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1/7/2013 10:12:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
You know it is sad to see what our world has come to in these days and times......I have always thought that Women have been denied and discriminated on based on gender, whether it be politics, leadership, religion, or sports. In the MidEast it can be said that this is quite the way of life for these people who are obviously a bit behind the times when it comes to gender equality and the role that Women play in a modern day world.
So where is the outrage ? Where is the sense of respect ?
And why is the US remaining rather silent in issues such as this that take place even here in our own home. Rape is a very serious thing, and I do believe that the cause to stop this is highly
underrated. What do you think. See story below.

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1/7/2013 11:32:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I agree. I think those types of crimes should be taken more seriously, by everyone. I think one problem is that sex is just to casual now. Everybodies doin it, literally. Everywhere we goin sex is selling something. Even with the kids. And rapist aren't going away. We are just giving them a bigger platform to work with. They are becoming more comfortable with committing these crimes. But thats just my opinion. Very sad story tho. I hate hearing things liek that.
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1/7/2013 11:53:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I didn't read the article, but why do you say there is no outrage or nothing is being done. I have heard of protests/movements in India to address this via the government within the last month. I have also heard that women being raped (or maybe it was specifically gang-rape) on public transit has spiked dramatically. This is not to say it wasn't happening before, but for some reason, women in India seem to be in more danger now than before.

Has something happened culturely that caused this spike? Perhaps this is the price of prosperity :(
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1/7/2013 11:57:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 11:53:21 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I didn't read the article, but why do you say there is no outrage or nothing is being done. I have heard of protests/movements in India to address this via the government within the last month.
I was in India just last week. A few days ago, I was shopping in an area (Connaught Place) while the protests were going on. The government doesn't care about the protests, which are led by college students. The older generations don't care about the protests either. There is a massive disconnect between the younger and older generations. The government of India is run by an aristocracy of goons. It's well known that politicians make deals with criminals to get office. When Stephen Harper visited late last year, he took armored tanks with him to ensure that the Congress Party didn't assassinate him and blame it on the opposition as a means of getting votes.
I have also heard that women being raped (or maybe it was specifically gang-rape) on public transit has spiked dramatically. This is not to say it wasn't happening before, but for some reason, women in India seem to be in more danger now than before.

Has something happened culturely that caused this spike? Perhaps this is the price of prosperity :(

No, it isn't spiking right now. It's just being reported more in the media and being taken a little more seriously by the police in an effort to shut the protests down.
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1/7/2013 12:23:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 11:57:11 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I was in India just last week. A few days ago, I was shopping in an area (Connaught Place) while the protests were going on. The government doesn't care about the protests, which are led by college students. The older generations don't care about the protests either. There is a massive disconnect between the younger and older generations. The government of India is run by an aristocracy of goons. It's well known that politicians make deals with criminals to get office.

Are you sure you're not talking about the United States?
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1/7/2013 12:26:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 12:23:16 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 1/7/2013 11:57:11 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I was in India just last week. A few days ago, I was shopping in an area (Connaught Place) while the protests were going on. The government doesn't care about the protests, which are led by college students. The older generations don't care about the protests either. There is a massive disconnect between the younger and older generations. The government of India is run by an aristocracy of goons. It's well known that politicians make deals with criminals to get office.

Are you sure you're not talking about the United States?

lol :p
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1/7/2013 1:12:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 12:26:17 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 12:23:16 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 1/7/2013 11:57:11 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I was in India just last week. A few days ago, I was shopping in an area (Connaught Place) while the protests were going on. The government doesn't care about the protests, which are led by college students. The older generations don't care about the protests either. There is a massive disconnect between the younger and older generations. The government of India is run by an aristocracy of goons. It's well known that politicians make deals with criminals to get office.

Are you sure you're not talking about the United States?

lol :p

I believe that most MidWestern cultures are every bit as legit as America. But when it comes to social issues, gender roles, and politics, they seem to be very adamant about the way they want Women behind the Man. I guess it has much to do with superiority and equality mainly in the workplace and through currency. The Men in those parts of the world believe that Women are inferior and should remain submissive always in a very stoic and traditional manner.
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1/7/2013 1:28:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 11:57:11 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 11:53:21 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I didn't read the article, but why do you say there is no outrage or nothing is being done. I have heard of protests/movements in India to address this via the government within the last month.
I was in India just last week. A few days ago, I was shopping in an area (Connaught Place) while the protests were going on. The government doesn't care about the protests, which are led by college students. The older generations don't care about the protests either. There is a massive disconnect between the younger and older generations. The government of India is run by an aristocracy of goons. It's well known that politicians make deals with criminals to get office. When Stephen Harper visited late last year, he took armored tanks with him to ensure that the Congress Party didn't assassinate him and blame it on the opposition as a means of getting votes.
I have also heard that women being raped (or maybe it was specifically gang-rape) on public transit has spiked dramatically. This is not to say it wasn't happening before, but for some reason, women in India seem to be in more danger now than before.

