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3/1/2013 5:17:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The news/media's job is to report the daily news, not shape it. I feel that all too often media outlets potray themselves as "Non-Biased", yet anyone who is even moderately informed by outside media and moderately intelligent can tell they are cramming their personal bias and lies down the average ignoramus's throat. This happens with large and small media, and is distributed almost evenly among the right (more notorious bias is redstate and FOX, plenty more small news sources), and the left (Washington Post, MSNBC, Huff. Post, etc.).

I think that while the media should include controversial questions and try to get people engaged in politics, bias is the wrong way to do it. Basically, they shouldn't be as entertaining and addicting as MSNBC or FOX and not as boring as C-Span. Yellow journalism along with it's bias is the most significant symptom of the plague of ignorance in America.

I am fine with opinion news outlets and opinion blogs, but the blogs should first give some sort of fair indicator that they have a target group on the political spectrum, otherwise they are directly manipulating people and contributing to this plague.
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3/1/2013 6:46:54 PM
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3/1/2013 6:54:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I don't mind bias when presenting the news, it's when there's an over-saturation of one view that is the problem. MSNBC, CNN, CNBC, ABC, etc. and then you Fox News by itself. Fox has to be double aggressive when advancing their view because of the monopoly of Liberal media and education.

I think if all news stations all presented diverse views with each program involving a round table of diverse fields of thought, you'd have news DDO style.
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3/1/2013 7:01:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I don't like how there's no investigative journalism anymore.
News now is just pundits talking about politics.
Original reporting, that's all I want.
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3/1/2013 11:07:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/1/2013 5:17:34 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
The news/media's job is to report the daily news, not shape it. I feel that all too often media outlets potray themselves as "Non-Biased", yet anyone who is even moderately informed by outside media and moderately intelligent can tell they are cramming their personal bias and lies down the average ignoramus's throat. This happens with large and small media, and is distributed almost evenly among the right (more notorious bias is redstate and FOX, plenty more small news sources), and the left (Washington Post, MSNBC, Huff. Post, etc.).

I think that while the media should include controversial questions and try to get people engaged in politics, bias is the wrong way to do it. Basically, they shouldn't be as entertaining and addicting as MSNBC or FOX and not as boring as C-Span. Yellow journalism along with it's bias is the most significant symptom of the plague of ignorance in America.

I am fine with opinion news outlets and opinion blogs, but the blogs should first give some sort of fair indicator that they have a target group on the political spectrum, otherwise they are directly manipulating people and contributing to this plague.

Essentially what you are saying is that news outlets shouldn't be a business. Until you can find another way to fund these outlets without politicians deciding what gets reported, that is not realistic. The result is that entertainment becomes first priority.

Drama is what makes political news entertaining, and you don't get drama by making both sides seem perfectly reasonable. No one really cares if you come on and say that there are things you prefer the President would do differently to improve the economy. But claim that he is destroying us with socialism (in a way that sounds like you know what you are talking about) and people will follow what you have to say every night.
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3/2/2013 12:12:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/1/2013 5:17:34 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
The news/media's job is to report the daily news, not shape it. I feel that all too often media outlets potray themselves as "Non-Biased", yet anyone who is even moderately informed by outside media and moderately intelligent can tell they are cramming their personal bias and lies down the average ignoramus's throat. This happens with large and small media, and is distributed almost evenly among the right (more notorious bias is redstate and FOX, plenty more small news sources), and the left (Washington Post, MSNBC, Huff. Post, etc.).

I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

The media's job is to be a check on the power of government by informing the public of their goings on.

Realize as well that freedom of the press is embedded in the same amendment to the constitution which holds your freedom of speech. It is necessarily their jobs to provide an analysis and conclusions based upon their journalistic findings.

"fair and balanced" is f*cking bullsh!t, and a neo-con buzz term used to get their own slant on the days events, despite how usually warped and incorrect it is, added in with the more realistic views presented by journalists who are unbiased when the news comes in, but necessarily biased after they have processed what that news means.

