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11/21/2012 11:00:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
"Just when you thought it was impossible for surveillance to get any creepier, a company has announced it has created mannequins with cameras installed inside that can be used to spy on shoppers and record their conversations " and that they"ve already been rolled out at numerous fashion stores across the world."
-- Paul Joseph Watson

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11/21/2012 11:03:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 11:00:21 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"Just when you thought it was impossible for surveillance to get any creepier, a company has announced it has created mannequins with cameras installed inside that can be used to spy on shoppers and record their conversations " and that they"ve already been rolled out at numerous fashion stores across the world."
-- Paul Joseph Watson

http://www.infowars.com...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
http://www.bloomberg.com...

Cool! As long as the mannequin can't press any charges once I have my way with her...
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11/21/2012 11:11:57 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
The "skeptics" in denial will still say "nope, nope, Orwellian fascist state is a conspiracy theory, it's not real and will never happen."

Guess what, everything you type on Facebook goes into a CIA database, everything you type in Google goes into an NSA database, OnStar tracks your location and records every word even after deactivated, every word on your smartphone is no longer private, 30,000 domestic spy drones have been approved with some already deployed, police can read everything on your phone, your phone GPS reveals your every location, every email is accessable and searchable without warrant.

Even the Director of the CIA is being watched by Big Brother.
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11/21/2012 11:49:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 11:11:57 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
The "skeptics" in denial will still say "nope, nope, Orwellian fascist state is a conspiracy theory, it's not real and will never happen."

Guess what, everything you type on Facebook goes into a CIA database, everything you type in Google goes into an NSA database, OnStar tracks your location and records every word even after deactivated, every word on your smartphone is no longer private, 30,000 domestic spy drones have been approved with some already deployed, police can read everything on your phone, your phone GPS reveals your every location, every email is accessable and searchable without warrant.

Even the Director of the CIA is being watched by Big Brother.

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11/21/2012 12:28:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 11:49:42 AM, Microsuck wrote:
People like you, Alex Jones, and the crazy religious fascist from http://jesus-is-savior.com... make me embaressed to be a Libertarian.

Drop the ad hominem bullsh!t and refute my facts or gtfo. Everything I listed is true.

You pride yourself on being an ignorant Libertarian who has no knowledge. You act like a Paul supporter, yet you clearly don't understand their message. By the way, Ron and Rand are NOT embarrassed by Alex Jones, they have been friends Alex for over a decade. Ron Paul owes and acknowledges Alex Jones base for making up half of all his 2012 campaign contributions. Rand Paul even called out Alex Jones by name saying that he learned about Bilderberg from Alex Jones.

Rand Paul just released a video about 1984 Orwellian fascist state. Get with the program. You are a fraud, not a Libertarian.
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11/21/2012 12:43:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 12:28:21 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 11/21/2012 11:49:42 AM, Microsuck wrote:
People like you, Alex Jones, and the crazy religious fascist from http://jesus-is-savior.com... make me embaressed to be a Libertarian.

Drop the ad hominem bullsh!t and refute my facts or gtfo. Everything I listed is true.

You didn't even back up your statements. Where's the evidence that our information from Google and Facebook is going to the CIA? (from a reliable source, aka not infowars)

You pride yourself on being an ignorant Libertarian who has no knowledge. You act like a Paul supporter, yet you clearly don't understand their message. By the way, Ron and Rand are NOT embarrassed by Alex Jones, they have been friends Alex for over a decade. Ron Paul owes and acknowledges Alex Jones base for making up half of all his 2012 campaign contributions. Rand Paul even called out Alex Jones by name saying that he learned about Bilderberg from Alex Jones.

Rand Paul just released a video about 1984 Orwellian fascist state. Get with the program. You are a fraud, not a Libertarian.
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11/21/2012 1:19:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 12:43:18 PM, darkkermit wrote:
You didn't even back up your statements.

I thought it was pretty non-controversial fact. What's next, do I have to back up with sources the claim that Israel is bombing Gaza? "Oh noes, I ne3d source, t2o unbeleevable!"

Where's the evidence that our information from Google and Facebook is going to the CIA?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz...
http://www.usatoday.com...
http://www.wired.com...
http://english.pravda.ru...

(from a reliable source, aka not infowars)

Infowars is one of the most reliable sources possible. You are an idiot if you think otherwise.
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11/21/2012 2:51:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 11:11:57 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
The "skeptics" in denial will still say "nope, nope, Orwellian fascist state is a conspiracy theory, it's not real and will never happen."

Guess what, everything you type on Facebook goes into a CIA database, everything you type in Google goes into an NSA database, OnStar tracks your location and records every word even after deactivated, every word on your smartphone is no longer private, 30,000 domestic spy drones have been approved with some already deployed, police can read everything on your phone, your phone GPS reveals your every location, every email is accessable and searchable without warrant.

