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Sidewalker
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11/18/2012 6:06:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
So far this year, Palestinian militants have fired over 1,400 rockets and mortar shells into heavily populated areas of the Israeli Gaza Strip; over half of them have been in the last 4 days. A few Israeli"s have been injured, but so far, there has not been a single Israeli casualty. What do they put in those rockets, confetti?

Seriously, I have seen news footage of large craters, completely leveled homes, etc., this has clearly been a serious attack targeting heavily populated areas, and so far it has not resulted in a single casualty. If their only objective was to inspire deadly retaliation from Israel, then it worked, but I don"t think that was what they were going for.

The question I have is; why do you suppose these rocket attacks have been so ineffective?
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11/18/2012 6:19:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The rockets can easily blast off lives. What repels their deadly blows is the Israeli military technology. The Iron Dome missile defense system can do away with most rockets headed toward Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org...
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11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq
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11/18/2012 7:10:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 6:19:48 PM, Mirza wrote:
The rockets can easily blast off lives. What repels their deadly blows is the American
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military technology. The Iron Dome missile defense system can do away with most rockets headed toward Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org...
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11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.
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11/18/2012 7:14:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:10:23 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 6:19:48 PM, Mirza wrote:
The rockets can easily blast off lives. What repels their deadly blows is the American
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Americans generally sponsor the Iron Dome today. Israelis developed it. Now, I'll bring you the door so you can get out of here.
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11/18/2012 7:16:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 6:06:44 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
So far this year, Palestinian militants have fired over 1,400 rockets and mortar shells into heavily populated areas of the Israeli Gaza Strip; over half of them have been in the last 4 days. A few Israeli"s have been injured, but so far, there has not been a single Israeli casualty. What do they put in those rockets, confetti?

Seriously, I have seen news footage of large craters, completely leveled homes, etc., this has clearly been a serious attack targeting heavily populated areas, and so far it has not resulted in a single casualty. If their only objective was to inspire deadly retaliation from Israel, then it worked, but I don"t think that was what they were going for.

The question I have is; why do you suppose these rocket attacks have been so ineffective?

For the same reason children throwing stones over fences rarely hit what they're aiming for, except in this case the target is miles away. They're essentially firing blind.
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11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend
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11/18/2012 7:25:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 6:19:48 PM, Mirza wrote:
The rockets can easily blast off lives. What repels their deadly blows is the Israeli military technology. The Iron Dome missile defense system can do away with most rockets headed toward Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org...

US $90,000 per missile
US $50 million per battery

Why cut costs when you steal your money from citizens?
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11/18/2012 7:27:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their war.

Fix'd
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11/18/2012 7:28:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:25:18 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
US $90,000 per missile
US $50 million per battery

Why cut costs when you steal your money from citizens?
Not sure Ma'am. Here, ask the government: http://www.whitehouse.gov... And have a nice day on top of that.
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11/18/2012 7:28:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:25:18 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 11/18/2012 6:19:48 PM, Mirza wrote:
The rockets can easily blast off lives. What repels their deadly blows is the Israeli military technology. The Iron Dome missile defense system can do away with most rockets headed toward Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org...

US $90,000 per missile
US $50 million per battery

Why cut costs when you steal your money from citizens?

If the citizens didn't want their money taken they would grab power. But they don't! Because the majority is for taxing.
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11/18/2012 7:30:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:28:58 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:25:18 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 11/18/2012 6:19:48 PM, Mirza wrote:
The rockets can easily blast off lives. What repels their deadly blows is the Israeli military technology. The Iron Dome missile defense system can do away with most rockets headed toward Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org...

US $90,000 per missile
US $50 million per battery

Why cut costs when you steal your money from citizens?

If the citizens didn't want their money taken they would grab power. But they don't! Because the majority is for taxing.

Yeah....no.
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11/18/2012 7:32:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:30:33 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:28:58 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:25:18 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 11/18/2012 6:19:48 PM, Mirza wrote:
The rockets can easily blast off lives. What repels their deadly blows is the Israeli military technology. The Iron Dome missile defense system can do away with most rockets headed toward Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org...

US $90,000 per missile
US $50 million per battery

Why cut costs when you steal your money from citizens?

If the citizens didn't want their money taken they would grab power. But they don't! Because the majority is for taxing.

Yeah....no.

Shut up.
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11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?

You guys demonized Malcolm X for teaching people how to defend themselves too.
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11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.
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11/18/2012 7:35:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:33:11 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:32:02 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
Shut up.
Exact words by the government when citizens ask for lower taxes!

They have free access to guns (my country does anyway) so they can easily grab power if they chose, and they vote for people who are for higher taxes. People's fault.
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11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.
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11/18/2012 7:40:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:35:50 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
They have free access to guns (my country does anyway) so they can easily grab power if they chose,
No, they can't. The motivation for doing something complex like that must be very high and determined, otherwise it will never work. Nobody would start a civil-war revolution to change something that can be changed every few years with peaceful politics.

and they vote for people who are for higher taxes. People's fault.
But they don't only vote for these people due to the fact that the are for higher taxes!
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11/18/2012 7:44:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.

