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GeoLaureate8
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2/5/2013 10:55:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Obama's secret assassins
The president has a clandestine network targeting a 'kill list' justified by secret laws. How is that different than a death squad?
http://www.guardian.co.uk...

The coming drone attack on America
http://www.guardian.co.uk...

Obama asking military leaders to fire on Americans, says Nobel Prize nominee
http://www.examiner.com...

Someone Just Leaked Obama's Rules for Assassinating American Citizens
http://reason.com...

Wait, I thought Alex Jones was crazy and that none of this is real? It's all theory. Wrong, Alex Jones is ahead of the curve once again, MSM is just catching up.
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2/5/2013 11:01:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 10:55:00 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Obama's secret assassins
The president has a clandestine network targeting a 'kill list' justified by secret laws. How is that different than a death squad?
http://www.guardian.co.uk...

The coming drone attack on America
http://www.guardian.co.uk...

Obama asking military leaders to fire on Americans, says Nobel Prize nominee
http://www.examiner.com...

Someone Just Leaked Obama's Rules for Assassinating American Citizens
http://reason.com...

Wait, I thought Alex Jones was crazy and that none of this is real? It's all theory. Wrong, Alex Jones is ahead of the curve once again, MSM is just catching up.

You've shown no evidence whatsoever that domestic drones will be armed other than the opinion of a reporter.

The killing of Anwar has been a public fact for years. The "kill lists" dates back (and was publicly known) to Bush Jr.
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2/5/2013 11:10:46 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
"Noel Sharkey, professor of artificial intelligence and robotics at the University of Sheffield, has mixed feelings about the development.

"It's an incredible technical achievement, but it's unfortunate that it's going to be used to kill people," he suggested.

"It's going to be used for chasing people across the desert, I would imagine. I can't think of many civilian applications - maybe for hunting, or farming, for rounding up sheep.

"But of course if it's used for combat, it would be killing civilians as well as it's not going to be able to discriminate between civilians and soldiers."

Darpa's press release for the Cheetah project suggested that the robots might ultimately be used in "emergency response, humanitarian assistance and other defence missions."

http://www.bbc.co.uk...
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2/5/2013 11:14:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 11:10:46 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"Noel Sharkey, professor of artificial intelligence and robotics at the University of Sheffield, has mixed feelings about the development.

"It's an incredible technical achievement, but it's unfortunate that it's going to be used to kill people," he suggested.

"It's going to be used for chasing people across the desert, I would imagine. I can't think of many civilian applications - maybe for hunting, or farming, for rounding up sheep.

"But of course if it's used for combat, it would be killing civilians as well as it's not going to be able to discriminate between civilians and soldiers."

Darpa's press release for the Cheetah project suggested that the robots might ultimately be used in "emergency response, humanitarian assistance and other defence missions."

http://www.bbc.co.uk...

Um...no one is claiming that assault drones don't exist. Big holes all over Pakistan attest to that.

This article does not suggest a robotic cheetach will be killing American citizens anytime soon...within the American border at least.
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2/5/2013 11:15:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
"The drone war could be shrinking faster than anyone expected. Raytheon"s teeny, tiny drone bomb might be ready to arm a small drone within months, the defense giant says. Since 2009, Raytheon has been experimenting with what it understatedly calls a Small Tactical Munition. It"s a laser-guided bomb less than two feet long and barely a 10th the weight of the Hellfire missiles that the iconic Predators and Reapers pack."

http://www.wired.com...
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2/5/2013 11:20:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 11:15:27 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"The drone war could be shrinking faster than anyone expected. Raytheon"s teeny, tiny drone bomb might be ready to arm a small drone within months, the defense giant says. Since 2009, Raytheon has been experimenting with what it understatedly calls a Small Tactical Munition. It"s a laser-guided bomb less than two feet long and barely a 10th the weight of the Hellfire missiles that the iconic Predators and Reapers pack."

http://www.wired.com...

To repeat, no one is contesting that drones can be armed.
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2/5/2013 11:21:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
"EFF Demands Answers About Predator Drone Flights in the U.S.

San Francisco - The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed suit against the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Tuesday, demanding answers about how and why it loans out its Predator drones to other law enforcement agencies across the country."

https://www.eff.org...
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2/5/2013 11:27:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 11:21:03 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"EFF Demands Answers About Predator Drone Flights in the U.S.

