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Bombshell: Sandy Hook Now Proven Hoax

GeoLaureate8
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1/15/2013 2:37:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Fact: Parents on TV, paid actors, not sad.

Fact: 3 Shooters, footage of police chasing the suspects into the woods. One suspect gets in the FRONT seat of cop car.

Fact: Medical examiner paid actor.

Fact: FEMA had child school shooting drill right before event.

Fact: Sandy Hook relief page created prior to shooting.

Fact: Alleged parent creates grieving Facebook page morning of event, but before daughter confirmed dead.

MegaFact: Man who took children into his home was literally a member of an actors guild.

MegaFact: Lanza had 4 handguns, rifle found in trunk of another car.

Watch the video for smoking gun proof.
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1/15/2013 3:12:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
So apparently the motive here is that the Government,...and Obama, wants to take away guns from U.S citizens so that the state has more power....and in order to achieve this, they orchestrated the massacre of 20 children and 6 adults in small Connecticut town, just so they could use it as an excuse to take away guns. Yet Obama is a gun rights advocate and the only conversation thus far has referred to common sense gun regulation and not the repeal of the 2nd amendment..... maybe you should start with a more cogent motive, no?

The majority of the evidence in that video depended on a cynical interpretation for effect (for example, interpreting that father's press conference as acting, and interpreting the suspects seat at the front of the police car as something conspiratorial. If those facts were placed by themselves and then judged by themselves, that video would be a lot less convincing.
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1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.
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1/15/2013 3:27:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'll admit that coroner interview was bizarre
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1/15/2013 3:28:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.

I must have skimmed this because I didn't see an argument.

Refute his (seemingly dumb) arguments is one thing. Whining about what it means if he's right is another.
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1/15/2013 3:35:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:28:30 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.

I must have skimmed this because I didn't see an argument.

Refute his (seemingly dumb) arguments is one thing. Whining about what it means if he's right is another.

Fair enough. Give me a second though I'm at work.
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1/15/2013 3:38:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Fact 1. The video says the shooting did occur.

Fact 2. The second man arrested was well known to anyone who cared to google it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...

Fact 3. The video is claiming all the students were killed, but by more people than the mainstream story claims.

Megafact. Very few successful conspiracies utilize SAG.
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1/15/2013 3:41:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.

Hoax doesn't mean noone died. Though, even Freedo admitted that one of the alleged girls who died was alive and well sitting next to Obama.

Is it wrong to call a spade a spade? The refugee guy was officially in an actors guild and the medical examiner was laughing about the crime.
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1/15/2013 3:42:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Megafact: A 20 year old shooting kindergardeners is likely to be more proficient than teens shooting other teens, even if he is autistic.
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1/15/2013 3:43:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:41:37 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.

Hoax doesn't mean noone died. Though, even Freedo admitted that one of the alleged girls who died was alive and well sitting next to Obama.

Is it wrong to call a spade a spade? The refugee guy was officially in an actors guild and the medical examiner was laughing about the crime.

What exactly are you claiming then?

It's not illegal to be SAG. Medical examiners use a lot of gallows humor just like Doctors in the ER. How the hell else do you cope with that kind of job? Wading through bodies of toddlers?
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1/15/2013 3:44:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
On second thought, how about a proper debate Geo? I'll have to disprove the video or at the very least convince the voters it is a fake.
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1/15/2013 3:45:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:43:30 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:41:37 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.

Hoax doesn't mean noone died. Though, even Freedo admitted that one of the alleged girls who died was alive and well sitting next to Obama.

Is it wrong to call a spade a spade? The refugee guy was officially in an actors guild and the medical examiner was laughing about the crime.

What exactly are you claiming then?

It's not illegal to be SAG. Medical examiners use a lot of gallows humor just like Doctors in the ER. How the hell else do you cope with that kind of job? Wading through bodies of toddlers?

Wanna know what makes someone NOT funny? Knowing that you are lying to millions of viewers, and any journalist would literally trade a body part to find out that you are lying.
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1/15/2013 3:48:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:43:30 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:41:37 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.

