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inferno
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11/27/2012 9:41:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is the epic reponse that Fox News golden child revealed to the world.
Do you really wanna know the truth. If so, then this video here just might open your eyes. Because the message is best served when it is from the horse mouth.
Any comments you wanna share with us today. =)
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11/27/2012 10:36:25 AM
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Unless the Republicans change their positions on immigration and social issues, they are screwed. If Texas goes purple within the decade, the party is doomed and likely the Libertarians will replace them.
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11/27/2012 10:39:08 AM
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I think O'Reilly is right. The majority of people want stuff and the Democrats are gong to keep winning on that premise. It will continue until the economy collapses, as played out in Europe. I think it will take quite a while for the US. As the economy is gradually choked to death, there will be times when the gag is released to keep the patient alive, before they get back to killing it.

Republicans won't go extinct. There will always be a minority that believes in free enterprise, and they are not going to ever switch to new socialism. I think the Republicans will focus on the red states, now Texas prospers as California dies. Killing successful states will be a priority for the Feds.
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11/27/2012 10:45:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 10:39:08 AM, RoyLatham wrote:
I think O'Reilly is right. The majority of people want stuff and the Democrats are gong to keep winning on that premise. It will continue until the economy collapses, as played out in Europe. I think it will take quite a while for the US. As the economy is gradually choked to death, there will be times when the gag is released to keep the patient alive, before they get back to killing it.

Republicans won't go extinct. There will always be a minority that believes in free enterprise, and they are not going to ever switch to new socialism. I think the Republicans will focus on the red states, now Texas prospers as California dies. Killing successful states will be a priority for the Feds.

But you realize that this all was inevitable. Its not Obamas fault. Our culture is everchanging, and so are the many ideologies of the American people.
So you cant call this multi-culturalism when we are all created equal and are human beings. That is such an oxymoronic thing to say. Know what I mean. =)
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11/27/2012 10:48:26 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 10:36:25 AM, Mr_Anon wrote:
Unless the Republicans change their positions on immigration and social issues, they are screwed. If Texas goes purple within the decade, the party is doomed and likely the Libertarians will replace them.

If Republicans change their positions on immigration and social issues, they will be leaps and bounds ahead of the Liberal, Communo-Fascist, socialist, I-like-stealing-and-free-stuff poverty, food stamp loving, balanced budget-hating, gay marriage above all, statist Democrats.

If Republicans change on social issues, they won't be taken over by Libertarians, they will become Libertarians.
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11/27/2012 10:54:10 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 10:48:26 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 11/27/2012 10:36:25 AM, Mr_Anon wrote:
Unless the Republicans change their positions on immigration and social issues, they are screwed. If Texas goes purple within the decade, the party is doomed and likely the Libertarians will replace them.

If Republicans change their positions on immigration and social issues, they will be leaps and bounds ahead of the Liberal, Communo-Fascist, socialist, I-like-stealing-and-free-stuff poverty, food stamp loving, balanced budget-hating, gay marriage above all, statist Democrats.

If Republicans change on social issues, they won't be taken over by Libertarians, they will become Libertarians.

If you think that these issues are Liberal oriented only, then you must truly be the dumbest Man in the entire universe..................
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11/27/2012 11:39:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 10:48:26 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If Republicans change their positions on immigration and social issues, they will be leaps and bounds ahead of the Liberal, Communo-Fascist, socialist, I-like-stealing-and-free-stuff poverty, food stamp loving, balanced budget-hating, gay marriage above all, statist Democrats.

Hyperbolic retardedness.

1. Liberals are not communists.
2. 'Fascist' is an essentially contested term but doesn't describe the Liberals under any reasonable interpretation.
3. Helping the poor out of poverty has a broad range of benefits for society. See: http://www.amazon.co.uk...
4. I don't know how the food stamps system works in America. In the UK we just give people enough money to stay afloat if prove that they are looking for work. Our unemployment rate is about the same as yours (a bit better actually). http://en.wikipedia.org...
5. Gay marriage is an important rights issue. But most of the Democratic campaign was about the economy, not gay marriage. Strawman.
6. The state can be a powerful force for good. It can correct market failures. It can discourage discrimination. It can do the opposite, but there's nothing inherently bad about the state.

