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Obama's First 9 Months

Xer
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10/4/2009 3:04:35 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Sums up how terrible of a President he is - whether you're Dem or GOP.

To be fair, he didn't do nothing - he has printed and spent trillions of dollars.
Rezzealaux
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10/4/2009 3:14:15 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
HAHA LOL OMG

yes, I sometimes wonder why the left isn't more pissed than the right too xD
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10/4/2009 4:13:27 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Ah, how the right-wing infects the boards....

Obama's first nine months haven't been bad. They haven't necessarily been good, but they haven't been bad. It is sort of middle-of-the-road bumpy.

Lets be serious; there are no major crises in the US right now from Obama's policies and ideas. The public option idea, while causing a stir, isn't creating riots in the streets. His continuation of the stimulus fund isn't that controversial, as most people either supported it, or don't care. His foreign policy has actually been pretty well done, and his approval ratings have continued along the path of almost every single president in history.

Man up, and just accept it; Obama isn't that bad of a President.
comoncents
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10/4/2009 4:17:52 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Holy crap that was funny...

one thing i like is the way he is handling Iran, (with diplomacy)

other then that.......... well, damn, he has not done anything.

He really is waiting for the right time... we should start seeing our socialist country in the middle of 2010, so he does not give conservatives an uprise and lose the house.

that is what i think.
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10/4/2009 4:23:52 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/4/2009 4:17:52 PM, comoncents wrote:
Holy crap that was funny...

one thing i like is the way he is handling Iran, (with diplomacy)

other then that.......... well, damn, he has not done anything.

He really is waiting for the right time... we should start seeing our socialist country in the middle of 2010, so he does not give conservatives an uprise and lose the house.

that is what i think.

Obama isn't a socialist. There isn't any way that the man is socialist. It would be akin to calling George W. Bush a pacifist, Reagan a liberal, and FDR an Objectivist.

Obama =/= socialist =/= socialist country.
comoncents
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10/4/2009 4:28:57 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/4/2009 4:23:52 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 10/4/2009 4:17:52 PM, comoncents wrote:
Holy crap that was funny...

one thing i like is the way he is handling Iran, (with diplomacy)

other then that.......... well, damn, he has not done anything.

He really is waiting for the right time... we should start seeing our socialist country in the middle of 2010, so he does not give conservatives an uprise and lose the house.

that is what i think.

Obama isn't a socialist. There isn't any way that the man is socialist. It would be akin to calling George W. Bush a pacifist, Reagan a liberal, and FDR an Objectivist.

Obama =/= socialist =/= socialist country.

It was more of a joke.... i don't think he is but everyone seems to think he will turn our country that way...

i was just meaning to assure everyone that he will begin to implement everything in the middle of 2010.
Volkov
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10/4/2009 4:32:50 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/4/2009 4:28:57 PM, comoncents wrote:
It was more of a joke.... i don't think he is but everyone seems to think he will turn our country that way...

They clearly don't know what socialism is then.

i was just meaning to assure everyone that he will begin to implement everything in the middle of 2010.

I would hope so. He'll have to, if he wants to retain at least majority control, if not filibuster-proof control, something I doubt he'll keep.

But, unlike some others here, I believe that the Democrats will maintain control of both Houses.
comoncents
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10/4/2009 4:40:24 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/4/2009 4:32:50 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 10/4/2009 4:28:57 PM, comoncents wrote:
It was more of a joke.... i don't think he is but everyone seems to think he will turn our country that way...

They clearly don't know what socialism is then.

I now...

i was just meaning to assure everyone that he will begin to implement everything in the middle of 2010.

I would hope so. He'll have to, if he wants to retain at least majority control, if not filibuster-proof control, something I doubt he'll keep.

yeah thats what i was trying to say.... it is smart of him to just set everything up and in 2010 have it put in like clock work.

But, unlike some others here, I believe that the Democrats will maintain control of both Houses.

I think they will, but it will be closer then some expect.

I see them losing a few seats...
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if he wins i think it would be a big blow... taking chris dobbs spot
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10/4/2009 6:03:36 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Why discuss politics in 9 month periods? Keep the government out of the part of our lives that that implies.
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10/4/2009 6:32:56 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Compared with George Bush whose first 9 months saw a researcher at a nuclear plant facing the death penalty a case of treason for accusedly selling trade secrets to China, George Bush accusing the Chinese of playing unfair for detaining a plane full of our spies that had been caught spying on them, getting his idiot friends into cushy jobs in charge of bureaucracies responsible for the well-being of a lot of people, completely ignoring security warnings from Clinton's team regarding the threat of al-Qaeda and completely ignoring, again, a much more specific warning of an imminent attack made in August of 2001. 9-11 happened and shortly thereafter promises were made that we would not stop until the terrorists reponsible -- eventually al-Qaeda and bin Laden were specifically named -- were brought to justice. While that sounds good, consider that a year or two before the end of his lame duck term, he declare bin Laden unimportant and victory in Iraq as the only thing important to America's security.

Bush came into office with a record budget surplus and his very first year he plunged it back into deficit spending, and he only got worse each succeeding year. He declared the exodus of factor jobs overseas as a good thing, and with the blessings of a Republican-controlled congress, proceeded to roll back reglatory controls over banks and other financial institutions to allow them a higher debt-to-capital ratio resulting in the late 2008 domino-effect collapse of some of the oldest financial instutions in the U.S., many of whom had been survivors of the Great Depression (I know Washington Mutual, for instance, dated back to the 1800s).

But, of course, there's no arguing with stupid who can't see that we have pulled back from the disaster caused by lasseiz-faire deregulation. The momentous plummet their conservative congressmen put the economy and the country on should be fixed immediately, not the long term as Obama had cautioned it would take when he was elected. I think they think the environment should be fixed in just a few months if it really got that bad, too, and its okay to destroy the nation or the environment because everything can be fixed overnight, right?
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10/4/2009 6:56:17 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/4/2009 6:32:56 PM, PervRat wrote:


Bush came into office with a record budget surplus and his very first year he plunged it back into deficit spending, and he only got worse each succeeding year. He declared the exodus of factor jobs overseas as a good thing, and with the blessings of a Republican-controlled congress, proceeded to roll back reglatory controls over banks and other financial institutions to allow them a higher debt-to-capital ratio resulting in the late 2008 domino-effect collapse of some of the oldest financial instutions in the U.S., many of whom had been survivors of the Great Depression (I know Washington Mutual, for instance, dated back to the 1800s).


per wjmelements
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10/20/2009 8:27:28 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
the first nine months shows that Obama was really, really good at running for office, but not competent virtual anything else. during the campaign hconvinced leftists he was the living embodiment of Mao and Lenin rolled into one, while at the same me he convinced moderates he was a middle of the roader and Republicans that maybe he wouldn't be worse than another Clinton, who they could work with. Now everyone is saying they didn't get what they thought they were promised. That's a stunning bit of campaigning.

He has surrounded himself with like-minded people, good at campaigning but not at governing. Breaking promis is not a problem, everyone knows that's part of campaigning. Now the question is whether he will ever get around to trying to govern. Clinton did a major reversal after a failed first two years in office and started working with Gingrich to get some things accomplished. The hope now is that Obama will take a similar turn, but it seems beyond him.

By this point in the Bush sidency he had pushed through the prescription medicine entitlement, king with Democrats over the opposition of many within his own Party.