Hoax doesn't mean noone died. Though, even Freedo admitted that one of the alleged girls who died was alive and well sitting next to Obama.

Is it wrong to call a spade a spade? The refugee guy was officially in an actors guild and the medical examiner was laughing about the crime.

What exactly are you claiming then?

It's not illegal to be SAG. Medical examiners use a lot of gallows humor just like Doctors in the ER. How the hell else do you cope with that kind of job? Wading through bodies of toddlers?

Did you see the examiner? He was a goof through and through. No matter how you act to cope with that kind of job, you don't act that way when giving an interview with the press about the slaughter of kids.
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1/15/2013 3:49:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:48:28 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:43:30 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:41:37 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.

Hoax doesn't mean noone died. Though, even Freedo admitted that one of the alleged girls who died was alive and well sitting next to Obama.

Is it wrong to call a spade a spade? The refugee guy was officially in an actors guild and the medical examiner was laughing about the crime.

What exactly are you claiming then?

It's not illegal to be SAG. Medical examiners use a lot of gallows humor just like Doctors in the ER. How the hell else do you cope with that kind of job? Wading through bodies of toddlers?

Did you see the examiner? He was a goof through and through. No matter how you act to cope with that kind of job, you don't act that way when giving an interview with the press about the slaughter of kids.

So the guy is an @ss, what exactly does that prove?
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1/15/2013 3:52:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:49:54 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
So the guy is an @ss, what exactly does that prove?

It proves that 911 was an inside job and that you're part of the NWO.
I said it was bizarre, nothing else.
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1/15/2013 3:53:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:48:28 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:43:30 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:41:37 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:25:11 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
What the fvck is wrong with you! How dare you spit on the deaths of 20 children and 6 innocent people by claiming it never happened. That's extremely insulting. You need to get your head out of your @ss. You and whoever else believes this bullsh!t. Also Snopes.com mofo.

Hoax doesn't mean noone died. Though, even Freedo admitted that one of the alleged girls who died was alive and well sitting next to Obama.

Is it wrong to call a spade a spade? The refugee guy was officially in an actors guild and the medical examiner was laughing about the crime.

What exactly are you claiming then?

It's not illegal to be SAG. Medical examiners use a lot of gallows humor just like Doctors in the ER. How the hell else do you cope with that kind of job? Wading through bodies of toddlers?

Did you see the examiner? He was a goof through and through. No matter how you act to cope with that kind of job, you don't act that way when giving an interview with the press about the slaughter of kids.

Just curious, and this is not an insult, but have you engaged with the social skills of a person who thinks "hey, I'm going to spend my life dissecting dead bodies to find out why they're dead?"

Their outward behavior, especially while under pressure (and you can't pressure such people more than by putting them on camera), is REALLY not a good indicator of their personality or feelings, much less the objective tragedy itself. Even the most normal ones are so desensitized to death that in cases which would make all of us throw up they can eat a sandwich.

Also, if this WAS an act, don't you think he'd be more conscious of how he was coming off to the public?
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1/15/2013 3:58:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:49:54 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
So the guy is an @ss, what exactly does that prove?

Nothing if you single out that one fact. Why don't you address the tough issues that the video poses?
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1/15/2013 3:59:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:53:33 PM, Wnope wrote:
Just curious, and this is not an insult, but have you engaged with the social skills of a person who thinks "hey, I'm going to spend my life dissecting dead bodies to find out why they're dead?"

Their outward behavior, especially while under pressure (and you can't pressure such people more than by putting them on camera), is REALLY not a good indicator of their personality or feelings, much less the objective tragedy itself. Even the most normal ones are so desensitized to death that in cases which would make all of us throw up they can eat a sandwich.

Also, if this WAS an act, don't you think he'd be more conscious of how he was coming off to the public?