San Francisco - The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed suit against the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Tuesday, demanding answers about how and why it loans out its Predator drones to other law enforcement agencies across the country."

https://www.eff.org...

And this relates to arming drones.....how? The FAA has access to all that information and legally can't allow armed drones.

The article is about how the FAA is foot-dragging when it comes to releasing data and guidelines.
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2/5/2013 1:43:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Geo, are you actually paying attention or do you have some sort of auto response button that when challenged will display the next news article?
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2/5/2013 2:41:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 1:43:58 PM, Double_R wrote:
Geo, are you actually paying attention or do you have some sort of auto response button that when challenged will display the next news article?

You both are missing the point that Obama can assassinate American citizens by drone strike. It's all over the mainstream news. I just turned on the radio 20 minutes ago and they were talking about the breaking news that Obama can assassinate Americans with no due process according to the DoJ docs and the White House press release.
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2/5/2013 2:51:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 2:41:26 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/5/2013 1:43:58 PM, Double_R wrote:
Geo, are you actually paying attention or do you have some sort of auto response button that when challenged will display the next news article?

You both are missing the point that Obama can assassinate American citizens by drone strike. It's all over the mainstream news. I just turned on the radio 20 minutes ago and they were talking about the breaking news that Obama can assassinate Americans with no due process according to the DoJ docs and the White House press release.

I suggest hiding in your basement Geo. Airstrike is on its way.
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GeoLaureate8
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2/5/2013 3:04:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
"A bipartisan group of 11 senators is appealing directly to President Barack Obama to give lawmakers his administration's legal justification for using armed drones or other counterterrorism operations to kill American citizens."

http://www.politico.com...

Hey Double_R, respond to THAT!
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2/5/2013 3:45:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Double R isn't here. I got this.

1) what does he stand to gain?

2) Let me guess, if Obama doesn't bomb americans, its because Alex Jones stopped him?
#BlackLivesMatter
GeoLaureate8
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2/5/2013 4:10:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 3:45:53 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
Double R isn't here. I got this.

1) what does he stand to gain?

What did he stand to gain when he killed a 16 year old American boy with no charge with a drone strike?

http://www.globalresearch.ca...

2) Let me guess, if Obama doesn't bomb americans, its because Alex Jones stopped him?

Yes, and David Icke, and Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Judge Napolitano, Wayne LaPierre, Ted Nugent, alternative media, and Fox News, and all other patriot Americans who care about freedom.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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2/5/2013 4:50:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 4:10:57 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/5/2013 3:45:53 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
Double R isn't here. I got this.

1) what does he stand to gain?

What did he stand to gain when he killed a 16 year old American boy with no charge with a drone strike?

http://www.globalresearch.ca...

Nothing. This is a biased website. And that official made a stupid comment. They didn't know he was there. If they wanted to kill this boy, they could cover it up. They could frame him. His dad actually was a terrorist so it wouldn't be that hard.

2) Let me guess, if Obama doesn't bomb americans, its because Alex Jones stopped him?

Yes, and David Icke, and Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Judge Napolitano, Wayne LaPierre, Ted Nugent, alternative media, and Fox News, and all other patriot Americans who care about freedom.

No. If Obama wanted you dead, you'd be dead. If he really had guys on his side who wanted to kill Americans civilians, you wouldn't stand a chance. He'd be in some bunker firing off missiles like crazy. None of those people you named are explosion proof. If he really had the military willing to kill civilians, it would be done. Your AR-15 isn't going to do a damned thing to a M1A3. This man controls our nuclear weapons and you're saying he's a psychopath but scared of the Law?
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2/6/2013 4:33:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 3:04:25 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"A bipartisan group of 11 senators is appealing directly to President Barack Obama to give lawmakers his administration's legal justification for using armed drones or other counterterrorism operations to kill American citizens."

http://www.politico.com...

Hey Double_R, respond to THAT!