Has something happened culturely that caused this spike? Perhaps this is the price of prosperity :(

No, it isn't spiking right now. It's just being reported more in the media and being taken a little more seriously by the police in an effort to shut the protests down.

Fox News, on the radio, lied to me :(
Their reporter specifically said there was a spike in attacks on women.
Perhaps they're not bias, just incompetant.

Or maybe the spike was on transit, and not a spike in rapes as a whole...
Either way, with time, the old guard will see the light or die.
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1/7/2013 1:54:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 1:28:34 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 1/7/2013 11:57:11 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 11:53:21 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I didn't read the article, but why do you say there is no outrage or nothing is being done. I have heard of protests/movements in India to address this via the government within the last month.
I was in India just last week. A few days ago, I was shopping in an area (Connaught Place) while the protests were going on. The government doesn't care about the protests, which are led by college students. The older generations don't care about the protests either. There is a massive disconnect between the younger and older generations. The government of India is run by an aristocracy of goons. It's well known that politicians make deals with criminals to get office. When Stephen Harper visited late last year, he took armored tanks with him to ensure that the Congress Party didn't assassinate him and blame it on the opposition as a means of getting votes.
I have also heard that women being raped (or maybe it was specifically gang-rape) on public transit has spiked dramatically. This is not to say it wasn't happening before, but for some reason, women in India seem to be in more danger now than before.

Has something happened culturely that caused this spike? Perhaps this is the price of prosperity :(

No, it isn't spiking right now. It's just being reported more in the media and being taken a little more seriously by the police in an effort to shut the protests down.

Fox News, on the radio, lied to me :(
Their reporter specifically said there was a spike in attacks on women.
Perhaps they're not bias, just incompetant.

Or maybe the spike was on transit, and not a spike in rapes as a whole...
Either way, with time, the old guard will see the light or die.

Interesting theory there.
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1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.
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1/7/2013 6:04:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

But India is ruled by neither communists nor the military. It's a good ol' liberal republic, so try again. What do India and the dictatorships you have in mind have in common? Oh yes, crushing poverty. And how is it sexist? These women, as per social liberalism, were dressing as scantily as they liked and fully integrated into the male population. Some of those males, economic liberalism having helped make brutes of them and in any case given them little to lose, naturally brutalized women and any male companions; the latter were spared from the particular crime of rape not out of respect, but simply because the assailants weren't homosexuals.
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1/8/2013 6:48:51 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

The Soviet Union was the best regime for women's rights in history.
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1/8/2013 6:49:33 AM
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At 1/7/2013 6:04:41 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

But India is ruled by neither communists nor the military. It's a good ol' liberal republic, so try again. What do India and the dictatorships you have in mind have in common? Oh yes, crushing poverty. And how is it sexist? These women, as per social liberalism, were dressing as scantily as they liked and fully integrated into the male population. Some of those males, economic liberalism having helped make brutes of them and in any case given them little to lose, naturally brutalized women and any male companions; the latter were spared from the particular crime of rape not out of respect, but simply because the assailants weren't homosexuals.

India is still extremely culturally conservative. Don't talk about things you don't understand.
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1/8/2013 8:45:48 AM
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At 1/7/2013 6:04:41 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

But India is ruled by neither communists nor the military. It's a good ol' liberal republic, so try again. What do India and the dictatorships you have in mind have in common? Oh yes, crushing poverty. And how is it sexist? These women, as per social liberalism, were dressing as scantily as they liked and fully integrated into the male population. Some of those males, economic liberalism having helped make brutes of them and in any case given them little to lose, naturally brutalized women and any male companions; the latter were spared from the particular crime of rape not out of respect, but simply because the assailants weren't homosexuals.

