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2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.
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2/9/2013 11:24:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

I think:

Castro played a huge part in killing JFK

Obama is a Communist/Marxist (not kidding)

Obama wants to directly defy the constitution (woops, already did it)
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2/9/2013 11:53:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
The incident with Korean Flight 007 was planned.
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2/9/2013 12:03:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 11:53:42 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
The incident with Korean Flight 007 was planned.

I would also like to believe the Roswell conspiracy, but i have no evidence of that.
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2/9/2013 12:32:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Never heard #2, but we have a lot of various ones around here, and then there's Geo, he's has more than everybody else combined. If he sees this post I'm pretty sure #2 is in, you've given him more than enough information for him to insist it's a proven fact.

By the way, I'm by far the most well adjusted person on these boards and even I give credence to #3, I don't think it even qualifies as a conspiracy theory anymore.
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2/9/2013 12:43:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 12:32:23 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Never heard #2, but we have a lot of various ones around here, and then there's Geo, he's has more than everybody else combined. If he sees this post I'm pretty sure #2 is in, you've given him more than enough information for him to insist it's a proven fact.

By the way, I'm by far the most well adjusted person on these boards and even I give credence to #3, I don't think it even qualifies as a conspiracy theory anymore.

Its painfully obvious that JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald....
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2/9/2013 12:50:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 12:43:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:32:23 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Never heard #2, but we have a lot of various ones around here, and then there's Geo, he's has more than everybody else combined. If he sees this post I'm pretty sure #2 is in, you've given him more than enough information for him to insist it's a proven fact.

By the way, I'm by far the most well adjusted person on these boards and even I give credence to #3, I don't think it even qualifies as a conspiracy theory anymore.

Its painfully obvious that JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald....

although the idea of him being a lone shooter is questionable.

conspiracies i'm willing to believe:

-Osama bin Laden wasn't killed in 2011
-bush administration allowed 9/11 to occur (this does not mean they caused it though)

Although they're just speculations.
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2/9/2013 7:59:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 12:43:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:32:23 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Never heard #2, but we have a lot of various ones around here, and then there's Geo, he's has more than everybody else combined. If he sees this post I'm pretty sure #2 is in, you've given him more than enough information for him to insist it's a proven fact.

By the way, I'm by far the most well adjusted person on these boards and even I give credence to #3, I don't think it even qualifies as a conspiracy theory anymore.

Its painfully obvious that JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald....

Yes, and it's painfully obvious that he wasn't acting alone.
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2/9/2013 8:32:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 12:50:42 PM, darkkermit wrote:

conspiracies i'm willing to believe:

-Osama bin Laden wasn't killed in 2011
-bush administration allowed 9/11 to occur (this does not mean they caused it though)

Although they're just speculations.

That's weird. Those two are probs most plausible to me as well. Though the first is the only one I'd really be willing to ever give credibility too. I don't think Bush made any conscious decision to let dem towers go down, just that it's not a prima facie insane thought.
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2/9/2013 10:29:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'll consider any conspiracy theory that can put together a coherent narrative as to who was behind it, how they pulled it off, why they did it, and actually weighs that narrative against the evidence to the contrary as opposed to a theory that simply asks questions then demand that everyone answer to their personal incredulity.

That pretty much rules them all out.
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2/9/2013 10:35:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 7:59:47 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:43:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:32:23 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Never heard #2, but we have a lot of various ones around here, and then there's Geo, he's has more than everybody else combined. If he sees this post I'm pretty sure #2 is in, you've given him more than enough information for him to insist it's a proven fact.

By the way, I'm by far the most well adjusted person on these boards and even I give credence to #3, I don't think it even qualifies as a conspiracy theory anymore.

Its painfully obvious that JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald....

Yes, and it's painfully obvious that he wasn't acting alone.

Dingus, number 3 says that L.H.O. wasnt the one who killed JFK.... Not that that he wasnt acting alone....

Learn to read.
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2/9/2013 10:47:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 10:29:55 PM, Double_R wrote:
I'll consider any conspiracy theory that can put together a coherent narrative as to who was behind it, how they pulled it off, why they did it, and actually weighs that narrative against the evidence to the contrary as opposed to a theory that simply asks questions then demand that everyone answer to their personal incredulity.