Sorry, you've reached the Double_R automated copy and paste response system. If you would like to have an authentic response please leave a real message. In the mean time enjoy a copy and paste from your very own article:

"In September 2011, a drone strike in Yemen killed Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula leader Anwar Al-Awlaki, who was a U.S. citizen. The strike was reportedly carried out by the U.S. Other Americans, including Al-Awlaki's teenage son, have reportedly been killed in drone attacks executed by the U.S. However, the Americans killed in those strikes are believed to have been collateral casualties and not the intended targets."
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2/6/2013 6:20:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 4:10:57 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/5/2013 3:45:53 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
Double R isn't here. I got this.

Ted Nugent

Ted Nugent?? A Patriotic American?? Ted Nugent is the most un-American, hypocritical coward this country has seen in a while.

In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he avoided the draft: "He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."

Geo, this man literally sh1t and pissed his pants, and lived in it, so he didn't have to go to Vietnam. But now all of a sudden this man is heralded as a hero by the conservative party. Big bad Ted Nugent is an ardent defender of the 2nd amendment and guns!....except when he actually has to use them.

http://www.rutlandherald.com...
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2/6/2013 8:40:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/5/2013 4:10:57 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Yes, and David Icke, and Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Judge Napolitano, Wayne LaPierre, Ted Nugent, alternative media, and Fox News, and all other patriot Americans who care about freedom.

*blinks*

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2/6/2013 8:57:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com...

Here's the interesting part:

The condition that an operational" leader present an "imminent" threat of violent attack against the United States does not require the United States to have clear evidence that a specific attack on U.S. persons and interests will take place in the immediate future.

It's bad enough with politicians contradict themselves from day to day. Here they have contradicted themselves in the same sentence (for the purposes of giving themselves permission to kill us)
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2/6/2013 9:12:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/6/2013 6:20:59 AM, emj32 wrote:
At 2/5/2013 4:10:57 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/5/2013 3:45:53 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
Double R isn't here. I got this.

Ted Nugent

Ted Nugent?? A Patriotic American?? Ted Nugent is the most un-American, hypocritical coward this country has seen in a while.

In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he avoided the draft: "He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."

Geo, this man literally sh1t and pissed his pants, and lived in it, so he didn't have to go to Vietnam. But now all of a sudden this man is heralded as a hero by the conservative party. Big bad Ted Nugent is an ardent defender of the 2nd amendment and guns!....except when he actually has to use them.

http://www.rutlandherald.com...

This is a non-sequitur (and possibly false). Are you saying that Vietnam was justified? Or that anytime your commanders tell you a war is justified you agree? You might want spend some time grasping the concept of patriotism beyond what your gov't paid teachers taught you.

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter...."

http://www.snopes.com...
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2/6/2013 9:34:16 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/6/2013 9:12:52 AM, ax123man wrote:
At 2/6/2013 6:20:59 AM, emj32 wrote:
At 2/5/2013 4:10:57 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/5/2013 3:45:53 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
Double R isn't here. I got this.

Ted Nugent

Ted Nugent?? A Patriotic American?? Ted Nugent is the most un-American, hypocritical coward this country has seen in a while.

In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he avoided the draft: "He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."

Geo, this man literally sh1t and pissed his pants, and lived in it, so he didn't have to go to Vietnam. But now all of a sudden this man is heralded as a hero by the conservative party. Big bad Ted Nugent is an ardent defender of the 2nd amendment and guns!....except when he actually has to use them.

http://www.rutlandherald.com...

This is a non-sequitur (and possibly false). Are you saying that Vietnam was justified? Or that anytime your commanders tell you a war is justified you agree? You might want spend some time grasping the concept of patriotism beyond what your gov't paid teachers taught you.

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter...."

http://www.snopes.com...

....what? I was responding to Geo calling Ted Nugent an American Patriot. Vietnam was obviously not justified. I was just reminding everybody how much of a coward Nugent was/is. This man was talking about how he'll go to Vietnam and 'drive those hippies out of the bunkers'. He's all bark, no bite. What kind of coward talks about going over to Vietnam and killing everybody over there, then proceeds to living in his own waste because hes so scared. You definitely made up your own assumptions while reading my post, wrong ones at that.
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2/6/2013 9:42:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
That's not cowardice. That's standing up for what you believe in at all costs. The Vietnam War was the most unAmerican scam of a war. Henry Kissinger said military men are "dumb stupid animals used as pawns in war." He probably thought "that's one of smart ones who refuses be our slave."
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