No. That may be their official banner, but the culture is not that my friend.
Just like China will forever be a Communist country regardless of their classification. The name has changed, but the culture stays the same. =)
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1/8/2013 8:48:17 AM
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At 1/8/2013 6:49:33 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 6:04:41 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

But India is ruled by neither communists nor the military. It's a good ol' liberal republic, so try again. What do India and the dictatorships you have in mind have in common? Oh yes, crushing poverty. And how is it sexist? These women, as per social liberalism, were dressing as scantily as they liked and fully integrated into the male population. Some of those males, economic liberalism having helped make brutes of them and in any case given them little to lose, naturally brutalized women and any male companions; the latter were spared from the particular crime of rape not out of respect, but simply because the assailants weren't homosexuals.

India is still extremely culturally conservative. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

Indian culturally is a very stoic traditional country. I have Indian friends.........They still have this mindset that is based on thousands and thousands of years of MidEastern traditions in spite of their political banner. The culture has not changed, only the name. Just like us African Americans. Yes, we have been commercialised and modernized and saturated with Western ideology.
But we still act like n*ggers. Get the point. Good. =)
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1/8/2013 9:20:50 AM
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At 1/8/2013 6:48:51 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

The Soviet Union was the best regime for women's rights in history.

elaborate...
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1/8/2013 9:37:01 AM
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At 1/8/2013 9:20:50 AM, imabench wrote:
At 1/8/2013 6:48:51 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

The Soviet Union was the best regime for women's rights in history.

elaborate...

It let women fight in the army and Air Force in World War II, gave them wage equality and the freedom to work, outlawed marital rape in the 1930s (which was not outlawed in the United States until 1993), and legalized abortion.
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1/8/2013 9:42:08 AM
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At 1/8/2013 9:37:01 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/8/2013 9:20:50 AM, imabench wrote:
At 1/8/2013 6:48:51 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

The Soviet Union was the best regime for women's rights in history.

elaborate...

It let women fight in the army and Air Force in World War II, gave them wage equality and the freedom to work, outlawed marital rape in the 1930s (which was not outlawed in the United States until 1993), and legalized abortion.

That is true Royale. However the Communist ideology still remains. They do believe and to this very day deem females to be inferior to females.
Many Women in the Soviet Union even today feel oppressed by the Status Quo.
I will give you more information as to what and who they are in my next thread about the New World Order.................
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1/8/2013 11:00:26 AM
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At 1/8/2013 8:45:48 AM, inferno wrote:
No. That may be their official banner, but the culture is not that my friend.
Just like China will forever be a Communist country regardless of their classification. The name has changed, but the culture stays the same. =)

I'm glad you find rape amusing; it's just that I wasn't aware of a Chinese epidemic of it, neither now nor in the Communist period, nor of sexism being greater there than in more individualistic or capitalistic countries at similar levels of economic development. Incidentally, you have it backwards; China is still officially Communist, but its increasingly stratified subjects are as deeply invested in the rat race as any other capitalist nation.
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1/8/2013 11:07:11 AM
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At 1/8/2013 11:00:26 AM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 1/8/2013 8:45:48 AM, inferno wrote:
No. That may be their official banner, but the culture is not that my friend.
Just like China will forever be a Communist country regardless of their classification. The name has changed, but the culture stays the same. =)

I'm glad you find rape amusing; it's just that I wasn't aware of a Chinese epidemic of it, neither now nor in the Communist period, nor of sexism being greater there than in more individualistic or capitalistic countries at similar levels of economic development. Incidentally, you have it backwards; China is still officially Communist, but its increasingly stratified subjects are as deeply invested in the rat race as any other capitalist nation.

"Im glad you find rape amusing". Ding dong youre wrong. I guess you are one of them illiterate people in the world today. Now be a good little doggie and go back and read my very first paragraph. Thank you. Next idiot please..............
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1/8/2013 11:08:22 AM
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At 1/8/2013 6:48:51 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

The Soviet Union was the best regime for women's rights in history.

The Soviets oppress Women perhaps more than any Eastern on Earth other than the MidEast and China, too.
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1/8/2013 11:14:11 AM
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At 1/8/2013 9:42:08 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/8/2013 9:37:01 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/8/2013 9:20:50 AM, imabench wrote:
At 1/8/2013 6:48:51 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

The Soviet Union was the best regime for women's rights in history.

elaborate...

It let women fight in the army and Air Force in World War II, gave them wage equality and the freedom to work, outlawed marital rape in the 1930s (which was not outlawed in the United States until 1993), and legalized abortion.