Even the Director of the CIA is being watched by Big Brother.

Why did the CIA get Favebook and the NSA got Google? Did the NSA get first pick?
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11/21/2012 5:55:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
@royalpaladin

Don't bring up irrelevant crap in my threads. THIS is the thread you should have responded in, not my Rothschild one.

At 11/21/2012 12:28:21 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Rand Paul even called out Alex Jones by name saying that he learned about Bilderberg from Alex Jones.
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11/21/2012 6:02:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 12:44:11 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Btw, the onion isn't real

The Onion is one of the most reputable news sources in the United States. You watch your tongue.
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11/21/2012 6:02:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 5:55:04 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
@royalpaladin

Don't bring up irrelevant crap in my threads. THIS is the thread you should have responded in, not my Rothschild one.

At 11/21/2012 12:28:21 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Rand Paul even called out Alex Jones by name saying that he learned about Bilderberg from Alex Jones.



You do realize that Alex Jones' supporters hate Rand Paul now?
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11/21/2012 6:12:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 6:02:42 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
You do realize that Alex Jones' supporters hate Rand Paul now?

Rand Paul was just cited twice in a positive light on Infowars today.

Yeah, some are still pissed at his Romney endorsement, I also dropped support for Rand when that happened. But I very quickly realized why he did that and that it was necessary and I expect others to finally regain support as I have. In a year, they will all be praising Rand and will forgive and forget that minor incident, I already see it happening now.
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11/22/2012 3:17:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 11:00:21 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"Just when you thought it was impossible for surveillance to get any creepier, a company has announced it has created mannequins with cameras installed inside that can be used to spy on shoppers and record their conversations " and that they"ve already been rolled out at numerous fashion stores across the world."
-- Paul Joseph Watson

http://www.infowars.com...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
http://www.bloomberg.com...

Is there a problem?
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11/22/2012 3:19:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 1:19:54 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 11/21/2012 12:43:18 PM, darkkermit wrote:
You didn't even back up your statements.

I thought it was pretty non-controversial fact. What's next, do I have to back up with sources the claim that Israel is bombing Gaza? "Oh noes, I ne3d source, t2o unbeleevable!"

Where's the evidence that our information from Google and Facebook is going to the CIA?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz...
http://www.usatoday.com...
http://www.wired.com...
http://english.pravda.ru...


(from a reliable source, aka not infowars)

Infowars is one of the most reliable sources possible. You are an idiot if you think otherwise.

From your USAtoday source.

"The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans " most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations."
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11/22/2012 3:23:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/22/2012 3:19:54 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 11/21/2012 1:19:54 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 11/21/2012 12:43:18 PM, darkkermit wrote:
You didn't even back up your statements.

I thought it was pretty non-controversial fact. What's next, do I have to back up with sources the claim that Israel is bombing Gaza? "Oh noes, I ne3d source, t2o unbeleevable!"

Where's the evidence that our information from Google and Facebook is going to the CIA?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz...
http://www.usatoday.com...
http://www.wired.com...
http://english.pravda.ru...


(from a reliable source, aka not infowars)

Infowars is one of the most reliable sources possible. You are an idiot if you think otherwise.

From your USAtoday source.

"The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans " most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations."

It should also be noted that the telecommunications companies all agreed to it. I believe that is all perfectly legit in the free market. You signed into a contract with the telecommunication company that they would be allowed to collect data and do with it whatever they want, including giving it to the government. If you don't like that, don't sign into the contract.
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11/22/2012 8:22:07 AM
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What Ore_Ele said. Geo, I don't think anyone can deny that what you're saying is true (though I do think most people don't care, as they don't feel threatened by the surveillance despite how creepy or immoral it may be). I don't know why that other person posted a facepalm. It's true that everything we do gets documented and recorded. It's true that the government has or can easily have access to this information. It's unclear to what extent it can and will be used against us. But despite all that, what you propose as an alternative - a voluntary free market society - can (and does) employ these policies. If you don't want the CIA to see what you post on Facebook, don't use Facebook. Don't use Google. Don't use OnStar. Don't have a smartphone. SpyDrones are the most controversial thing on your list, but as for everything else, unless the government DEMANDED access then it's nothing more than a free market compromise. It's naive to think a free market suddenly means complete freedom and liberty. No, it means you have the liberty to voluntarily give up your liberty by choosing to utilize certain goods and services. Also, while I'm the last person you'd expect to make the "But it keeps us safer!" argument, it IS true that surveillance deters crime, plain and simple. Still, I wouldn't want it... but I would want to give up my political rants on Facebook less :)

By the way, I was already contacted by a friend and told that I was being monitored along with her and others because we posted anti-military sentiments on Facebook lol. I'm sure that's true, and it completely sucks, but I'm not terribly concerned.
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11/22/2012 9:52:15 AM
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You're already being spied on in almost every store you go in to, and have been for roughly 10-15 years. You're in their store, which means there is no expectation of privacy (except for changing rooms and restrooms). Is it creepy how far some companies will go to make a buck? Sure. Is it illegal? No.