Someone who denies that the current global warming trend is majority created by humans doesn't deserve equal time in the news cycle as one of the 99.7% (or whatever it is now...pretty high is an understatement when describing that majority) of scientists who acknowledge the human factor in this global crisis.

The fact that you don't like the slant that the majority of journalists have upon the days events, simply because it doesn't jive with your personal political philosophy is not the problem of the media. It's a problem within yourself.


I think that while the media should include controversial questions and try to get people engaged in politics, bias is the wrong way to do it. Basically, they shouldn't be as entertaining and addicting as MSNBC or FOX and not as boring as C-Span. Yellow journalism along with it's bias is the most significant symptom of the plague of ignorance in America.

THIS is one part of a two-part problem with the news - Television. 1/2 hour of passive engagement with the days events is not enough to understand them and do anything but latch onto the opinions of those presenting it to the passive viewer.


I am fine with opinion news outlets and opinion blogs, but the blogs should first give some sort of fair indicator that they have a target group on the political spectrum, otherwise they are directly manipulating people and contributing to this plague.

What if their target group is simply the truth?

Here's the problem with the news today - it's the New York Times taking a decidedly pro-government position in the contest between the US and Julian Assange.

Assange, love him or hate him, is a reporter who used a source to put forth information to the public. After making a mistake in this regard once prior, he scrubs the information for security issues and urges the media outlets who reprint it to do the same (which a government liaison could easily assist with once they know the info is out there, but do not).

It's CNN taking a pro-government position in the assassination of al Alwaki...a flagrant violation of the 4th - 8th amendments to the constitution (which, despite being outdated, is all we got).

When the media started acting as a government lackey, and people started digesting their media through that propaganda box, THAT'S when both the media and the citizenry of this country began failing.

Add to that the absolute failure of the Executive, Legislative, and most recently the Judicial branch of our government, all 5 branches are in complete failure (the media and citizens are no less important in the checks and balances process than the 3 official branches of government).

AKA - we're f*cked

BTW - this is why anarchy won't work. here we are with things being public and despite the obvious call to action, almost no one is heeding the call. if we can't do it in a public set-up, how the f*ck are we gonna do so in a private one, because I don't care what form of government/non-government you choose - from time to time, major adjustments need to be made, but the youth of this country are too apathetic, selfish or cowardly to do anything, instead turning to systems which would feed the power monopolies we face that are working unopposed.

And you're b!tching about bias. Bias, against the government, is exactly what our news should be, and was always meant to be.

WAKE THE F*CK UP, MAN.
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3/2/2013 10:25:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/2/2013 12:12:52 AM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 3/1/2013 5:17:34 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
The news/media's job is to report the daily news, not shape it. I feel that all too often media outlets potray themselves as "Non-Biased", yet anyone who is even moderately informed by outside media and moderately intelligent can tell they are cramming their personal bias and lies down the average ignoramus's throat. This happens with large and small media, and is distributed almost evenly among the right (more notorious bias is redstate and FOX, plenty more small news sources), and the left (Washington Post, MSNBC, Huff. Post, etc.).

I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

The media's job is to be a check on the power of government by informing the public of their goings on.

Realize as well that freedom of the press is embedded in the same amendment to the constitution which holds your freedom of speech. It is necessarily their jobs to provide an analysis and conclusions based upon their journalistic findings.

"fair and balanced" is f*cking bullsh!t, and a neo-con buzz term used to get their own slant on the days events, despite how usually warped and incorrect it is, added in with the more realistic views presented by journalists who are unbiased when the news comes in, but necessarily biased after they have processed what that news means.

Someone who denies that the current global warming trend is majority created by humans doesn't deserve equal time in the news cycle as one of the 99.7% (or whatever it is now...pretty high is an understatement when describing that majority) of scientists who acknowledge the human factor in this global crisis.

The fact that you don't like the slant that the majority of journalists have upon the days events, simply because it doesn't jive with your personal political philosophy is not the problem of the media. It's a problem within yourself.