If republicans change on social issues, they won't be taken over by Libertarians, they will become Libertarians.

Interesting point. The republicans aren't as near to Libertarians on the economy as some people think though.
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11/27/2012 11:58:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 9:41:11 AM, inferno wrote:
This is the epic reponse that Fox News golden child revealed to the world.
Do you really wanna know the truth. If so, then this video here just might open your eyes. Because the message is best served when it is from the horse mouth.
Any comments you wanna share with us today. =)



O'R says that the demographics are changing and the blacks, mexicans, and women want "things" and will vote for those that give them "things".

That is just more right winged propaganda aimed at appeasing their base. Ironically they need to expand their base.

First and foremost the right assumes that anyone who votes for a democrat is looking for free handouts. Until they loose that overly simplistic view of the world, they will continue missing the boat.
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11/27/2012 12:12:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 11:58:06 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 11/27/2012 9:41:11 AM, inferno wrote:
This is the epic reponse that Fox News golden child revealed to the world.
Do you really wanna know the truth. If so, then this video here just might open your eyes. Because the message is best served when it is from the horse mouth.
Any comments you wanna share with us today. =)



O'R says that the demographics are changing and the blacks, mexicans, and women want "things" and will vote for those that give them "things".

That is just more right winged propaganda aimed at appeasing their base. Ironically they need to expand their base.

First and foremost the right assumes that anyone who votes for a democrat is looking for free handouts. Until they loose that overly simplistic view of the world, they will continue missing the boat.

Quite an unvarnished truth. And just to think much of the so called Evangelical base is already on some form of Goverment assistance program.
Hypocrisy at its finest. When will these idiots learn.
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11/27/2012 12:27:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 11:39:51 AM, Kinesis wrote:
Hyperbolic retardedness.

1. Liberals are not communists.

They support redistribution of wealth and strong central authority. Sounds like Communism.

2. 'Fascist' is an essentially contested term but doesn't describe the Liberals under any reasonable interpretation.

Liberals support cap & trade, dictating morality, stealing prosperity, taking property, crushing business, and eugenics based healthcare.

3. Helping the poor out of poverty has a broad range of benefits for society. See: http://www.amazon.co.uk...

As Romney rightly said, it's more compassionate to get people off of foodstamps than to put people on foodstamps. The best way to decrease poverty is to have a free market. Government control of distributing wealth always results in destitution.

If you gut the middle class to give to the poor, everyone just ends up poor and no one is prosperous.

4. I don't know how the food stamps system works in America. In the UK we just give people enough money to stay afloat if prove that they are looking for work. Our unemployment rate is about the same as yours (a bit better actually). http://en.wikipedia.org...

Under Obama, people on foodstamps have reached record numbers. Foodstamps are a symbol of poverty, not wealth. People become dependent on them, and no they don't have to prove anything about work to be on them.

5. Gay marriage is an important rights issue.

Gay marriage is not a rights issue, gay marriage is: "i want my sexual orientation to have government benefits that single people don't get."

Gays have the same rights as everybody else.

But most of the Democratic campaign was about the economy, not gay marriage. Strawman.

Gay marriage has always been a central issue on the Democratic platform. Democrats didn't vote for Romney because of his stance on gay marriage, binders of women, ending free handouts, food stamps, and abortion. And that's what irks me about Liberals.

Liberals made their message heard loud and clear this election: Strip all my freedoms away, eliminate the 2nd, 4th, & 6th Amendment, drone bomb thousands of innocent women and children, send more young men to die in multiplying wars, indefinitely detain me without trial, assassinate me, destroy the dollars in my wallet, destroy the economy, hurt small business, lay off more workers by raising the cost of employment via Obamacare, add 6 trillion to the debt, take my tax dollars and give it to rich bankers, foreign regimes, and Al Queda terrorists, increase the surveillance state, molest and radiate me at the airport, set up TSA checkpoints on highways, and approve 30,000 domestic spy drones, just please give us our gay marriage, student loans, and food stamps.

