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tyler90az
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10/31/2012 10:24:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Why did Romney want to end FEMA?

When asked if that also meant disaster relief, Romney replied:

"We cannot " we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we"ll all be dead and gone before it"s paid off. It makes no sense at all."

Would more people be dead without FEMA? How bad of a cal was this by Romney?
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10/31/2012 10:39:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Cause they sorta suck.
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lewis20
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10/31/2012 10:40:09 PM
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Fema doesn't actually do any first response. The Red Cross and the state national guard units do the disaster relief.
If you aren't going to cut FEMA, just give their funds to the Red Cross or something.
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10/31/2012 10:42:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:24:03 PM, tyler90az wrote:
Why did Romney want to end FEMA?

When asked if that also meant disaster relief, Romney replied:

"We cannot " we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we"ll all be dead and gone before it"s paid off. It makes no sense at all."

Would more people be dead without FEMA? How bad of a cal was this by Romney?

Doubt it. Probably less considering how much the effed up Katrina.
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tyler90az
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10/31/2012 10:42:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:40:09 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Fema doesn't actually do any first response. The Red Cross and the state national guard units do the disaster relief.
If you aren't going to cut FEMA, just give their funds to the Red Cross or something.

You are mistaking the bad handling of Fema by George Bush as FEMA not doing anything. Go ask some of these Sandy Storm Victims after its all done if FEMA helped.
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lewis20
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10/31/2012 10:44:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:42:37 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:40:09 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Fema doesn't actually do any first response. The Red Cross and the state national guard units do the disaster relief.
If you aren't going to cut FEMA, just give their funds to the Red Cross or something.

You are mistaking the bad handling of Fema by George Bush as FEMA not doing anything. Go ask some of these Sandy Storm Victims after its all done if FEMA helped.

You just kind of read things and see what you want to see don't you?
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OberHerr
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10/31/2012 10:45:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:42:37 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:40:09 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Fema doesn't actually do any first response. The Red Cross and the state national guard units do the disaster relief.
If you aren't going to cut FEMA, just give their funds to the Red Cross or something.

You are mistaking the bad handling of Fema by George Bush as FEMA not doing anything. Go ask some of these Sandy Storm Victims after its all done if FEMA helped.

Of course its Bushs fault. Silly me.

*sigh*
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tyler90az
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10/31/2012 10:46:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:45:06 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:42:37 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:40:09 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Fema doesn't actually do any first response. The Red Cross and the state national guard units do the disaster relief.
If you aren't going to cut FEMA, just give their funds to the Red Cross or something.

You are mistaking the bad handling of Fema by George Bush as FEMA not doing anything. Go ask some of these Sandy Storm Victims after its all done if FEMA helped.

Of course its Bushs fault. Silly me.

*sigh*

He appointed the people who effed it up...... Did he not?
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OberHerr
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10/31/2012 10:47:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:46:07 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:45:06 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:42:37 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:40:09 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Fema doesn't actually do any first response. The Red Cross and the state national guard units do the disaster relief.
If you aren't going to cut FEMA, just give their funds to the Red Cross or something.

You are mistaking the bad handling of Fema by George Bush as FEMA not doing anything. Go ask some of these Sandy Storm Victims after its all done if FEMA helped.

Of course its Bushs fault. Silly me.

*sigh*

He appointed the people who effed it up...... Did he not?

So, we can blame Obama for Fast and Furious now?

And for all of his cabinets sucky choices?
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tyler90az
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10/31/2012 10:56:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
So, we can blame Obama for Fast and Furious now?

And for all of his cabinets sucky choices?

More accountability needs to be taken by all politicians.
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lewis20
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10/31/2012 10:58:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:46:07 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:45:06 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:42:37 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 10/31/2012 10:40:09 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Fema doesn't actually do any first response. The Red Cross and the state national guard units do the disaster relief.
If you aren't going to cut FEMA, just give their funds to the Red Cross or something.

You are mistaking the bad handling of Fema by George Bush as FEMA not doing anything. Go ask some of these Sandy Storm Victims after its all done if FEMA helped.

Of course its Bushs fault. Silly me.

*sigh*

He appointed the people who effed it up...... Did he not?

Obama re-appointed the exact same people...Did he not?
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10/31/2012 10:59:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:56:47 PM, tyler90az wrote:
So, we can blame Obama for Fast and Furious now?

And for all of his cabinets sucky choices?

More accountability needs to be taken by all politicians.

So we can?

Regardless, no, I don't think Bush can be blame for a badly handled situation in Katrina, for someone I'm not even sure he appointed.
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Khaos_Mage
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10/31/2012 11:09:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 10:24:03 PM, tyler90az wrote:
Why did Romney want to end FEMA?

When asked if that also meant disaster relief, Romney replied:

"We cannot " we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we"ll all be dead and gone before it"s paid off. It makes no sense at all."

Would more people be dead without FEMA? How bad of a cal was this by Romney?

Are you telling me that if FEMA was replaced with a similar program funded/operated by the individual states, more people would die?
If FEMA is so great, why was the national guard called in (a state agency called in by the governor)?
If government can handle it so well, why is the Red Cross involved?

I agree with Romney that FEMA should be largely on the states. There should still be a FEMA, but their role should be limited to interstate issues (like interstates, farmland clean up, etc.).

In MN the tax rate is 5.95%-7.85%, while the federal government is 10%-35%. If these rates were switched, the state would easily have the money necessary to fund a FEMA-type program.
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lewis20
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10/31/2012 11:12:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 11:09:35 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
In MN the tax rate is 5.95%-7.85%, while the federal government is 10%-35%. If these rates were switched, the state would easily have the money necessary to fund a FEMA-type program.

That's a great point.
If the states had a fraction of the money the Fed govt. got, that would solve a lot of problems.
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10/31/2012 11:13:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Calvin Coolidge did not sent relief aid to a flood during his time as president and he didn't end up so bad.
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10/31/2012 11:16:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/31/2012 11:12:22 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 10/31/2012 11:09:35 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
In MN the tax rate is 5.95%-7.85%, while the federal government is 10%-35%. If these rates were switched, the state would easily have the money necessary to fund a FEMA-type program.

That's a great point.
If the states had a fraction of the money the Fed govt. got, that would solve a lot of problems.

And this would lead to the shrinking of the federal government. Assuming all functions of government are maintained, this is still preferable as citizens would have more control over how money is being spent due to the more direct voting of governors and state congresses (i.e. more accountability).
My work here is, finally, done.