That pretty much rules them all out.

JFK assassination took less than fifteen people all under hierarchical command (via CIA or crime syndicates) with multiple motives and converging interests.

Truther scenarios take hundreds, if not thousands, of highly involved perpetrators without converging interests who throw their lives away to maintain to lie which gives them no personal benefit.
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2/9/2013 11:19:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 10:47:36 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 2/9/2013 10:29:55 PM, Double_R wrote:
I'll consider any conspiracy theory that can put together a coherent narrative as to who was behind it, how they pulled it off, why they did it, and actually weighs that narrative against the evidence to the contrary as opposed to a theory that simply asks questions then demand that everyone answer to their personal incredulity.

That pretty much rules them all out.

JFK assassination took less than fifteen people all under hierarchical command (via CIA or crime syndicates) with multiple motives and converging interests.

Truther scenarios take hundreds, if not thousands, of highly involved perpetrators without converging interests who throw their lives away to maintain to lie which gives them no personal benefit.

Never had much of an interest in the JFK conspiracy, I definitely accept it as being the most reasonable among the major ones out there. My gut still says it's crap like all the others but I don't pretend that that means anything. 9/11 on the other hand...
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2/10/2013 12:34:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Don't we have photos of bin Laden's severed head? Pretty sure that's an indicator of deadedness.

One also wonders why he wouldn't say something like "TROLOLOL STILL HERE!"
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2/10/2013 12:38:49 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/10/2013 12:34:12 AM, Citrakayah wrote:
Don't we have photos of bin Laden's severed head? Pretty sure that's an indicator of deadedness.

Al-Qaeda acknowledged that we killed him and the media was even shown the photos on the grounds that they dont put them on the air and cause possible an embassy attack. There was one floating around on facebook claiming to be a pic of dead Osama but it was just dead Saddam Hussein with Osama's beard photoshopped onto his chin to make it sorta look like him.

One also wonders why he wouldn't say something like "TROLOLOL STILL HERE!"
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2/10/2013 12:55:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
There are many conspiracies going on at one time.

The great majority of them are on a very small scale.

Most of them don't last longer than a decade.

They tend to be more fragile after a certain point of progression.

None outlive their conspirators, although they sometimes evolve.

Most are harmless.

Many are actually benevolent.

Some are malicious.

There are several large malicious conspiracies going on right now.

Specifically, the most malicious, large and long-lasting conspiracy in the world today is the US military industrial complex.
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2/10/2013 1:51:39 PM
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I give most credence to the JFK conspiracy, and it seems to me that's the most widely accepted conspiracy theory.

I've probably done more research on the 9/11 conspiracy than any other conspiracy, and while I find many aspects of the even very, very suspicious (WTC 7, the physics involved, the fact that the hijackers only took lessons for small aircraft, not jets), you have the issue of our government being able to: 1) Plan and execute the attacks and 2) Do so without any sort of mistakes or any wistleblowers. I do think there's more to it than we're being told, but I think most of what they may be hiding is more of a cover up of their own incompetence rather than their own involvement.

I love a good conspiracy, just for the entertainment of them, but I really don't find myself giving them any credence. But if it came out that the government was in fact involved on 9/11, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised. If some investigative reporter uncovered a secret society consisting of the worlds richest people, and that they were planning on instituting a NWO, I again wouldn't be surprised. But until there's more concrete evidence, I really cannot find myself believing any of it.

Really, the problem with conspiracies are the extremists on both sides. Those who believe there is absolutely no chance of the theory being true, and hence, not listening to the evidence. And those who take the theories to the extremes, and believe in reptilian, shape shifting politicians, and satanic secret societies controlling our music and movies, and say that those who don't believe are under the influence of mind control. So that gives some conspiracy theories that may, to a certain degree, be true, no chance of being involved in a serious discussion.
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2/10/2013 2:20:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 10:35:29 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 7:59:47 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:43:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:32:23 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Never heard #2, but we have a lot of various ones around here, and then there's Geo, he's has more than everybody else combined. If he sees this post I'm pretty sure #2 is in, you've given him more than enough information for him to insist it's a proven fact.

