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Have Elections Become Unfair To The People?

pozessed
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10/27/2012 8:03:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I am just curious of peoples thoughts about if the elections are corrupted?

If you think they are do you think it's fair to the people?
FREEDO
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10/27/2012 11:32:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
It is a bold fact, at least in the presidential election, your vote DOES NOT matter. It is literally not counted. It is a complex and strange system that excludes the possibility of third parties and can give a different result than what the actual popular decision was. This was the case when George W. Bush became president, even though most people voted for Al Gore.
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10/27/2012 11:41:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/27/2012 11:32:46 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It is a bold fact, at least in the presidential election, your vote DOES NOT matter. It is literally not counted. It is a complex and strange system that excludes the possibility of third parties and can give a different result than what the actual popular decision was. This was the case when George W. Bush became president, even though most people voted for Al Gore.

That's not entirely true.

Your vote matters, assuming your electorates vote the way they are supposed to, in your district, which matters in your state.

There are pros and cons to it, but it's nice that a right state with great voter turnout won't necessarily nullify a left state with slightly less vote turnout.
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DanT
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10/28/2012 8:24:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/27/2012 11:32:46 PM, FREEDO wrote:
It is a bold fact, at least in the presidential election, your vote DOES NOT matter. It is literally not counted. It is a complex and strange system that excludes the possibility of third parties and can give a different result than what the actual popular decision was. This was the case when George W. Bush became president, even though most people voted for Al Gore.

Gore had 48.4% of the popular vote and Bush had 47.9%; go cry me a river. Bush also carried 30 while Gore only carried 20 (not including DC which shouldn't even have a vote.)

Bush won because he had 271 electoral votes compared to Gore's 266. The reason we have electoral votes is because the President doesn't jut represent the general population, the President represents the Federation. Senators represent their State Government, Representatives represent the people, and the President represents the Federation. The President represents the Union, the Member States, and the People. Therefore the President is elected by an electoral college.
Originally Senators were appointed by the state, but Democrats wanted to turn the republic into a democracy, so they changed it to a popular vote. Originally only representatives were elected by popular vote, and for good reason.
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DanT
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10/28/2012 8:26:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/27/2012 11:33:07 PM, FREEDO wrote:
This is why I voted Vermin Supreme.

Has anyone issued you your moron card yet?
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Lordknukle
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10/28/2012 8:59:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/27/2012 11:33:07 PM, FREEDO wrote:
This is why I voted Vermin Supreme.

Great success!
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