Because we, as a society, prefer non-violence. Israel wanted to be non-violent, but were provoked too much by the Arab tormentors.
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11/18/2012 7:44:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.

Tell me who stopped the oppression of black people.

Tell me, what worked better, Indians revolting, or Ghandi?

The problem with Israel is that their oppressors have rejected basically all proposals besides "complete surrender".
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11/18/2012 7:45:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Or maybe because Hama's is nothing but a bunch of thugs who always do the 'Hitler salute', teach their children to blow themselves up, and they are largely supported by terrorist networks such as Helbullah and Iran.

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.

I don't really care about neither. Though, I do agree with Malcom X. I do see racism in this area.
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11/18/2012 7:47:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:44:35 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.

Tell me who stopped the oppression of black people.

Tell me, what worked better, Indians revolting, or Ghandi?

The problem with Israel is that their oppressors have rejected basically all proposals besides "complete surrender".

Israel isn't being oppressed by anyone.
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11/18/2012 7:48:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:44:10 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.

Because we, as a society, prefer non-violence. Israel wanted to be non-violent, but were provoked too much by the Arab tormentors.

This is malarkey. The United States tortures people, has black sites, has openly committed genocide, has put down rebellions in the US with violence, has arranged hundreds of political assassinations of democratically elected leaders for the crime of being leftist, has had a popular "Red Scare" in which people suspected of being communist were murdered for their political beliefs, etc.

Israel never wanted to be nonviolent. It conducts "preemptive" attacks to provoke people, and the very act of colonizing somebody else's land and bulldozing his or her home is violent. Israel is the very definition of a violent regime.
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11/18/2012 7:49:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:40:10 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:50 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
They have free access to guns (my country does anyway) so they can easily grab power if they chose,
No, they can't. The motivation for doing something complex like that must be very high and determined, otherwise it will never work. Nobody would start a civil-war revolution to change something that can be changed every few years with peaceful politics.
Then that is their choice. And therefore, taxes are not theft if they allow it.

and they vote for people who are for higher taxes. People's fault.
But they don't only vote for these people due to the fact that the are for higher taxes!

That is people's choice. If they didn't want taxes they would vote for someone who is against taxing or agree to use force against the government.
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Matthew 10:22- "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
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11/18/2012 7:49:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:47:36 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:44:35 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.

Tell me who stopped the oppression of black people.

Tell me, what worked better, Indians revolting, or Ghandi?

The problem with Israel is that their oppressors have rejected basically all proposals besides "complete surrender".

Israel isn't being oppressed by anyone.

If you forget about the entirety of the Middle East, then yes, thats true.
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11/18/2012 7:49:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:47:36 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:44:35 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.

Tell me who stopped the oppression of black people.

Tell me, what worked better, Indians revolting, or Ghandi?

The problem with Israel is that their oppressors have rejected basically all proposals besides "complete surrender".

Israel isn't being oppressed by anyone.

Weekly Stupid Statement...

But seriously, they are being oppressed by neighbors in the Middle East who won't. Even acknowledge their existence.
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11/18/2012 7:51:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/18/2012 7:48:22 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:44:10 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:37:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:35:39 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:33:47 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:16:28 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:10:53 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 11/18/2012 7:02:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Rockets aren't accurate, iron dome can intercept the rockets, the only thing I've heard is that they're trying to get Israel to invade.
The rockets aren't getting anybody, Israeli airstikes are though, Israel even took out a press hq

Yeah, to coverup their atrocities.

I really don't want to get too far in this argument, but, here is my take.

The Palestinians/Arab Allies of the Palestineans started almost every war in the Israeli area in the 20th and 21st century. Israel is exercising its right to self-defend

Where is the Palestinian right to defend against colonizers? Are non-whites not supposed to have the right to self-defense?


Stop acting like there is an racist motives behind this to supposedly "further" your cause. It just makes you sound like more of a @$$hole.

There are racist motivations behind this. I bet the vast majority of people who support Israel support it because the people in it are Jews returning to the "Jewish homeland".

Explain why Malcolm X was demonized for teaching African Americans karate so that they could defend themselves while Martin Luther King, who told them to take beatings and bullets from their oppressors, is glorified.

Because we, as a society, prefer non-violence. Israel wanted to be non-violent, but were provoked too much by the Arab tormentors.

This is malarkey. The United States tortures people, has black sites, has openly committed genocide, has put down rebellions in the US with violence, has arranged hundreds of political assassinations of democratically elected leaders for the crime of being leftist, has had a popular "Red Scare" in which people suspected of being communist were murdered for their political beliefs, etc.


What? Proof, proof proof, proof, and proof plox?! And, what, we should just allow rebellions to continue, unchallenged?

Israel never wanted to be nonviolent. It conducts "preemptive" attacks to provoke people, and the very act of colonizing somebody else's land and bulldozing his or her home is violent. Israel is the very definition of a violent regime.

Define a violent regime.
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