That is true Royale. However the Communist ideology still remains. They do believe and to this very day deem females to be inferior to females.
Many Women in the Soviet Union even today feel oppressed by the Status Quo.
I will give you more information as to what and who they are in my next thread about the New World Order.................

Um, communism deems everyone to be equal. Communists have consistently focused on female liberation. Communism does not deem females inferior to males.
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1/8/2013 11:14:56 AM
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At 1/8/2013 11:08:22 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/8/2013 6:48:51 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

The Soviet Union was the best regime for women's rights in history.

The Soviets oppress Women perhaps more than any Eastern on Earth other than the MidEast and China, too.

The Soviet Union is gone, and women were liberated in the Soviet Union. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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1/8/2013 11:25:09 AM
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At 1/8/2013 6:49:33 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
India is still extremely culturally conservative. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

Conservative compared to what? The US of course, where reported rape is four times as frequent despite the population being one-fourth the size. India is actually quite liberal in comparison to countries with similar poverty rates, as in the Middle East, where rape is basically limited to the marital variety that's common in India as well. Anyway, inferno didn't directly blame conservatism; he blamed dictatorship (military and "communist"). Liberalism's role, to inferno, is to inspire different forms of government, particularly the republic. India is in fact undoubtedly a republic, but here we are.
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1/8/2013 11:33:24 AM
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At 1/8/2013 11:07:11 AM, inferno wrote:
"Im glad you find rape amusing". Ding dong youre wrong. I guess you are one of them illiterate people in the world today. Now be a good little doggie and go back and read my very first paragraph. Thank you. Next idiot please..............

I read that feeble attempt to paint yourself empathetic; it's just that your subsequent smiley face, at the conclusion of a pessimistic view of women's rights in China, begs to differ. But no matter; I'm primarily interested in where you get your information about China, because it's heterodox and demonstrably false.
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1/8/2013 12:03:31 PM
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At 1/8/2013 11:25:09 AM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 1/8/2013 6:49:33 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
India is still extremely culturally conservative. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

Conservative compared to what?
Europe.
The US of course, where reported rape is four times as frequent despite the population being one-fourth the size.
Delhi is called the rape capital of the world for a reason. The US takes rape much more seriously than India does. The police don't really care about it. India has been ranked the most dangerous G20 country for women to live in because rape and violence against women are so prevalent. It's so bad that molestation of college students is expected. They even have a name for it: eve-teasing.
India is actually quite liberal in comparison to countries with similar poverty rates
Um, based on what? That's the story that the politicians paint, but it's so false. Ever heard of the 1984 genocides? The police state in Punjab? Anti-Muslim riots? Anti-untouchable crimes? (They won't even let Amnesty International and the Red cross in). Just last week, I was reading an article in the Hindustan Times in which politicians were openly blaming rape victims for being raped.
, as in the Middle East, where rape is basically limited to the marital variety that's common in India as well. Anyway, inferno didn't directly blame conservatism; he blamed dictatorship (military and "communist"). Liberalism's role, to inferno, is to inspire different forms of government, particularly the republic. India is in fact undoubtedly a republic, but here we are.
Inferno's points were obviously wrong.
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1/8/2013 12:10:02 PM
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Oh,and India actively censors materials it find unsuitable, including exposes on torture in their prisons, genocide, and material that might soil the image of Gandhi (they banned a book in which a historian made the claim that Gandhi was a homosexual). I So much for being a liberal nation.
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1/8/2013 12:13:21 PM
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OMG, I totally forgot about this ad I saw on tv while I was there: https://www.youtube.com...

I've never seen an ad that was more misogynist than that one. Granted, I don't really watch TV, but I doubt Snickers would have gotten away with that in the US without massive protests.
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1/8/2013 12:32:45 PM
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At 1/8/2013 11:14:56 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/8/2013 11:08:22 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/8/2013 6:48:51 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM, inferno wrote:
It has a lot to do with culture issues. Most liberated countries are Liberal influence. The most sexist countries are usually communist or military governed. Which means Non-Republic.

The Soviet Union was the best regime for women's rights in history.

The Soviets oppress Women perhaps more than any Eastern on Earth other than the MidEast and China, too.

The Soviet Union is gone, and women were liberated in the Soviet Union. You have no idea what you are talking about.

False. Communism gave way to rampant poverty and war like it always does.
China and the USSR are both the same when it come to the iron hand of oppression. Now if you dont believe that, then go live in one of those countries and you will see for yourself. =)