to Romney said that Romney has good intentions and that Mormon doctrine actual holds that the Constitution is a sacred document. He also noted how the elites were always against him as made evident by his failed attempt in 2008. And then we saw Aliester Crowley on CNN team up against Romney in the 2nd Presidential debate.

Millionaire Peter Schiff, Ron Pauls former economic adviser said he hopes that Romney is doing all this lying to win, but when he here into office, he will go with his heart and unchain the free market.

"he hopes that Romney is doing all this lying to win."

What a great role model to have be president.

I'm not sure that it's certain he is lying, perhaps just misrepresentations of his opponent. But thats not the point. Schiffs point was that he thinks Romney is playing safe politics, but in his heart he is truly free market and will do what it takes for a prosperous economy.

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10/20/2012 4:22:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Mitt Romney has no plan. He just is saying what he thinks will get him elected. Will the President be Moderate Mitt, Conservative Mitt, or in between? He does not seem so bad because no matter what position you have, there is a chance Mitt is for it.
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10/20/2012 4:27:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 4:22:13 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Mitt Romney has no plan. He just is saying what he thinks will get him elected. Will the President be Moderate Mitt, Conservative Mitt, or in between? He does not seem so bad because no matter what position you have, there is a chance Mitt is for it.

Yeah, you're totally right. No plan at all.

I wonder what those pesky things he's kept saying he'll do would be considered?
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10/20/2012 4:30:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 4:22:13 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Mitt Romney has no plan. He just is saying what he thinks will get him elected. Will the President be Moderate Mitt, Conservative Mitt, or in between? He does not seem so bad because no matter what position you have, there is a chance Mitt is for it.

This. All libertarians/free marketeers supporting Mitt can do is cross their fingers and hope that President Mitt is consistent with his free market, deregulatory rhetoric. But based on his track record of constant flip-flopping with whichever way the political wind is blowing, it's obvious that such hope is naive and delusional. To expect that kind of economic change from Mitt is even more naive than it was to expect foreign policy/civil liberties change from Obama, and we all see how that one worked out.
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10/20/2012 4:38:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 3:48:01 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It seems everything Romney gets in charge of becomes prosperous. If there's one thing Romney is good at, it's making money. He will be in charge of the United States corporation, he doesn't want it to go under water under his watch.

But the United States economy is not just a big corporation as Romney always implies and cannot and should not be micromanaged as such. You're probably familiar with Friedrich Hayek's arguments against centrally planned economies, so I don't know why you'd act as if the President trying to be CEO of the country is remotely a good thing. It's certainly not very "free market."