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10/20/2012 3:29:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
is coming up,

Does anyone know a good drinking game for it? It has to have "every time either one of them ties immigration to the economy, take a drink."
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10/20/2012 3:38:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Its supposed to be foreign policy right?
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10/20/2012 3:51:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
If Romney brings up Obama giving money to Al Queda in Syria, then we'll be talking. Last time I urged Romney to bring up Fast & Furious and he did, this time I urge him to bring up Al-Queda terrorists getting Obama funds. Lets see if he does it.
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10/20/2012 3:56:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 3:51:10 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If Romney brings up Obama giving money to Al Queda in Syria, then we'll be talking. Last time I urged Romney to bring up Fast & Furious and he did, this time I urge him to bring up Al-Queda terrorists getting Obama funds. Lets see if he does it.

Lol. You urged him to bring up Fast and Furious?

1 - You made a thread titled 'Romney Won't Bring Up Fast n Furious / Drones'

2 - Did you write him a letter?
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10/20/2012 4:05:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 3:56:06 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:51:10 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If Romney brings up Obama giving money to Al Queda in Syria, then we'll be talking. Last time I urged Romney to bring up Fast & Furious and he did, this time I urge him to bring up Al-Queda terrorists getting Obama funds. Lets see if he does it.

Lol. You urged him to bring up Fast and Furious?

1 - You made a thread titled 'Romney Won't Bring Up Fast n Furious / Drones'

2 - Did you write him a letter?

Kind of thick aren't you?
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10/20/2012 4:57:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Drink to the following:
-middle class
-small businesses

The two best buzz words.

Also drink to logically fallacies and someone interrupting another. You'll be dead within 5 minutes.
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10/20/2012 6:12:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Drink everytime you want to kill yourself.
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10/21/2012 11:46:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
It's hard to believe there are any undecided voters out there. When I haven't known who I was voting for by the third debate, it's because I wasn't planning on voting.
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10/21/2012 5:51:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 3:38:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Its supposed to be foreign policy right?

Derp on me then, but immigration should count as foreign policy, at least somewhat.
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10/21/2012 5:51:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/21/2012 5:51:08 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:38:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Its supposed to be foreign policy right?

Derp on me then, but immigration should count as foreign policy, at least somewhat.

Topics:
America's role in the world
Our longest war - Afghanistan and Pakistan
Red Lines - Israel and Iran
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - I
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - II
The Rise of China and Tomorrow's World
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10/21/2012 6:37:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/21/2012 5:51:51 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 10/21/2012 5:51:08 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:38:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Its supposed to be foreign policy right?

Derp on me then, but immigration should count as foreign policy, at least somewhat.

Topics:
America's role in the world
Our longest war - Afghanistan and Pakistan
Red Lines - Israel and Iran
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - I
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - II
The Rise of China and Tomorrow's World

So they're going to talk about jobs and the economy

Drink when Obama says he killed Osama, kill the bottle If he says he did it with his own bare hands.
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10/21/2012 6:52:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/21/2012 6:37:13 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 10/21/2012 5:51:51 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 10/21/2012 5:51:08 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:38:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Its supposed to be foreign policy right?

Derp on me then, but immigration should count as foreign policy, at least somewhat.

Topics:
America's role in the world
Our longest war - Afghanistan and Pakistan
Red Lines - Israel and Iran
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - I
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - II
The Rise of China and Tomorrow's World

So they're going to talk about jobs and the economy

Drink when Obama says he killed Osama, kill the bottle If he says he did it with his own bare hands.

That's going to be mentioned probably only once. Obama made light of the fact that its been such a popular talking point at a fund-raising dinner, and he doesn't want to overplay his hand. Mentioning it once would be a sufficient and potent reminder, without it looking like that's all he's got. So, that won't be a very promising drinking game
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10/21/2012 6:58:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 3:56:06 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:51:10 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If Romney brings up Obama giving money to Al Queda in Syria, then we'll be talking. Last time I urged Romney to bring up Fast & Furious and he did, this time I urge him to bring up Al-Queda terrorists getting Obama funds. Lets see if he does it.

Lol. You urged him to bring up Fast and Furious?

1 - You made a thread titled 'Romney Won't Bring Up Fast n Furious / Drones'

2 - Did you write him a letter?

10,000 points to you JR
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10/21/2012 6:59:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Ideas:
Take a shot every time one of them interrupts someone
Take a shot every time they both talk at the same time
Take a shot every time one of them doesnt listen to the moderator
Take a shot every time one of them mentions Libya
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10/21/2012 7:03:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/21/2012 6:52:01 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 10/21/2012 6:37:13 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 10/21/2012 5:51:51 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 10/21/2012 5:51:08 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:38:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Its supposed to be foreign policy right?

