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11/12/2012 4:22:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
http://news.yahoo.com...

The states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.....
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11/12/2012 4:29:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 4:22:33 PM, imabench wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

The states are Alabama

Not surprised

, Arkansas,

Not surprised

Colorado

THEN WHY THE F*CK DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM!?!?!??!

Florida

Read above

Georgia

Eh, not really surprised

Indiana

Tiny bit of a shocker but not really.

Kentucky

Not surprised

Louisiana

Not surprised

Michigan

o.O dafuq?

Mississippi

Not surprised.

Missouri

Wut?

Montana

Not surprised at all.

New Jersey

Da-fuq

New York

WHAT THE F*CK IS GOING ON!?!?!?

North Carolina

So-so.

North Dakota

Not surprised at all.

Oregon

Semi-surprised.

South Carolina

Not surprised.

Tennessee

Not surprised.

and Texas.....

Motherf*ckers...why does my home state have to be filled with a bunch of d*mn rednecks?
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11/12/2012 4:31:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 4:22:33 PM, imabench wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

The states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.....

The article states that similar petitions were created for George Bush in 2004, and that these are not uncommon. I think this is probably just a product of the "Obama is the devil" narrative that some on the extreme right have constructed for the past 4 years.
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11/12/2012 4:32:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'd love to see a state secede.
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11/12/2012 4:32:47 PM
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Favorite part of the article?

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11/12/2012 4:33:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 4:32:19 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I'd love to see a state secede.

Because civil wars and border disputes are such fun.
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11/12/2012 4:35:17 PM
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At 11/12/2012 4:32:19 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I'd love to see a state secede.

Haha seconded.
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11/12/2012 4:37:32 PM
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At 11/12/2012 4:33:16 PM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:32:19 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I'd love to see a state secede.

Because civil wars and border disputes are such fun.

Woah , civil war? Aren't we past this?
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11/12/2012 4:44:29 PM
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No one would fight a civil war
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11/12/2012 4:56:21 PM
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This sounds crazy, but now a day crazy is in!!

Texas could hold its own I'm sure, I would love this, only problem is military. This would be a thriving place.
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11/12/2012 5:14:01 PM
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I don't see where the military would be a problem.
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11/12/2012 5:14:47 PM
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At 11/12/2012 4:44:29 PM, lewis20 wrote:
No one would fight a civil war

I'm sure there are still some Northern immoral bloodsuckers and Southern inbred rednecks who'd take any excuse to murder each other. Sorry if I didn't insult Northerners correctly, I honestly don't know exactly what Southern people think of us.
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11/12/2012 5:20:41 PM
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At 11/12/2012 5:14:01 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I don't see where the military would be a problem.

I just don't think Texas military would be as strong. I would have to look at how many Texans enlist yearly. Although this kind of thing could cause a spike in that. Then again population would rise aswell. You might be right and in that case many people would have more passion in what they are fighting for. Hot dog we have a military! Lets do it!
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11/12/2012 6:01:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 4:22:33 PM, imabench wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

The states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.....

why no NH?
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11/12/2012 6:14:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 4:37:32 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:33:16 PM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:32:19 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I'd love to see a state secede.

Because civil wars and border disputes are such fun.

Woah , civil war? Aren't we past this?

No. Remember, many of the people who are in favor of seceding think the President's an evil socialist who wants to harm them. And I sincerely doubt the same individual who ordered the assassination of an American citizen would not:

1. Say 'no'.
2. React with force if said states attempted force to secede.

Oh, and even if they did secede peacefully, which I highly doubt, even though sometimes I'd like to cut off Florida, there would still be border disputes. Think West Virginia.
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11/12/2012 6:14:34 PM
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I've been against state secession my whole life, but after Obama's reelection, I really don't want to live under Obama's US police state, TSA highway checkpoints, and army reeducation camps.
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11/12/2012 6:16:15 PM
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At 11/12/2012 4:44:29 PM, lewis20 wrote:
No one would fight a civil war

Man OH man are you niave.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

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11/12/2012 6:17:26 PM
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At 11/12/2012 5:14:47 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:44:29 PM, lewis20 wrote:
No one would fight a civil war

I'm sure there are still some Northern immoral bloodsuckers and Southern inbred rednecks who'd take any excuse to murder each other. Sorry if I didn't insult Northerners correctly, I honestly don't know exactly what Southern people think of us.