By the way, I'm by far the most well adjusted person on these boards and even I give credence to #3, I don't think it even qualifies as a conspiracy theory anymore.

Its painfully obvious that JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald....

Yes, and it's painfully obvious that he wasn't acting alone.

Dingus, number 3 says that L.H.O. wasnt the one who killed JFK.... Not that that he wasnt acting alone....

I referenced #3 because I give credence to "conspiracy" theories about the killing of JFK. It follows that, if L.H.O. wasn't working alone then someone other han L.H.O. was also involved in killing the President, and saying he was killed by L.H.O. would be misleading as to the truth of what occurred.

There were on;y two sentences between #3 and my comment about #3, try to follow along.

Learn to read.

I know how to read jus fine, perhaps you could learn not to be so anal retentive.
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2/10/2013 2:34:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 11:19:06 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/9/2013 10:47:36 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 2/9/2013 10:29:55 PM, Double_R wrote:
I'll consider any conspiracy theory that can put together a coherent narrative as to who was behind it, how they pulled it off, why they did it, and actually weighs that narrative against the evidence to the contrary as opposed to a theory that simply asks questions then demand that everyone answer to their personal incredulity.

That pretty much rules them all out.

JFK assassination took less than fifteen people all under hierarchical command (via CIA or crime syndicates) with multiple motives and converging interests.

Truther scenarios take hundreds, if not thousands, of highly involved perpetrators without converging interests who throw their lives away to maintain to lie which gives them no personal benefit.

Never had much of an interest in the JFK conspiracy, I definitely accept it as being the most reasonable among the major ones out there. My gut still says it's crap like all the others but I don't pretend that that means anything. 9/11 on the other hand...

My gut feel is that the official story about what happened to JFK is crap, and there is a lot more to the story than what we have been told.

I certainly don't know what the real truth is, don't even choose to speculate about what really happened , but my gut tells me the story we were told was not the full story or the complete truth. I do in fact believe there are people who know the truth and they has a responsibility to tell us the truth, and I don't think they did.

That is why I give credence to the belief that there was a conspiracy to hide the truth about who killed JFK,
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2/10/2013 2:39:49 PM
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You know what I believe in? I believe in a secret race of fish people with human torsos and horse legs that are super advanced. These folk can run at 6 billion miles per hour and are so advanced that they have infiltrated our government and our planet. These abominations were created by the Russians to support Obama in his control of our world through tin foil brain control methods. Not only that, but these hybrids were the ones behind EVERYTHING, you name it. Why? To give Obama an excuse to take your guns away so they can take forcibly us all to Blisstonia where they will take our rights away. Their leader is Alex Jones.
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2/10/2013 2:41:11 PM
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At 2/10/2013 2:39:49 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
You know what I believe in? I believe in a secret race of fish people with human torsos and horse legs that are super advanced. These folk can run at 6 billion miles per hour and are so advanced that they have infiltrated our government and our planet. These abominations were created by the Russians to support Obama in his control of our world through tin foil brain control methods. Not only that, but these hybrids were the ones behind EVERYTHING, you name it. Why? To give Obama an excuse to take your guns away so they can take forcibly us all to Blisstonia where they will take our rights away. Their leader is Alex Jones.

Seems legit.
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2/10/2013 3:09:29 PM
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At 2/9/2013 10:29:55 PM, Double_R wrote:
I'll consider any conspiracy theory that can put together a coherent narrative as to who was behind it, how they pulled it off, why they did it, and actually weighs that narrative against the evidence to the contrary as opposed to a theory that simply asks questions then demand that everyone answer to their personal incredulity.

That pretty much rules them all out.

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2/10/2013 3:48:21 PM
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At 2/10/2013 2:20:19 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 10:35:29 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 7:59:47 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:43:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:32:23 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:

3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Its painfully obvious that JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald....

Yes, and it's painfully obvious that he wasn't acting alone.

Dingus, number 3 says that L.H.O. wasnt the one who killed JFK.... Not that that he wasnt acting alone....