Derp on me then, but immigration should count as foreign policy, at least somewhat.

Topics:
America's role in the world
Our longest war - Afghanistan and Pakistan
Red Lines - Israel and Iran
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - I
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - II
The Rise of China and Tomorrow's World

So they're going to talk about jobs and the economy

Drink when Obama says he killed Osama, kill the bottle If he says he did it with his own bare hands.

That's going to be mentioned probably only once. Obama made light of the fact that its been such a popular talking point at a fund-raising dinner, and he doesn't want to overplay his hand. Mentioning it once would be a sufficient and potent reminder, without it looking like that's all he's got. So, that won't be a very promising drinking game

Put you on double shots of 151 and I'll take the odds he mentions it more than once. That is if they actually stick to foreign policy.
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10/21/2012 7:26:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 6:12:07 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
Drink everytime you want to kill yourself.

Better yet, drink every time you want to kill a candidate.
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10/21/2012 7:57:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/21/2012 6:52:01 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 10/21/2012 6:37:13 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 10/21/2012 5:51:51 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 10/21/2012 5:51:08 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:38:53 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Its supposed to be foreign policy right?

Derp on me then, but immigration should count as foreign policy, at least somewhat.

Topics:
America's role in the world
Our longest war - Afghanistan and Pakistan
Red Lines - Israel and Iran
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - I
The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - II
The Rise of China and Tomorrow's World

So they're going to talk about jobs and the economy

Drink when Obama says he killed Osama, kill the bottle If he says he did it with his own bare hands.

That's going to be mentioned probably only once. Obama made light of the fact that its been such a popular talking point at a fund-raising dinner, and he doesn't want to overplay his hand. Mentioning it once would be a sufficient and potent reminder, without it looking like that's all he's got. So, that won't be a very promising drinking game

But it is all he's got, I doubt he can just mention it once and then admit he's failed miserably at everything else in the foreign policy arena.

I can see it now...

"I killed Osama bin Laden and....ummmm....let's see....well, no, not that, ummmm...well...Netanyahu really hates me but hey, Joe Biden calls him Bebe, that should count for something...and let's see...and ummmm, I killed Bin Laden, he's dead because of me...and, um, hmmmm...well there's China and, no, never mind about China, and there's Iran, no, not Iran, let's see...uhhh, well, that Fast and Furious, now let me tell you, that was a good movie wasn't it, and ummm....I killed bin Laden, he's a gonner, and well...ummm...you know that Benghazi thing, that was Hillary's fault....and what else, oh yeah, and I killed Osama Bin Laden, did I mention that already?"

"Mr. President, your time is up, it's Mr. Romney's turn now..."

"Yeah, OK, I know, but before Mr. Romney speaks I'd just like to say, it's unAmerican to criticize me, I mean, you can't politicize my abject failures or you're being disrespectful, probably a racist even, I'm the President who killed bin Laden you know, you can kiss my ring, and bow down, and sing Hail to the Chief even, but no criticizing, if you criticize me you're a damn commie, I'm the President and I killed bin Laden, he's dead because of me you know, so no criticizing..."
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10/21/2012 10:18:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/21/2012 10:16:11 PM, jat93 wrote:
Drink every time one of them tries to tie in their foreign policy proposals to creating a better economy

This, and when bin Laden and Iran are mentioned.
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10/21/2012 11:11:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
If Obama says "I killed Osama bin Laden" Mitt Romney needs to respond very firmly with "No you didn't."
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10/22/2012 12:38:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/20/2012 3:56:06 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:51:10 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If Romney brings up Obama giving money to Al Queda in Syria, then we'll be talking. Last time I urged Romney to bring up Fast & Furious and he did, this time I urge him to bring up Al-Queda terrorists getting Obama funds. Lets see if he does it.

Lol. You urged him to bring up Fast and Furious?

1 - You made a thread titled 'Romney Won't Bring Up Fast n Furious / Drones'

2 - Did you write him a letter?

While standing 25 ft from Romney I exclaimed "Why won't he bring up Fast and Furious?"
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10/22/2012 12:41:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/22/2012 12:38:23 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:56:06 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 10/20/2012 3:51:10 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If Romney brings up Obama giving money to Al Queda in Syria, then we'll be talking. Last time I urged Romney to bring up Fast & Furious and he did, this time I urge him to bring up Al-Queda terrorists getting Obama funds. Lets see if he does it.

Lol. You urged him to bring up Fast and Furious?

1 - You made a thread titled 'Romney Won't Bring Up Fast n Furious / Drones'

2 - Did you write him a letter?

While standing 25 ft from Romney I exclaimed "Why won't he bring up Fast and Furious?"

