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FREEDO
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2/9/2013 2:03:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I am completely unsure of my political views.

I have a real problem. I think I'm obsessive-compulsively indecisive. And it isn't just with politics.

Anyway. Try to, idk, convince me of stuff. I'm wide open.
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Oryus
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2/9/2013 2:05:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I love you.
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OMGJustinBieber
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2/9/2013 2:19:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:03:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I am completely unsure of my political views.

I have a real problem. I think I'm obsessive-compulsively indecisive. And it isn't just with politics.

Anyway. Try to, idk, convince me of stuff. I'm wide open.

I'm surprised you're capable of the uncertainty of unknowing.
OMGJustinBieber
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2/9/2013 2:19:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:19:17 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/9/2013 2:03:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I am completely unsure of my political views.

I have a real problem. I think I'm obsessive-compulsively indecisive. And it isn't just with politics.

Anyway. Try to, idk, convince me of stuff. I'm wide open.

I'm surprised you're capable of the uncertainty of unknowing.

The *certainty* of unknowing, I meant.
bossyburrito
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2/9/2013 2:20:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Become an extremely socially conservative republican.
#UnbanTheMadman

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Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
FREEDO
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2/9/2013 2:23:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:20:36 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
Become an extremely socially conservative republican.

That's where I started. It probably won't happen until I know I'm about to die.
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fnord
ConservativeAmerican
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2/9/2013 2:37:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Although I am Conservative, there is nothing wrong with being Moderate and being split on issues.

I am fiscally conservative and interventionist, but I agree with gay rights and am somewhat environmentalist.
FREEDO
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2/9/2013 2:42:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:32:12 PM, darkkermit wrote:
become super-agnostic on politics!!! that's the best course of action.

Been there. Done that.
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FREEDO
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2/9/2013 2:46:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:37:21 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
Although I am Conservative, there is nothing wrong with being Moderate and being split on issues.

I am fiscally conservative and interventionist, but I agree with gay rights and am somewhat environmentalist.

I just transitioned out of moderate liberalism. But I've been through countless different radicalisms.
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fnord
ConservativeAmerican
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2/9/2013 2:48:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:46:11 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 2/9/2013 2:37:21 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
Although I am Conservative, there is nothing wrong with being Moderate and being split on issues.

I am fiscally conservative and interventionist, but I agree with gay rights and am somewhat environmentalist.

I just transitioned out of moderate liberalism. But I've been through countless different radicalisms.

At one point I was so liberal that in a report I did at school I said America was near fascism. LOL
KroneckerDelta
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2/9/2013 2:52:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Politics is pretty ill-defined in my opinion and generally the problem.

Drop "politics" altogether and go with evidence based reasoning. So when politicians suggest a policy, look at the evidence for:

1) Is what they say going to work (example supple side economics has been shown to fail)
2) Is what they say going to cause harm (example segregation is bad)
3) Is what they say going to have the effect they promise (i.e. minimum wage doesn't help anybody, it just gives entry level people more money, but at the same time causes the price of goods to go up. It doesn't do any good for someone to have an extra $2 an hour if all of the things they want to buy are now going to cost an extra $10)

So, I think agnostic is the way to go. If you're doing it right, nobody should like you.
KroneckerDelta
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2/9/2013 2:53:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:52:16 PM, KroneckerDelta wrote:
Politics is pretty ill-defined in my opinion and generally the problem.

Drop "politics" altogether and go with evidence based reasoning. So when politicians suggest a policy, look at the evidence for:

1) Is what they say going to work (example supple side economics has been shown to fail)
2) Is what they say going to cause harm (example segregation is bad)
3) Is what they say going to have the effect they promise (i.e. minimum wage doesn't help anybody, it just gives entry level people more money, but at the same time causes the price of goods to go up. It doesn't do any good for someone to have an extra $2 an hour if all of the things they want to buy are now going to cost an extra $10)


So, I think agnostic is the way to go. If you're doing it right, nobody should like you.

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In an ideal world, my friend, in an ideal world.

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FREEDO
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2/9/2013 2:57:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I don't use ideology, no matter what way I go.

But, as many here know, I am an onion like an ogre. I have layers. And I like having "views" on the surface.
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ConservativeAmerican
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2/9/2013 3:00:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:57:04 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I don't use ideology, no matter what way I go.

But, as many here know, I am an onion like an ogre. I have layers. And I like having "views" on the surface.

I honestly think any idea or policy would work fine, if managed by the right leader.
OberHerr
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2/9/2013 3:04:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
You could join the Pirate Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org...
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KroneckerDelta
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2/9/2013 3:39:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 3:04:25 PM, OberHerr wrote:
You could join the Pirate Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

The introducing blurb makes a lot of sense to me...I might have to say this is my party now...

...although I suspect the devil is in the details.
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Sidewalker
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2/9/2013 8:10:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:03:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I am completely unsure of my political views.

I have a real problem. I think I'm obsessive-compulsively indecisive. And it isn't just with politics.

Anyway. Try to, idk, convince me of stuff. I'm wide open.

How did you decide that you were obsessive-compulsively indecisive?

Maybe you aren't, you probably aren't, in fact, I'm sure you aren't, no freaking way..

Convinced?
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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2/9/2013 8:13:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:05:26 PM, Oryus wrote:
I love you.

OMG, you're cheating on me?

I slaved over a hot PC for you, gave you the best posts of my life, and this is how you thank me?
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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2/9/2013 8:19:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:46:11 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 2/9/2013 2:37:21 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
Although I am Conservative, there is nothing wrong with being Moderate and being split on issues.

I am fiscally conservative and interventionist, but I agree with gay rights and am somewhat environmentalist.

I just transitioned out of moderate liberalism. But I've been through countless different radicalisms.

Become a Vermin Supremist.
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
Noumena
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2/9/2013 8:24:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Start with something relatively simple (conceptually) but capable of having a large effect on your development. That way you can explore alternatives relatively easily while not still being utterly agnostic at the end of it all. Property for instance. What are the first thoughts that come to mind?
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
sadolite
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2/9/2013 8:36:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/9/2013 2:03:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I am completely unsure of my political views.

I have a real problem. I think I'm obsessive-compulsively indecisive. And it isn't just with politics.

Anyway. Try to, idk, convince me of stuff. I'm wide open.

Think as an individual, not a brainwashed political hack. Associate with people who advance your causes and dreams. Listen to no one who does not. Their goal is only to destroy you and your dreams. That is the goal of every politician as far as I can tell. Not a single one regardless of party is going to do anything to help advance my causes and dreams but only put one obstacle after another in my way via more endless regulation.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
critical_mind
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2/9/2013 9:34:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
let's make a doctrine called (unknowing_ism) which argue that every position requires a certain amount of belief and the truthfulness of every position is unknowable
even thou some ideas may make more sense than others but cant be known which of them is true and which are false