That right there is the Liberal sentiment. You think that's an exaggeration? I have video proof.

6. The state can be a powerful force for good. It can correct market failures. It can discourage discrimination. It can do the opposite, but there's nothing inherently bad about the state.

Thats why I'm not an Anarchist. I support the government, a government to perform essential tasks like infrastructure, law, courts, and defense. The government should not be in our personal lives and it should not interfere with the free market with subsidies, excessive taxes, and overregulation.

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11/27/2012 12:34:24 PM
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Indeed it is the case that the GOP finds itself at a critical juncture between pleasing those who are not working to upper class white men, and working to upper class white men. Perhaps it is the case that the Paul Ryan-Michelle Bachman-Rick Santorum sh!t show will emerge victoriously. Surely, this will extinguish the GOP from existence. And yet, equally could be the case that the GOP absorbs the libertarians of the present and incorporates them into the Republican Party of tomorrow. Yes, this is permissible. No, it isn't likely. Unavoidably, it will be a change that if it comes will be met with considerable opposition by those righteously indignant jesuits that once haunted the fringe of conservatism -but found themselves comfortably in the main stream as the Republican Primary ushered a crisis of leadership unlike any it had seen before, and with it a challenge that it has all too familiar. Ah, how reminiscent 2008 was of 1964; so emerges the challenge between the center of the party and it's edge, the chasm between Rockafellar Republicanism and AuH2O. Perhaps the fools on stage thought that Paul Ryan could court the GOP "base" with it's supposed values that involve regulating female bodies, restricting what male bodies can do to male bodies -even where both consent- and limiting stringently the rights of those who for whatever reason had the genetic misfortune of being homosexuals. Let us not forget those who had the equally damning misfortune of having been born something other than white! Alas, it would seem that wether those are the values of the "base" or not -they are surely not the values of America. For that, we are grateful.
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11/27/2012 1:18:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 12:34:24 PM, YYW wrote:
Indeed it is the case that the GOP finds itself at a critical juncture between pleasing those who are not working to upper class white men, and working to upper class white men. Perhaps it is the case that the Paul Ryan-Michelle Bachman-Rick Santorum sh!t show will emerge victoriously. Surely, this will extinguish the GOP from existence. And yet, equally could be the case that the GOP absorbs the libertarians of the present and incorporates them into the Republican Party of tomorrow. Yes, this is permissible. No, it isn't likely. Unavoidably, it will be a change that if it comes will be met with considerable opposition by those righteously indignant jesuits that once haunted the fringe of conservatism -but found themselves comfortably in the main stream as the Republican Primary ushered a crisis of leadership unlike any it had seen before, and with it a challenge that it has all too familiar. Ah, how reminiscent 2008 was of 1964; so emerges the challenge between the center of the party and it's edge, the chasm between Rockafellar Republicanism and AuH2O. Perhaps the fools on stage thought that Paul Ryan could court the GOP "base" with it's supposed values that involve regulating female bodies, restricting what male bodies can do to male bodies -even where both consent- and limiting stringently the rights of those who for whatever reason had the genetic misfortune of being homosexuals. Let us not forget those who had the equally damning misfortune of having been born something other than white! Alas, it would seem that wether those are the values of the "base" or not -they are surely not the values of America. For that, we are grateful.

The underlying tone seems to be communist at best.
But the GOP needs to get away from this homgenetic frame of mind and learn how to cope with diversity. Let alone embrace it.
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11/27/2012 1:39:20 PM
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The public still thinks the economy is doing okay with current policies.

Republicans won't win another election till this perception changes. (likely an inflationary period)
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11/27/2012 1:42:41 PM
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At 11/27/2012 1:39:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
The public still thinks the economy is doing okay with current policies.

Republicans won't win another election till this perception changes. (likely an inflationary period)

I agree. And yes, people are spending money on everything.
You can feel the difference in the air in spite of the minor mishaps in our economic recovery today. Consumer spending is up, and higher than last year.
Warren Buffet says this is only the beginning, and it will only get better from this point on. I agree. =)
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11/27/2012 2:01:48 PM
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At 11/27/2012 11:39:51 AM, Kinesis wrote:
6. The state can be a powerful force for good. It can correct market failures. It can discourage discrimination. It can do the opposite, but there's nothing inherently bad about the state.

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11/27/2012 2:03:43 PM
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Its not as much a problem with the parties as it is the system. It all goes back to that saying that in democracy eventually the majority will vote themselves the treasury
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11/27/2012 2:26:13 PM
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At 11/27/2012 1:18:29 PM, inferno wrote:
At 11/27/2012 12:34:24 PM, YYW wrote:
Indeed it is the case that the GOP finds itself at a critical juncture between pleasing those who are not working to upper class white men, and working to upper class white men. Perhaps it is the case that the Paul Ryan-Michelle Bachman-Rick Santorum sh!t show will emerge victoriously. Surely, this will extinguish the GOP from existence. And yet, equally could be the case that the GOP absorbs the libertarians of the present and incorporates them into the Republican Party of tomorrow. Yes, this is permissible. No, it isn't likely. Unavoidably, it will be a change that if it comes will be met with considerable opposition by those righteously indignant jesuits that once haunted the fringe of conservatism -but found themselves comfortably in the main stream as the Republican Primary ushered a crisis of leadership unlike any it had seen before, and with it a challenge that it has all too familiar. Ah, how reminiscent 2008 was of 1964; so emerges the challenge between the center of the party and it's edge, the chasm between Rockafellar Republicanism and AuH2O. Perhaps the fools on stage thought that Paul Ryan could court the GOP "base" with it's supposed values that involve regulating female bodies, restricting what male bodies can do to male bodies -even where both consent- and limiting stringently the rights of those who for whatever reason had the genetic misfortune of being homosexuals. Let us not forget those who had the equally damning misfortune of having been born something other than white! Alas, it would seem that wether those are the values of the "base" or not -they are surely not the values of America. For that, we are grateful.

The underlying tone seems to be communist at best.
But the GOP needs to get away from this homgenetic frame of mind and learn how to cope with diversity. Let alone embrace it.

Communist? Do explain...
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11/27/2012 2:40:13 PM
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At 11/27/2012 12:27:08 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
They support redistribution of wealth and strong central authority. Sounds like Communism.

Then you have no idea what Communism is. Communism is characterised (among other things that the Democrats don't support) by the collective ownership of the means of production. In fact, under true communism there isn't even a state, there isn't money, and there are no social classes. The democrats don't support those things.

Also, communist is a stupid scare word, like eugenics. It has connotations because of its history that aren't a part of the theory itself.

Liberals support cap & trade, dictating morality, stealing prosperity, taking property, crushing business, and eugenics based healthcare.

-Cap and trade should be a straightforward carbon tax but it's much better than letting climate change wreck the global system without any mitigating counterweight

-Dunno what examples of 'dictating morality' you have in mind. Perhaps forcing racial integration?

- Calling taxation theft commits a fallacy I wrote about at length in another thread, where you take something and put it into a category with certain archetypal features but the thing doesn't posses those archetypal features. Calling abortion 'murdering a human being' is another example of that.

-the evidence suggests the economy does BETTER under democratic big government than comparative republican small government. http://www.bloomberg.com... . Democrats are more likely to take the advice of economists to correct the economy when the markets go wrong. Like Obama did to stop the US economy melting down.

-huh, I already refuted the eugenics argument above. Guess I knew what kind of arguer you are.

As Romney rightly said, it's more compassionate to get people off of foodstamps than to put people on foodstamps. The best way to decrease poverty is to have a free market.

I agree with this. But the free market doesn't eliminate poverty, and unless you want the people on the painful bottom of the economic system to suffer from malnutrition and homelessness, or even die on the streets, you need some kind of welfare net.

Government control of distributing wealth always results in destitution.

No. To summarise the book I referenced earlier (from wiki) "The book argues that there are "pernicious effects that inequality has on societies: eroding trust, increasing anxiety and illness, (and) encouraging excessive consumption". It claims that for each of eleven different health and social problems: physical health, mental health, drug abuse, education, imprisonment, obesity, social mobility, trust and community life, violence, teenage pregnancies, and child well-being, outcomes are significantly worse in more unequal rich countries"

The book uses peer reviewed research, and its findings have been broadly accepted by the wider economic and political academic community.

If you gut the middle class to give to the poor, everyone just ends up poor and no one is prosperous.

Well yeah, but democrats want to raise taxes on the super rich, not the middle class.

Under Obama, people on foodstamps have reached record numbers. Foodstamps are a symbol of poverty, not wealth. People become dependent on them, and no they don't have to prove anything about work to be on them.

You just went through a massive recession! Of course food stamps went up. Obama didn't make food stamps easier to obtain, its just that more people met the criterion for receiving them.

Also, the UK has a MORE extensive welfare system for people out of a job, and our unemployment rate is slightly lower than yours.

Gay marriage is not a rights issue, gay marriage is: "i want my sexual orientation to have government benefits that single people don't get."

No, it's "I want to be treated the same way as straight people are when they want to get married".

Gays have the same rights as everybody else.

wtf no they don't. Gay couples can't marry straight couples can. Different marriage rights. Or are you arguing the stupidity that is "gay people can get married to members of the opposite sex so they are equal! No.

Gay marriage has always been a central issue on the Democratic platform. Democrats didn't vote for Romney because of his stance on gay marriage, binders of women, ending free handouts, food stamps, and abortion. And that's what irks me about Liberals.

That isn't all, but those are important issues.

Liberals made their message heard loud and clear this election: Strip all my freedoms away, eliminate the 2nd, 4th, & 6th Amendment, drone bomb thousands of innocent women and children, send more young men to die in multiplying wars, indefinitely detain me without trial, assassinate me, destroy the dollars in my wallet, destroy the economy, hurt small business, lay off more workers by raising the cost of employment via Obamacare, add 6 trillion to the debt, take my tax dollars and give it to rich bankers, foreign regimes, and Al Queda terrorists, increase the surveillance state, molest and radiate me at the airport, set up TSA checkpoints on highways, and approve 30,000 domestic spy drones, just please give us our gay marriage, student loans, and food stamps.

That right there is the Liberal sentiment. You think that's an exaggeration? I have video proof.

Eh, I don't have time to respond to "I'll list a million things refute them all". I'll debate you on this I guess if I have the time.

Thats why I'm not an Anarchist. I support the government, a government to perform essential tasks like infrastructure, law, courts, and defense. The government should not be in our personal lives and it should not interfere with the free market with subsidies, excessive taxes, and overregulation.

I uh, actually agree. Because you're using relative quantifiers like 'excessive' and 'over-' though, I think we'd draw the line in different places.
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11/27/2012 2:58:32 PM
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I reckon theres an actual chance of it. If they don't win 2016, they probably won't win again for a long time (as an incumbent tends to win and by 2024 america may be looking at 3 party politics - or we may all be dead or whatever)
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11/27/2012 3:01:43 PM
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I hope that the goverment goes bankrupt for real and that they can't pay the people and that there are giant riots for food.

I've always wanted to see a riot.
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11/27/2012 3:05:54 PM
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At 11/27/2012 3:01:43 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
I hope that the goverment goes bankrupt for real and that they can't pay the people and that there are giant riots for food.

I've always wanted to see a riot.

This is literally what is happening in Greece right now. Travel to Greece.
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11/27/2012 3:12:45 PM
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At 11/27/2012 3:01:43 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
I hope that the goverment goes bankrupt for real and that they can't pay the people and that there are giant riots for food.

I've always wanted to see a riot.

That's what Jesus would want.
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11/27/2012 3:36:36 PM
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At 11/27/2012 1:42:41 PM, inferno wrote:
At 11/27/2012 1:39:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
The public still thinks the economy is doing okay with current policies.

Republicans won't win another election till this perception changes. (likely an inflationary period)

I agree. And yes, people are spending money on everything.
You can feel the difference in the air in spite of the minor mishaps in our economic recovery today. Consumer spending is up, and higher than last year.
Warren Buffet says this is only the beginning, and it will only get better from this point on. I agree. =)

Yes, you can feel the difference in the air at the beginning of the each month when everyone is rushing to the supermarket to spend their new EBT credits... Sorry, but one data point isn't going to bring us back into prosperity.
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11/27/2012 4:05:22 PM
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No. I mean people who are buying with money. And spending it on cars, electronics, homes, clothes, and other things of merchandise and the new shop local and buy American phenomenon. You are from a different world my friend.
But this is what I see daily. =)
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11/27/2012 4:14:18 PM
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All authoritarian regimes need a core of privileged people who serve to keep the regime in power. The Democrats have government employees, union members, academicians, lawyers, and entertainment idols. These people have very good incomes, and who share the belief that they are better able to manage others lives than people making their own decisions.

Authoritarian rule needs demons to justify the seizure of power. that why anyone who disagree with the present regime is immediately characterized as racist or greedy. That will go one forever. The left is never responsible for any problem and never will be.

America became rich, powerful, and free with old white men in charge, but race and gender were not the causes. The causes were an intellectual history from Europe and an independent spirit derived from the need to start from scratch in a new land. Conservatives would be perfectly happy with a government of, say, Black women -- if they believed in freedom. What's happened is that the old values have died in a society of affluence.

Interestingly, one of the places enjoying a resurgence of prosperity through freedom from government is Puerto Rico. No old white guys in charge there.

Libertarians are 90% about getting unlimited drugs. Once they get that, we won't hear from them again.
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11/27/2012 4:36:49 PM
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At 11/27/2012 10:39:08 AM, RoyLatham wrote:
I think O'Reilly is right. The majority of people want stuff and the Democrats are gong to keep winning on that premise. It will continue until the economy collapses, as played out in Europe. I think it will take quite a while for the US. As the economy is gradually choked to death, there will be times when the gag is released to keep the patient alive, before they get back to killing it.

Republicans won't go extinct. There will always be a minority that believes in free enterprise, and they are not going to ever switch to new socialism. I think the Republicans will focus on the red states, now Texas prospers as California dies. Killing successful states will be a priority for the Feds.

Socialism and free enterprise are not mutually exclusive....it's all about reining in the excesses of free-market capitalism so that the general public (the voters) are not unduly exploited. In this way, businesses with a social conscience can prosper on a level playing field.
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11/27/2012 4:59:32 PM
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At 11/27/2012 4:36:49 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 11/27/2012 10:39:08 AM, RoyLatham wrote:
I think O'Reilly is right. The majority of people want stuff and the Democrats are gong to keep winning on that premise. It will continue until the economy collapses, as played out in Europe. I think it will take quite a while for the US. As the economy is gradually choked to death, there will be times when the gag is released to keep the patient alive, before they get back to killing it.

Republicans won't go extinct. There will always be a minority that believes in free enterprise, and they are not going to ever switch to new socialism. I think the Republicans will focus on the red states, now Texas prospers as California dies. Killing successful states will be a priority for the Feds.

Socialism and free enterprise are not mutually exclusive....it's all about reining in the excesses of free-market capitalism so that the general public (the voters) are not unduly exploited. In this way, businesses with a social conscience can prosper on a level playing field.

Interesting. And socialism is not just a Liberal establishment. Corporate greed does not discriminate..........