You exclaimed? Did he hear you? Was he looking at you?
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10/22/2012 10:09:57 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/21/2012 10:16:11 PM, jat93 wrote:
Drink every time one of them tries to tie in their foreign policy proposals to creating a better economy

That isn't so far fetched, Obama's bungling lack of leadership in the mideast could get us $10 a gallon gas prices and the economy tanks huge.

There's a lot of talk about avoiding a trade war with China, hell, China has been engagiged in a trade war with us for decades, it's time to respond.

Obama's idea of foriegn policy is to have hispanic performers come to the white house parties.
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10/22/2012 10:35:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
That isn't so far fetched, Obama's bungling lack of leadership in the mideast could get us $10 a gallon gas prices and the economy tanks huge.

How would this happen?
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10/22/2012 2:57:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/22/2012 10:35:32 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
That isn't so far fetched, Obama's bungling lack of leadership in the mideast could get us $10 a gallon gas prices and the economy tanks huge.

How would this happen?

f*cking up relations with Saudi Arabia could do the trick.
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10/22/2012 3:01:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/22/2012 2:57:22 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/22/2012 10:35:32 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
That isn't so far fetched, Obama's bungling lack of leadership in the mideast could get us $10 a gallon gas prices and the economy tanks huge.

How would this happen?

f*cking up relations with Saudi Arabia could do the trick.

Nah, we get so little of our oil from the Mideast, although the overall price of the commodity may go up, it could be mitigated by increasing domestic production. Europe on the other hand may be screwed, but se la vie.
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10/22/2012 3:02:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/22/2012 3:01:38 PM, innomen wrote:
At 10/22/2012 2:57:22 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/22/2012 10:35:32 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
That isn't so far fetched, Obama's bungling lack of leadership in the mideast could get us $10 a gallon gas prices and the economy tanks huge.

How would this happen?

f*cking up relations with Saudi Arabia could do the trick.

Nah, we get so little of our oil from the Mideast, although the overall price of the commodity may go up, it could be mitigated by increasing domestic production.

Good point

Europe on the other hand may be screwed, but se la vie.
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10/22/2012 3:09:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/22/2012 3:02:50 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/22/2012 3:01:38 PM, innomen wrote:
At 10/22/2012 2:57:22 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/22/2012 10:35:32 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
That isn't so far fetched, Obama's bungling lack of leadership in the mideast could get us $10 a gallon gas prices and the economy tanks huge.

How would this happen?

f*cking up relations with Saudi Arabia could do the trick.

Nah, we get so little of our oil from the Mideast, although the overall price of the commodity may go up, it could be mitigated by increasing domestic production.

Good point

Europe on the other hand may be screwed, but se la vie.

Eh, unless we tax or provide quotas for imports or exports of oil, it really doesn't matter whether the oil is produced domestically or foreign, since the cost of transportation is only 2 cents. What matters is the world price of oil.
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10/22/2012 3:18:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/22/2012 3:09:22 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 10/22/2012 3:02:50 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/22/2012 3:01:38 PM, innomen wrote:
At 10/22/2012 2:57:22 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/22/2012 10:35:32 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
That isn't so far fetched, Obama's bungling lack of leadership in the mideast could get us $10 a gallon gas prices and the economy tanks huge.

How would this happen?

f*cking up relations with Saudi Arabia could do the trick.

Nah, we get so little of our oil from the Mideast, although the overall price of the commodity may go up, it could be mitigated by increasing domestic production.

Good point

Europe on the other hand may be screwed, but se la vie.

Eh, unless we tax or provide quotas for imports or exports of oil, it really doesn't matter whether the oil is produced domestically or foreign, since the cost of transportation is only 2 cents. What matters is the world price of oil.

Then why is the price of gas so incredibly cheap in so many oil producing countries?
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10/22/2012 3:21:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/22/2012 3:18:57 PM, innomen wrote:
At 10/22/2012 3:09:22 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 10/22/2012 3:02:50 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/22/2012 3:01:38 PM, innomen wrote:
At 10/22/2012 2:57:22 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/22/2012 10:35:32 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
That isn't so far fetched, Obama's bungling lack of leadership in the mideast could get us $10 a gallon gas prices and the economy tanks huge.

How would this happen?

f*cking up relations with Saudi Arabia could do the trick.

Nah, we get so little of our oil from the Mideast, although the overall price of the commodity may go up, it could be mitigated by increasing domestic production.

Good point

Europe on the other hand may be screwed, but se la vie.

Eh, unless we tax or provide quotas for imports or exports of oil, it really doesn't matter whether the oil is produced domestically or foreign, since the cost of transportation is only 2 cents. What matters is the world price of oil.

Then why is the price of gas so incredibly cheap in so many oil producing countries?
http://www.csmonitor.com...

My guess would be OPEC and government subsidies/regulations.
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