I think that while the media should include controversial questions and try to get people engaged in politics, bias is the wrong way to do it. Basically, they shouldn't be as entertaining and addicting as MSNBC or FOX and not as boring as C-Span. Yellow journalism along with it's bias is the most significant symptom of the plague of ignorance in America.

THIS is one part of a two-part problem with the news - Television. 1/2 hour of passive engagement with the days events is not enough to understand them and do anything but latch onto the opinions of those presenting it to the passive viewer.


I am fine with opinion news outlets and opinion blogs, but the blogs should first give some sort of fair indicator that they have a target group on the political spectrum, otherwise they are directly manipulating people and contributing to this plague.

What if their target group is simply the truth?

Here's the problem with the news today - it's the New York Times taking a decidedly pro-government position in the contest between the US and Julian Assange.

Assange, love him or hate him, is a reporter who used a source to put forth information to the public. After making a mistake in this regard once prior, he scrubs the information for security issues and urges the media outlets who reprint it to do the same (which a government liaison could easily assist with once they know the info is out there, but do not).

It's CNN taking a pro-government position in the assassination of al Alwaki...a flagrant violation of the 4th - 8th amendments to the constitution (which, despite being outdated, is all we got).

When the media started acting as a government lackey, and people started digesting their media through that propaganda box, THAT'S when both the media and the citizenry of this country began failing.

Add to that the absolute failure of the Executive, Legislative, and most recently the Judicial branch of our government, all 5 branches are in complete failure (the media and citizens are no less important in the checks and balances process than the 3 official branches of government).

AKA - we're f*cked

BTW - this is why anarchy won't work. here we are with things being public and despite the obvious call to action, almost no one is heeding the call. if we can't do it in a public set-up, how the f*ck are we gonna do so in a private one, because I don't care what form of government/non-government you choose - from time to time, major adjustments need to be made, but the youth of this country are too apathetic, selfish or cowardly to do anything, instead turning to systems which would feed the power monopolies we face that are working unopposed.

And you're b!tching about bias. Bias, against the government, is exactly what our news should be, and was always meant to be.

WAKE THE F*CK UP, MAN.

This is hilarious and idiotic.

You drink the cool-aid like all other idiots that latch on to biased news, saying "My news source isn't biased, your's is biased, mine is simply stating the truth".

This is a blatant lie that you use to assure yourself that you only getting your sources from HuffPost and MSNBC is fine, because they aren't biased, they simply are "telling the truth". You mean like Huff's article on how somehow if you believe a certain ideology, that makes you more intelligent? (How one of their articles said liberals are inherently more intelligent than conservatives, what a load of bull!).

You are the perfect example of what I am talking about, I even was fair in this post and went on to say how both sides are about equal in their yellow journalism bias (most are).

I am fine with entertaining, biased news, but they shouldn't make themselves out to be a legitimate source of information if they are biased (Meaning MSNBC, WaPo, FOX and Redstate should all say something like "Your news with a liberal/conservative slant". I thought better of you malcolm, but apparently you are just another loser who sucks off the teet of the lame stream media.
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3/2/2013 10:37:04 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/1/2013 11:07:46 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/1/2013 5:17:34 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
The news/media's job is to report the daily news, not shape it. I feel that all too often media outlets potray themselves as "Non-Biased", yet anyone who is even moderately informed by outside media and moderately intelligent can tell they are cramming their personal bias and lies down the average ignoramus's throat. This happens with large and small media, and is distributed almost evenly among the right (more notorious bias is redstate and FOX, plenty more small news sources), and the left (Washington Post, MSNBC, Huff. Post, etc.).

I think that while the media should include controversial questions and try to get people engaged in politics, bias is the wrong way to do it. Basically, they shouldn't be as entertaining and addicting as MSNBC or FOX and not as boring as C-Span. Yellow journalism along with it's bias is the most significant symptom of the plague of ignorance in America.

I am fine with opinion news outlets and opinion blogs, but the blogs should first give some sort of fair indicator that they have a target group on the political spectrum, otherwise they are directly manipulating people and contributing to this plague.