I referenced #3 because I give credence to "conspiracy" theories about the killing of JFK. It follows that, if L.H.O. wasn't working alone then someone other han L.H.O. was also involved in killing the President, and saying he was killed by L.H.O. would be misleading as to the truth of what occurred.

There were on;y two sentences between #3 and my comment about #3, try to follow along.

Somebody working with LHO does NOT mean that person was the one who killed JFK while LHO did nothing.... It only means that LHO wasnt working alone but that LHO was the one who killed him.

Learn to read.

I know how to read jus fine, perhaps you could learn not to be so anal retentive.

Ill say it again, If somebody was working with LHO it does not mean that this person was the one who killed JFK while LHO did nothing. Someone else being the killer and someone working with LHo are two completely different things dumba**.
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2/10/2013 3:52:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/10/2013 3:09:29 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2013 10:29:55 PM, Double_R wrote:
I'll consider any conspiracy theory that can put together a coherent narrative as to who was behind it, how they pulled it off, why they did it, and actually weighs that narrative against the evidence to the contrary as opposed to a theory that simply asks questions then demand that everyone answer to their personal incredulity.

That pretty much rules them all out.

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

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And I suppose Patrick Henry was asking the nearest politician to execute him on the spot if he wasn't immediately given "liberty?"
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2/10/2013 5:37:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them
3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

There is fairly strong evidence to suggest that the mob killed JFK. They certainly had motive (JFK was sleeping with the wife of a fairly prominent leader of one of the five families). That said, we probably won't ever know. There are some secrets that are meant to remain secrets.
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2/10/2013 5:41:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:
So, what are some conspiracies that the people of DDO accept?

Mine are:
1. "Alien" UFO's are actually secret government aircraft.
2. Vaccines are pushed as working so that the government doesn't lose money on them

Lol. Vaccines actually don't make that much money.

3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.
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2/10/2013 7:01:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/10/2013 2:39:49 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
You know what I believe in? I believe in a secret race of fish people with human torsos and horse legs that are super advanced. These folk can run at 6 billion miles per hour and are so advanced that they have infiltrated our government and our planet. These abominations were created by the Russians to support Obama in his control of our world through tin foil brain control methods. Not only that, but these hybrids were the ones behind EVERYTHING, you name it. Why? To give Obama an excuse to take your guns away so they can take forcibly us all to Blisstonia where they will take our rights away. Their leader is Alex Jones.

You had me at "secret race of fish people with human torsos and horse legs that are super advanced", but you lost me again at Alex Jones as leader, that's just too unbelievable.
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2/10/2013 7:14:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/10/2013 3:48:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/10/2013 2:20:19 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 10:35:29 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 7:59:47 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:43:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2013 12:32:23 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/9/2013 11:13:53 AM, Nidhogg wrote:

3. JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Its painfully obvious that JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald....

Yes, and it's painfully obvious that he wasn't acting alone.

Dingus, number 3 says that L.H.O. wasnt the one who killed JFK.... Not that that he wasnt acting alone....

I referenced #3 because I give credence to "conspiracy" theories about the killing of JFK. It follows that, if L.H.O. wasn't working alone then someone other han L.H.O. was also involved in killing the President, and saying he was killed by L.H.O. would be misleading as to the truth of what occurred.

There were on;y two sentences between #3 and my comment about #3, try to follow along.

Somebody working with LHO does NOT mean that person was the one who killed JFK while LHO did nothing.... It only means that LHO wasnt working alone but that LHO was the one who killed him.

Learn to read.

I know how to read jus fine, perhaps you could learn not to be so anal retentive.

Ill say it again, If somebody was working with LHO it does not mean that this person was the one who killed JFK while LHO did nothing.

OK, and since I never said that, I suppose it's good that you should say it twice.

Someone else being the killer and someone working with LHo are two completely different things dumba**.

No sh!t Sherlock, got any other brilliant observations, maybe you can tell us the sky is blue or something.

OK, so do tell, did you at least try or is the anal retentive thing just too strong for you to deal with? Is anal retentive a defining character trait or just a lifestyle choice?
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