Tyranny comes to mind
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

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11/12/2012 6:18:12 PM
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At 11/12/2012 4:33:16 PM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:32:19 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I'd love to see a state secede.

Because civil wars and border disputes are such fun.

A.) the States are the only ones with geographical jurisdiction.
B.) If the President tries to launch a Civil War he would be violating international law. The seceding state would gain global support, and the president would lose support from the US citizens leading to more states seceding. Things have changed since the Civil War; the President can't get away with that kind of tyranny anymore.
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11/12/2012 6:21:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 6:14:11 PM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:37:32 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:33:16 PM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:32:19 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I'd love to see a state secede.

Because civil wars and border disputes are such fun.

Woah , civil war? Aren't we past this?

No. Remember, many of the people who are in favor of seceding think the President's an evil socialist who wants to harm them. And I sincerely doubt the same individual who ordered the assassination of an American citizen would not:

1. Say 'no'.
2. React with force if said states attempted force to secede.


Oh, and even if they did secede peacefully, which I highly doubt, even though sometimes I'd like to cut off Florida, there would still be border disputes. Think West Virginia.

Why wouldn't it be peaceful? The only force would be the feds trying to stop them. I really don't see how that could happen, gonna stick the army on national guard armories in rural Texas towns?
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11/12/2012 6:21:43 PM
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I would be shocked if the peace loving hippies advocate a civil war to oppress seceding states, while opposing a foreign war to defend America from our enemies.
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11/12/2012 6:23:29 PM
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At 11/12/2012 6:16:15 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:44:29 PM, lewis20 wrote:
No one would fight a civil war

Man OH man are you niave.

What are you going to tell a kid in Indiana to make him shoot a kid in Texas?
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11/12/2012 6:23:33 PM
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At 11/12/2012 6:21:43 PM, DanT wrote:
I would be shocked if the peace loving hippies advocate a civil war to oppress seceding states, while opposing a foreign war to defend America from our enemies.

I wouldn't be shocked by the faulty logic, however. Just that pacifists are advocating an illegal war of oppression.
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11/12/2012 6:28:07 PM
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At 11/12/2012 6:14:34 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I've been against state secession my whole life, but after Obama's reelection, I really don't want to live under Obama's US police state, TSA highway checkpoints, and army reeducation camps.

Don't forget his graduating class of full time armed youth blue shirts. FEMA is now a millitary agency. DHS is ordering hundreds of millions of rounds of amunition and buying armoured millitayry vehicles.

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It's all good, nothing to worry about, it's for your own good and protection.
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11/12/2012 6:28:24 PM
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At 11/12/2012 5:14:47 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:44:29 PM, lewis20 wrote:
No one would fight a civil war

I'm sure there are still some Northern immoral bloodsuckers and Southern inbred rednecks who'd take any excuse to murder each other. Sorry if I didn't insult Northerners correctly, I honestly don't know exactly what Southern people think of us.

there was a civil war in 1860, so why not again during secession. What they'd have to do, is what America has always been doing pre-WWII, make it so that we'd do everything in our power to get the south to attack us, and then the northerns would attack.

But hey, Americas been using the justification of pre-emptive war to start wars now. There's still a ton of nukes down in the south but held on federal land. Which actually makes things more interesting.
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11/12/2012 6:29:50 PM
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This is the equivalent of a 5-year old kicking his feet because he didn't get a piece of candy. What did it take... 20 people to start this? LOL. Tell them if they aren't happy with the union they can smoke some weed and forget about it like the rest of us.
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11/12/2012 6:34:24 PM
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At 11/12/2012 6:16:15 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:44:29 PM, lewis20 wrote:
No one would fight a civil war

Man OH man are you niave.

Immigrants made up most of the northern army, and their number 1 reason for enlistment was to save America from dissolving. America wouldn't have dissolved but that's how the federal government spun it. Most "Natives" didn't enlist, and the rich bought their way out of the draft. The "Natives" who did enlist did so, so they could travel, not out of loyalty to the Union. In those days people rarely left their state.

The only people who would believe that BS these days, are not the type of people who are willing to enlist. They are the type of people who drop out of high-school because "it's boring", or try to mooch off the state with minimal effort.
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11/12/2012 6:35:46 PM
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At 11/12/2012 6:29:50 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
This is the equivalent of a 5-year old kicking his feet because he didn't get a piece of candy. What did it take... 20 people to start this? LOL. Tell them if they aren't happy with the union they can smoke some weed and forget about it like the rest of us.

That explains so much.
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