Essentially what you are saying is that news outlets shouldn't be a business. Until you can find another way to fund these outlets without politicians deciding what gets reported, that is not realistic. The result is that entertainment becomes first priority.

Drama is what makes political news entertaining, and you don't get drama by making both sides seem perfectly reasonable. No one really cares if you come on and say that there are things you prefer the President would do differently to improve the economy. But claim that he is destroying us with socialism (in a way that sounds like you know what you are talking about) and people will follow what you have to say every night.

No, you are not being receptive to my point. News can be entertaining without being manipulative to people and attempting to HIDE it's bias. They can use controversy to catch people's attention. They could put at the front of their outlet "Some Argue that Obama is a Socialist". Instead of "Obama, a Socialist?"

Which seems more fair, the first or second? Both are still eye catching, one is more fair and balanced.
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3/2/2013 10:39:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm not lying Malcolm, I did like you, you did a decent job of representing the opposing view. Now I realize you are kind of a hack, you also seem deluded and like you are too stubborn to be receptive to ideas that even slightly contradict your own.
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3/2/2013 11:11:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/2/2013 10:25:37 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:

This is hilarious and idiotic.

You drink the cool-aid like all other idiots that latch on to biased news, saying "My news source isn't biased, your's is biased, mine is simply stating the truth".

This is a blatant lie that you use to assure yourself that you only getting your sources from HuffPost and MSNBC is fine, because they aren't biased, they simply are "telling the truth". You mean like Huff's article on how somehow if you believe a certain ideology, that makes you more intelligent? (How one of their articles said liberals are inherently more intelligent than conservatives, what a load of bull!).

You are the perfect example of what I am talking about, I even was fair in this post and went on to say how both sides are about equal in their yellow journalism bias (most are).

I am fine with entertaining, biased news, but they shouldn't make themselves out to be a legitimate source of information if they are biased (Meaning MSNBC, WaPo, FOX and Redstate should all say something like "Your news with a liberal/conservative slant". I thought better of you malcolm, but apparently you are just another loser who sucks off the teet of the lame stream media.

I don't watch TV and I dont read HuffPost unless it's a former senator writing about the senate, or something comedy related,

Most of that was derived from the constitution.

Again, I assert that TV and the fact that the media is in bed with the government now is the problem and that bias is a good thing and exactly what the founding fathers had in mind (Ben Franklin was a prolific journalist and incredibly biased...also very progressive for his time).
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3/2/2013 11:21:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/2/2013 11:11:06 AM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 3/2/2013 10:25:37 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:

This is hilarious and idiotic.

You drink the cool-aid like all other idiots that latch on to biased news, saying "My news source isn't biased, your's is biased, mine is simply stating the truth".

This is a blatant lie that you use to assure yourself that you only getting your sources from HuffPost and MSNBC is fine, because they aren't biased, they simply are "telling the truth". You mean like Huff's article on how somehow if you believe a certain ideology, that makes you more intelligent? (How one of their articles said liberals are inherently more intelligent than conservatives, what a load of bull!).

You are the perfect example of what I am talking about, I even was fair in this post and went on to say how both sides are about equal in their yellow journalism bias (most are).

I am fine with entertaining, biased news, but they shouldn't make themselves out to be a legitimate source of information if they are biased (Meaning MSNBC, WaPo, FOX and Redstate should all say something like "Your news with a liberal/conservative slant". I thought better of you malcolm, but apparently you are just another loser who sucks off the teet of the lame stream media.

I don't watch TV and I dont read HuffPost unless it's a former senator writing about the senate, or something comedy related,

Most of that was derived from the constitution.

Again, I assert that TV and the fact that the media is in bed with the government now is the problem and that bias is a good thing and exactly what the founding fathers had in mind (Ben Franklin was a prolific journalist and incredibly biased...also very progressive for his time).