As for the Google caches, it's one more reason I don't like them and try to avoid them by using different search engines. Some friends of mine refuse to even use YouTube because they were bought out by Google.

Has the CIA/NSA/FBI/DIA attempted to subpoena their caches to track or monitor some people? Probably.
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11/22/2012 10:24:35 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/22/2012 8:22:07 AM, Danielle wrote:
By the way, I was already contacted by a friend and told that I was being monitored along with her and others because we posted anti-military sentiments on Facebook lol. I'm sure that's true, and it completely sucks, but I'm not terribly concerned.

Just for some condolence, they monitor whatever page on the internet has certain key words, just to be sure. I mean, if they happen to run across a page that has people plotting to bomb somewhere......I'm sure thats happened, hence the policy. And I'm sure your one of bajillions they monitor for a little while if they get the key words from you.
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11/22/2012 2:55:16 PM
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I'm not sure why a libertarian would be opposed to this. These are cameras set up by the shops themselves. Under a free market, they absolutely have the right to do that.
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11/22/2012 3:00:30 PM
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At 11/22/2012 8:22:07 AM, Danielle wrote:
What Ore_Ele said. Geo, I don't think anyone can deny that what you're saying is true (though I do think most people don't care, as they don't feel threatened by the surveillance despite how creepy or immoral it may be). I don't know why that other person posted a facepalm. It's true that everything we do gets documented and recorded. It's true that the government has or can easily have access to this information. It's unclear to what extent it can and will be used against us. But despite all that, what you propose as an alternative - a voluntary free market society - can (and does) employ these policies. If you don't want the CIA to see what you post on Facebook, don't use Facebook. Don't use Google. Don't use OnStar. Don't have a smartphone. SpyDrones are the most controversial thing on your list, but as for everything else, unless the government DEMANDED access then it's nothing more than a free market compromise. It's naive to think a free market suddenly means complete freedom and liberty. No, it means you have the liberty to voluntarily give up your liberty by choosing to utilize certain goods and services. Also, while I'm the last person you'd expect to make the "But it keeps us safer!" argument, it IS true that surveillance deters crime, plain and simple. Still, I wouldn't want it... but I would want to give up my political rants on Facebook less :)

By the way, I was already contacted by a friend and told that I was being monitored along with her and others because we posted anti-military sentiments on Facebook lol. I'm sure that's true, and it completely sucks, but I'm not terribly concerned.

Isn't that similar to "If you don't like paying taxes, move?"
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11/22/2012 3:04:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/22/2012 8:22:41 AM, Danielle wrote:
I do think customers should be informed which stores have these cameras though, but that's me.

Though nearly every single company has security cameras on the ceilings and walls. Does there really need to be a disclaimer if the camera is in a mannequin instead of a wall?
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11/22/2012 3:04:40 PM
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At 11/22/2012 3:00:30 PM, tulle wrote:

Isn't that similar to "If you don't like paying taxes, move?"

I mean, I know you're not "forced" to use any of those things but not using them makes life a lot more difficult. Similarly, you're not "forced" to live in a place where you pay taxes but moving somewhere else, especially to a country that doesn't enforce taxes, is a lot more difficult.
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11/22/2012 3:05:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/22/2012 3:00:30 PM, tulle wrote:
At 11/22/2012 8:22:07 AM, Danielle wrote:
What Ore_Ele said. Geo, I don't think anyone can deny that what you're saying is true (though I do think most people don't care, as they don't feel threatened by the surveillance despite how creepy or immoral it may be). I don't know why that other person posted a facepalm. It's true that everything we do gets documented and recorded. It's true that the government has or can easily have access to this information. It's unclear to what extent it can and will be used against us. But despite all that, what you propose as an alternative - a voluntary free market society - can (and does) employ these policies. If you don't want the CIA to see what you post on Facebook, don't use Facebook. Don't use Google. Don't use OnStar. Don't have a smartphone. SpyDrones are the most controversial thing on your list, but as for everything else, unless the government DEMANDED access then it's nothing more than a free market compromise. It's naive to think a free market suddenly means complete freedom and liberty. No, it means you have the liberty to voluntarily give up your liberty by choosing to utilize certain goods and services. Also, while I'm the last person you'd expect to make the "But it keeps us safer!" argument, it IS true that surveillance deters crime, plain and simple. Still, I wouldn't want it... but I would want to give up my political rants on Facebook less :)

By the way, I was already contacted by a friend and told that I was being monitored along with her and others because we posted anti-military sentiments on Facebook lol. I'm sure that's true, and it completely sucks, but I'm not terribly concerned.

Isn't that similar to "If you don't like paying taxes, move?"

Except that facebook, google, etc are privately owned companies.
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