I've only known one person who was in that field and she was very well adjusted/normal.
I never said the guy was an actor, I said it was bizarre behavior for a chief medical examiner in the face of such a tragedy.
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1/15/2013 4:24:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
HILARIOUS disclaimer in the beginning! Gutless, spineless, punks who wouldn't have the nuts to say it to one of the victim's parents to their face. If they did do that, they will eventually reach the wrong person (or perhaps the right person) who'd make sure that they don't talk crazy no mo.
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1/15/2013 4:27:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 4:24:15 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
HILARIOUS disclaimer in the beginning! Gutless, spineless, punks who wouldn't have the nuts to say it to one of the victim's parents to their face. If they did do that, they will eventually reach the wrong person (or perhaps the right person) who'd make sure that they don't talk crazy no mo.

They're pointing out inconsistencies, not claims. You're an idiot. The disclaimer was there due to the sensitive nature of the event.
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1/15/2013 4:29:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I can't believe a debate site would condemn doubt, skepticism, examination, investigation, and compiling inconsistencies.

Shameful.
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1/15/2013 5:01:56 PM
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At 1/15/2013 4:29:34 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I can't believe a debate site would condemn doubt, skepticism, examination, investigation, and compiling inconsistencies.
There's NOTHING compelling! That the initial reports were wrong in mass shooting is no surprise. There's no assault riffle taken out of the trunk; it's a shot gun CLEARLY. That there was someone sitting in the front of a police car is NO big conspiracy ESPECIALLY when it's being told by someone who is a SPECULATING observer. The coroner confirms that the rifle was the primary weapon (which you can barely hear over the annoying music) and it was NOT found in the trunk as can be clearly seen by the shot gun that was removed from the trunk. Small children in shock in small spaces are much easier targets than teens that know what's going on, can move about, and can present a challenge. Lanza had Habsburger's Disease not some physically debilitating problem; there's no reason that he wouldn't be able to handle the rifle ESPECIALLY since his mother took him to the range and helped him to be proficient. Again, that a mist an on going tragedy that people's accounts and reporting of said accounts are wrong is no surprise. That someone is laughing or smiling one moment and extremely sad the next is common for people who are still in shock; some people will laugh at funerals, etc. This is just so much nonsense.

Shameful.
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1/15/2013 5:16:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
No Assault Rifle Found at Sandy Hook Massacre
http://www.examiner.com...
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1/15/2013 5:33:29 PM
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Can we just leave one thing "off limits" to conspiracy theories. Sandy Hook was not a conspiracy to take away our guns, and I wish we could live in a world that just left it a that!
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1/15/2013 5:44:49 PM
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Given the rate at which these mass shootings occur naturally, wouldn't the Illuminati be better off just waiting for one? And haven't they learned that if they keep making these stupid mistakes Geo's gonna find them out every time?
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1/15/2013 5:58:14 PM
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At 1/15/2013 5:33:29 PM, tmar19652 wrote:
Can we just leave one thing "off limits" to conspiracy theories. Sandy Hook was not a conspiracy to take away our guns, and I wish we could live in a world that just left it a that!

There is NO THEORY in the video you idiot. They are observed FACTS.
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1/15/2013 6:06:49 PM
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Hey, go ahead believing the Sandy Hook official narrative and that Operation Gladio doesn't exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org...
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1/15/2013 6:11:56 PM
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At 1/15/2013 6:01:44 PM, Wnope wrote:
I'm still not clear as to what Geo is arguing. That the government orchestrated Sandy Hook?

Don't be silly. He's clearly arguing that he has no self-control, hasn't thought through this case with respect to opposing evidence, and feels impelled to publish his pitiful youtube findings for the sake of inciting angry responses and getting a bit of attention for being such a "brave" heretic.
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1/15/2013 6:12:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 6:01:44 PM, Wnope wrote:
I'm still not clear as to what Geo is arguing. That the government orchestrated Sandy Hook?

The official narrative parroted by the establishment and MSM is demonstrably false, has lots of holes, and is being dishonestly exploited by Washington and the White House. These people who are calling for gun control have always been for gun control and are pretending like their measures are a knee-jerk solution. No.
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