Bias in itself is NOT bad, I never said that it was. It is bad if a media outlet pretends to be balanced, and has a hidden agenda/bias. People should decide for themselves what is 'moral', FOX and MSNBC shouldn't decide it for people.
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3/2/2013 11:21:46 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/2/2013 10:25:37 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/2/2013 12:12:52 AM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 3/1/2013 5:17:34 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
The news/media's job is to report the daily news, not shape it. I feel that all too often media outlets potray themselves as "Non-Biased", yet anyone who is even moderately informed by outside media and moderately intelligent can tell they are cramming their personal bias and lies down the average ignoramus's throat. This happens with large and small media, and is distributed almost evenly among the right (more notorious bias is redstate and FOX, plenty more small news sources), and the left (Washington Post, MSNBC, Huff. Post, etc.).

I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

The media's job is to be a check on the power of government by informing the public of their goings on.

Realize as well that freedom of the press is embedded in the same amendment to the constitution which holds your freedom of speech. It is necessarily their jobs to provide an analysis and conclusions based upon their journalistic findings.

"fair and balanced" is f*cking bullsh!t, and a neo-con buzz term used to get their own slant on the days events, despite how usually warped and incorrect it is, added in with the more realistic views presented by journalists who are unbiased when the news comes in, but necessarily biased after they have processed what that news means.

Someone who denies that the current global warming trend is majority created by humans doesn't deserve equal time in the news cycle as one of the 99.7% (or whatever it is now...pretty high is an understatement when describing that majority) of scientists who acknowledge the human factor in this global crisis.

The fact that you don't like the slant that the majority of journalists have upon the days events, simply because it doesn't jive with your personal political philosophy is not the problem of the media. It's a problem within yourself.


I think that while the media should include controversial questions and try to get people engaged in politics, bias is the wrong way to do it. Basically, they shouldn't be as entertaining and addicting as MSNBC or FOX and not as boring as C-Span. Yellow journalism along with it's bias is the most significant symptom of the plague of ignorance in America.

THIS is one part of a two-part problem with the news - Television. 1/2 hour of passive engagement with the days events is not enough to understand them and do anything but latch onto the opinions of those presenting it to the passive viewer.


I am fine with opinion news outlets and opinion blogs, but the blogs should first give some sort of fair indicator that they have a target group on the political spectrum, otherwise they are directly manipulating people and contributing to this plague.

What if their target group is simply the truth?

Here's the problem with the news today - it's the New York Times taking a decidedly pro-government position in the contest between the US and Julian Assange.

Assange, love him or hate him, is a reporter who used a source to put forth information to the public. After making a mistake in this regard once prior, he scrubs the information for security issues and urges the media outlets who reprint it to do the same (which a government liaison could easily assist with once they know the info is out there, but do not).

It's CNN taking a pro-government position in the assassination of al Alwaki...a flagrant violation of the 4th - 8th amendments to the constitution (which, despite being outdated, is all we got).

When the media started acting as a government lackey, and people started digesting their media through that propaganda box, THAT'S when both the media and the citizenry of this country began failing.

Add to that the absolute failure of the Executive, Legislative, and most recently the Judicial branch of our government, all 5 branches are in complete failure (the media and citizens are no less important in the checks and balances process than the 3 official branches of government).

AKA - we're f*cked

BTW - this is why anarchy won't work. here we are with things being public and despite the obvious call to action, almost no one is heeding the call. if we can't do it in a public set-up, how the f*ck are we gonna do so in a private one, because I don't care what form of government/non-government you choose - from time to time, major adjustments need to be made, but the youth of this country are too apathetic, selfish or cowardly to do anything, instead turning to systems which would feed the power monopolies we face that are working unopposed.

And you're b!tching about bias. Bias, against the government, is exactly what our news should be, and was always meant to be.

WAKE THE F*CK UP, MAN.



This is hilarious and idiotic.

You drink the cool-aid like all other idiots that latch on to biased news, saying "My news source isn't biased, your's is biased, mine is simply stating the truth".


He didnt say that at all....
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3/2/2013 11:40:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/2/2013 11:21:46 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/2/2013 10:25:37 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/2/2013 12:12:52 AM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 3/1/2013 5:17:34 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
The news/media's job is to report the daily news, not shape it. I feel that all too often media outlets potray themselves as "Non-Biased", yet anyone who is even moderately informed by outside media and moderately intelligent can tell they are cramming their personal bias and lies down the average ignoramus's throat. This happens with large and small media, and is distributed almost evenly among the right (more notorious bias is redstate and FOX, plenty more small news sources), and the left (Washington Post, MSNBC, Huff. Post, etc.).

I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

The media's job is to be a check on the power of government by informing the public of their goings on.

Realize as well that freedom of the press is embedded in the same amendment to the constitution which holds your freedom of speech. It is necessarily their jobs to provide an analysis and conclusions based upon their journalistic findings.

"fair and balanced" is f*cking bullsh!t, and a neo-con buzz term used to get their own slant on the days events, despite how usually warped and incorrect it is, added in with the more realistic views presented by journalists who are unbiased when the news comes in, but necessarily biased after they have processed what that news means.

Someone who denies that the current global warming trend is majority created by humans doesn't deserve equal time in the news cycle as one of the 99.7% (or whatever it is now...pretty high is an understatement when describing that majority) of scientists who acknowledge the human factor in this global crisis.

The fact that you don't like the slant that the majority of journalists have upon the days events, simply because it doesn't jive with your personal political philosophy is not the problem of the media. It's a problem within yourself.


I think that while the media should include controversial questions and try to get people engaged in politics, bias is the wrong way to do it. Basically, they shouldn't be as entertaining and addicting as MSNBC or FOX and not as boring as C-Span. Yellow journalism along with it's bias is the most significant symptom of the plague of ignorance in America.

THIS is one part of a two-part problem with the news - Television. 1/2 hour of passive engagement with the days events is not enough to understand them and do anything but latch onto the opinions of those presenting it to the passive viewer.


I am fine with opinion news outlets and opinion blogs, but the blogs should first give some sort of fair indicator that they have a target group on the political spectrum, otherwise they are directly manipulating people and contributing to this plague.

What if their target group is simply the truth?

Here's the problem with the news today - it's the New York Times taking a decidedly pro-government position in the contest between the US and Julian Assange.

Assange, love him or hate him, is a reporter who used a source to put forth information to the public. After making a mistake in this regard once prior, he scrubs the information for security issues and urges the media outlets who reprint it to do the same (which a government liaison could easily assist with once they know the info is out there, but do not).

It's CNN taking a pro-government position in the assassination of al Alwaki...a flagrant violation of the 4th - 8th amendments to the constitution (which, despite being outdated, is all we got).

When the media started acting as a government lackey, and people started digesting their media through that propaganda box, THAT'S when both the media and the citizenry of this country began failing.

Add to that the absolute failure of the Executive, Legislative, and most recently the Judicial branch of our government, all 5 branches are in complete failure (the media and citizens are no less important in the checks and balances process than the 3 official branches of government).

AKA - we're f*cked

BTW - this is why anarchy won't work. here we are with things being public and despite the obvious call to action, almost no one is heeding the call. if we can't do it in a public set-up, how the f*ck are we gonna do so in a private one, because I don't care what form of government/non-government you choose - from time to time, major adjustments need to be made, but the youth of this country are too apathetic, selfish or cowardly to do anything, instead turning to systems which would feed the power monopolies we face that are working unopposed.

And you're b!tching about bias. Bias, against the government, is exactly what our news should be, and was always meant to be.

WAKE THE F*CK UP, MAN.



This is hilarious and idiotic.

You drink the cool-aid like all other idiots that latch on to biased news, saying "My news source isn't biased, your's is biased, mine is simply stating the truth".


He didnt say that at all....

Yes he did, he said "what if a certain media's target group is the truth?"

He also only targeted rightist media outlets.

