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FREEDO
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10/23/2012 3:00:47 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I've seen many Facebook posts suggest that Romney and Obama both have Goldman Sachs as their top contributor.

I've been unable to find their source for this.

I've found many lists which claim to show their top contributors but, as it says in the fine print or sometimes neglects to say at all, these aren't contributions from the actual companies, only the employees. By this standard, Goldman Sachs is the top contributor of Romney and the Microsoft is the top contributor of Obama. But this just isn't a very meaningful comparison.

Perhaps it's just because PACs and such conceal the proper information, but I'm just not finding the info I want. You got anything?
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lewis20
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10/23/2012 9:59:09 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
http://www.opensecrets.org...

http://www.opensecrets.org...

Goldmann Sachs used to be top for Obama too, not sure what happened
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10/23/2012 10:01:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/23/2012 9:59:09 AM, lewis20 wrote:
http://www.opensecrets.org...

http://www.opensecrets.org...

Goldmann Sachs used to be top for Obama too, not sure what happened

I think that's the only metric they use, the only list available.
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10/23/2012 10:02:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Corporations can't directly donate to presidential campaigns. However, they can indirectly donate through PACs, super-Pacs and non-profit organizations.
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lewis20
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10/23/2012 10:06:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
If you sift through pacs on the open secrets you can find where Goldman Sachs will be credited with giving a lot and showing up a lot of places

http://www.opensecrets.org...
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Chaos88
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10/23/2012 4:34:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/23/2012 10:02:06 AM, darkkermit wrote:
Corporations can't directly donate to presidential campaigns. However, they can indirectly donate through PACs, super-Pacs and non-profit organizations.

I thought they could. Of course, they can only donate up to the limit of $3,500 or whatever, so the PAC is the bigger bang for the buck. Besides, the PAC can influence policy, regardless of who wins.
GeoLaureate8
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10/23/2012 4:49:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
More importantly, Goldman Sachs has is all over Obamas admin. They are the prime example of the rotating door between government and corporations.

http://www.naturalnews.com...
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10/23/2012 4:54:52 PM
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Goldman Sachs gave over 1 million dollars to Obama: http://www.opensecrets.org...
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10/23/2012 4:55:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/23/2012 3:00:47 AM, FREEDO wrote:
I've seen many Facebook posts suggest that Romney and Obama both have Goldman Sachs as their top contributor.

I've been unable to find their source for this.

I've found many lists which claim to show their top contributors but, as it says in the fine print or sometimes neglects to say at all, these aren't contributions from the actual companies, only the employees. By this standard, Goldman Sachs is the top contributor of Romney and the Microsoft is the top contributor of Obama. But this just isn't a very meaningful comparison.

Perhaps it's just because PACs and such conceal the proper information, but I'm just not finding the info I want. You got anything?

Youre being played kid. They are all bought and paid for. Sorry, but so true.
FREEDO
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10/23/2012 5:02:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/23/2012 10:06:22 AM, darkkermit wrote:
Although it is surprisingly easy for a corporation to set up a PAC.

Stephan Colbert set up a PAC in a few minutes on his show.
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FREEDO
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10/23/2012 5:03:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/23/2012 4:54:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Goldman Sachs gave over 1 million dollars to Obama: http://www.opensecrets.org...

Again. That isn't from the actual company.
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darkkermit
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10/23/2012 5:14:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/23/2012 5:02:16 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 10/23/2012 10:06:22 AM, darkkermit wrote:
Although it is surprisingly easy for a corporation to set up a PAC.

Stephan Colbert set up a PAC in a few minutes on his show.

http://www.opensecrets.org...

one of the few super pacs that have expenditures FOR and AGAINST a candidate.
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GeoLaureate8
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10/23/2012 5:28:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/23/2012 5:03:24 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 10/23/2012 4:54:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Goldman Sachs gave over 1 million dollars to Obama: http://www.opensecrets.org...

Again. That isn't from the actual company.

Then you completely miss the point. Look at the WHO in Goldman Sachs. And again, look at the direct link between Goldman Sachs and Presidential Admins: http://www.naturalnews.com...

"Italy's new prime minister and finance minister, who heads the new government that took over after Berlusconi's resignation, is an international adviser to Goldman Sachs.[78]
"So is"Otmar Issing
, former board member of the Bundesbank and the Executive Board of the European Bank.[78]
Mario Draghi
, the new head of the"European Central Bank
, is the former managing director of Goldman Sachs International.[78]
Ant"nio Borges, formerly head of the"International Monetary Fund
's European Department is a former vice chairman of Goldman Sachs International.[78]
Peter Sutherland
, former Attorney General of Ireland is a non-executive director of Goldman SachsInternational."Karel van Miert
, former EU Competition Commissioner is an ex-international adviser to Goldman Sachs.[78] These ties between Goldman Sachs and European leaders are an ongoing source of controversy.[78]
-- http://en.m.wikipedia.org...

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"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat