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How Does Lobbying Affect Government?

pozessed
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12/7/2012 12:35:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
What is lobbying? http://www.google.com...

Lobbying effects our laws and thus the constituents under its constitution.

The real question is who influences our governance more at the moment. Lobbyists that propose the opinions of social majorities or lobbyists that propose opinions of wealthy employers.
I assume the opinions of majorities should be priorities of all lobbyists, but I feel this is not the case.

Is there anything that can be done to strengthen social opinion inside political lobbyism?
pozessed
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12/7/2012 6:58:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 12:35:01 PM, pozessed wrote:
What is lobbying? http://www.google.com...

Lobbying effects our laws and thus the constituents under its constitution.

The real question is who influences our governance more at the moment. Lobbyists that propose the opinions of social majorities or lobbyists that propose opinions of wealthy employers.
I assume the opinions of majorities should be priorities of all lobbyists, but I feel this is not the case.

Is there anything that can be done to strengthen social opinion inside political lobbyism?

6 Hours and 0 comments... No wonder the US government has no real social backbone.
Contra
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12/7/2012 7:51:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 12:35:01 PM, pozessed wrote:
What is lobbying? http://www.google.com...

Lobbying effects our laws and thus the constituents under its constitution.

The real question is who influences our governance more at the moment. Lobbyists that propose the opinions of social majorities or lobbyists that propose opinions of wealthy employers.
I assume the opinions of majorities should be priorities of all lobbyists, but I feel this is not the case.

Is there anything that can be done to strengthen social opinion inside political lobbyism?

What? Government action is inherently prone to special interests, because gov't has strong power. Give the politician $10 million if he agrees to banking regulations that would shackle your competitors (Dodd Frank bill).
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darkkermit
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12/7/2012 7:51:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Lobbying isn't inherently bad. Politicians need to be informed of the possible consequences of the bill that they pass. Lobbyist give the information.

Lobbying gets a bad name when you use lobbying to corrupt politicians. Kickbacks and revolving door (when a politician gets a gurantee for becomine a higher up at a company) are two ways lobbyist can use their influence if the politicians are corrupt enough.

Lobbyist also have power in that they often donate political money to campaigns and endorse certain candidates. People who are part of the lobbyist group will take the group's voice into consideration when voting.
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socialpinko
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12/7/2012 8:03:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
http://www.econlib.org...
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
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: I disagree.
pozessed
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12/7/2012 8:27:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 8:03:50 PM, socialpinko wrote:
http://www.econlib.org...

TY very informative thus far. I have to leave but look forward to finishing. Seems to possess a great relevance to my post.
Do you have your own thoughts that you can add to the topic aside from the reference to the article?
socialpinko
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12/7/2012 8:32:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 8:27:36 PM, pozessed wrote:
At 12/7/2012 8:03:50 PM, socialpinko wrote:
http://www.econlib.org...

TY very informative thus far. I have to leave but look forward to finishing. Seems to possess a great relevance to my post.
Do you have your own thoughts that you can add to the topic aside from the reference to the article?

"Political democracy is dumb" would be the gist of my thoughts I guess.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
PARADIGM_L0ST
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12/7/2012 8:44:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 12:35:01 PM, pozessed wrote:
What is lobbying? http://www.google.com...

Lobbying effects our laws and thus the constituents under its constitution.

The real question is who influences our governance more at the moment. Lobbyists that propose the opinions of social majorities or lobbyists that propose opinions of wealthy employers.
I assume the opinions of majorities should be priorities of all lobbyists, but I feel this is not the case.

Is there anything that can be done to strengthen social opinion inside political lobbyism?:

It's a good 'ole boy network -- "I scratch your back, you scratch mine." Check out Ho-bama's list of goons.

http://www.businessinsider.com...
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12/7/2012 9:02:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Read Freedomnomics.
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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socialpinko
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12/7/2012 10:23:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 9:02:55 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Read Freedomnomics.

The title alone is incredibly off-putting.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
Greyparrot
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12/8/2012 7:00:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
My Dad says all politicians need to have 1 year non-repeating term limits to make campaigning way too expensive to maintain power and attract more serious voters.

I'm not so sure this would do much to affect the ownership of the government by lobbyists.