But he came off as a little weird and radical at first, I think passion got the best of him, and that's fine, it happens to all of us.
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3/2/2013 2:27:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/2/2013 11:40:08 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/2/2013 11:21:46 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/2/2013 10:25:37 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/2/2013 12:12:52 AM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 3/1/2013 5:17:34 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
The news/media's job is to report the daily news, not shape it. I feel that all too often media outlets potray themselves as "Non-Biased", yet anyone who is even moderately informed by outside media and moderately intelligent can tell they are cramming their personal bias and lies down the average ignoramus's throat. This happens with large and small media, and is distributed almost evenly among the right (more notorious bias is redstate and FOX, plenty more small news sources), and the left (Washington Post, MSNBC, Huff. Post, etc.).

I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

The media's job is to be a check on the power of government by informing the public of their goings on.

Realize as well that freedom of the press is embedded in the same amendment to the constitution which holds your freedom of speech. It is necessarily their jobs to provide an analysis and conclusions based upon their journalistic findings.

"fair and balanced" is f*cking bullsh!t, and a neo-con buzz term used to get their own slant on the days events, despite how usually warped and incorrect it is, added in with the more realistic views presented by journalists who are unbiased when the news comes in, but necessarily biased after they have processed what that news means.

Someone who denies that the current global warming trend is majority created by humans doesn't deserve equal time in the news cycle as one of the 99.7% (or whatever it is now...pretty high is an understatement when describing that majority) of scientists who acknowledge the human factor in this global crisis.

The fact that you don't like the slant that the majority of journalists have upon the days events, simply because it doesn't jive with your personal political philosophy is not the problem of the media. It's a problem within yourself.


I think that while the media should include controversial questions and try to get people engaged in politics, bias is the wrong way to do it. Basically, they shouldn't be as entertaining and addicting as MSNBC or FOX and not as boring as C-Span. Yellow journalism along with it's bias is the most significant symptom of the plague of ignorance in America.

THIS is one part of a two-part problem with the news - Television. 1/2 hour of passive engagement with the days events is not enough to understand them and do anything but latch onto the opinions of those presenting it to the passive viewer.


I am fine with opinion news outlets and opinion blogs, but the blogs should first give some sort of fair indicator that they have a target group on the political spectrum, otherwise they are directly manipulating people and contributing to this plague.

What if their target group is simply the truth?

Here's the problem with the news today - it's the New York Times taking a decidedly pro-government position in the contest between the US and Julian Assange.

Assange, love him or hate him, is a reporter who used a source to put forth information to the public. After making a mistake in this regard once prior, he scrubs the information for security issues and urges the media outlets who reprint it to do the same (which a government liaison could easily assist with once they know the info is out there, but do not).

It's CNN taking a pro-government position in the assassination of al Alwaki...a flagrant violation of the 4th - 8th amendments to the constitution (which, despite being outdated, is all we got).

When the media started acting as a government lackey, and people started digesting their media through that propaganda box, THAT'S when both the media and the citizenry of this country began failing.

Add to that the absolute failure of the Executive, Legislative, and most recently the Judicial branch of our government, all 5 branches are in complete failure (the media and citizens are no less important in the checks and balances process than the 3 official branches of government).

AKA - we're f*cked

BTW - this is why anarchy won't work. here we are with things being public and despite the obvious call to action, almost no one is heeding the call. if we can't do it in a public set-up, how the f*ck are we gonna do so in a private one, because I don't care what form of government/non-government you choose - from time to time, major adjustments need to be made, but the youth of this country are too apathetic, selfish or cowardly to do anything, instead turning to systems which would feed the power monopolies we face that are working unopposed.

And you're b!tching about bias. Bias, against the government, is exactly what our news should be, and was always meant to be.

WAKE THE F*CK UP, MAN.



This is hilarious and idiotic.

You drink the cool-aid like all other idiots that latch on to biased news, saying "My news source isn't biased, your's is biased, mine is simply stating the truth".


He didnt say that at all....

Yes he did, he said "what if a certain media's target group is the truth?"

He also only targeted rightist media outlets.

But he came off as a little weird and radical at first, I think passion got the best of him, and that's fine, it happens to all of us.

No...his argument was that the media is now biased towards statism, when it should be a staunchly anti-government institution. Actually read his reply, he criticized the New York Times and CNN...hardly conservative outlets.
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