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FrackJack
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3/14/2013 10:41:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I have a school project and I have to make a report of why nuclear proliferation is beneficial to the world and debate a another classmate. However I was forced in this situation my idiot teacher, so I DONT support NP. Please help.
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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Cermank
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3/14/2013 10:54:46 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Go for the stance that NPT is discriminatory. For nuclear missiles to be a ironclad safeguard, everyone should have the ability to obtain nuclear weapons. Bring in the moral angle by saying everyones equal and no one has the right to stop others from gaining knowledge of obtaining means that would protect their nation.

Bring in the economic factor too, if you want. Economically beneficial for nations supplying the knowledge and technical know how.
FrackJack
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3/14/2013 10:57:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 10:54:46 AM, Cermank wrote:
Go for the stance that NPT is discriminatory. For nuclear missiles to be a ironclad safeguard, everyone should have the ability to obtain nuclear weapons. Bring in the moral angle by saying everyones equal and no one has the right to stop others from gaining knowledge of obtaining means that would protect their nation.

Bring in the economic factor too, if you want. Economically beneficial for nations supplying the knowledge and technical know how.

kk.
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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3/14/2013 12:17:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Nuclear weapons are needed to deter violence. A monopoly on that kind of power is not a good thing at all.
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3/14/2013 12:24:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 12:17:14 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
Nuclear weapons are needed to deter violence. A monopoly on that kind of power is not a good thing at all.

At 3/14/2013 10:43:33 AM, FrackJack wrote:
Can I have some articles with this?
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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bossyburrito
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3/14/2013 12:38:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 12:24:21 PM, FrackJack wrote:
At 3/14/2013 12:17:14 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
Nuclear weapons are needed to deter violence. A monopoly on that kind of power is not a good thing at all.

At 3/14/2013 10:43:33 AM, FrackJack wrote:
Can I have some articles with this?

Here's a good one, though you have to be subscribed to Foreign Affairs to read the full thing.

I can sum it up in a few points:

Israel has a monopoly of nuclear power in the region
Iran and other nations should get nukes to balance power
Mutual destruction through nuclear war is likely
Iran is not suicidal

http://www.foreignaffairs.com...
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
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FrackJack
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3/14/2013 1:51:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 12:38:34 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/14/2013 12:24:21 PM, FrackJack wrote:
At 3/14/2013 12:17:14 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
Nuclear weapons are needed to deter violence. A monopoly on that kind of power is not a good thing at all.

At 3/14/2013 10:43:33 AM, FrackJack wrote:
Can I have some articles with this?

Here's a good one, though you have to be subscribed to Foreign Affairs to read the full thing.

I can sum it up in a few points:

Israel has a monopoly of nuclear power in the region
Iran and other nations should get nukes to balance power
Mutual destruction through nuclear war is likely
Iran is not suicidal

http://www.foreignaffairs.com...

Devils advocate: Would it be better to ban Nuke all at once? That would bring stability.
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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darkkermit
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3/14/2013 1:52:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Mutual assured destruction and nuclear peace is a good argument. Basically if both parties have a nuclear weapon, then the two are not going to engage in one another with war, since doing so would ensure their structure. Case example, Soviet Union and USA cold war.
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FrackJack
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3/14/2013 1:53:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 1:52:28 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mutual assured destruction and nuclear peace is a good argument. Basically if both parties have a nuclear weapon, then the two are not going to engage in one another with war, since doing so would ensure their structure. Case example, Soviet Union and USA cold war.

But what if one decides to attack the other? Would it be better to ban all nukes?
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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darkkermit
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3/14/2013 1:56:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 1:53:44 PM, FrackJack wrote:
At 3/14/2013 1:52:28 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mutual assured destruction and nuclear peace is a good argument. Basically if both parties have a nuclear weapon, then the two are not going to engage in one another with war, since doing so would ensure their structure. Case example, Soviet Union and USA cold war.

But what if one decides to attack the other? Would it be better to ban all nukes?

They would not, because an attack would lead to mutually assured destruction. It would be completely irrational to do so.

Banning all nuclear weapons would be unfeasible since it is unenforceable. If a nation created a nuclear weapon, what would you do? Nuke them.
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3/14/2013 3:22:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 3:03:30 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org...
http://en.wikipedia.org...
https://www.mtholyoke.edu...
http://www.debate.org...

Book: "The spread of Nuclear Wepons: A debate renewed" . By Scott D. Sagan & Kenneth N. Waltz

Summary: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu...

Keep an open mind, & Good luck
I cannot write in English, because of the treacherous spelling. When I am reading, I only hear it and am unable to remember what the written word looks like."
"Albert Einstein

http://www.twainquotes.com... , http://thewritecorner.wordpress.com... , http://www.onlinecollegecourses.com...
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3/14/2013 3:37:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 3:22:06 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 3/14/2013 3:03:30 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org...
http://en.wikipedia.org...
https://www.mtholyoke.edu...
http://www.debate.org...

Book: "The spread of Nuclear Weapons: A debate renewed" . By Scott D. Sagan & Kenneth N. Waltz

Summary: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu...

Keep an open mind, & Good luck

BTW I don't agree with what Waltz says, & you don't have to either. Just hear, understand, & present the arguments. It's also important that you know the other side well, to know what to expect from the other side. (It's also good to balance yourself out, since reading tons of pro NP, may make your view/opinions unbalanced.)
I cannot write in English, because of the treacherous spelling. When I am reading, I only hear it and am unable to remember what the written word looks like."
"Albert Einstein

http://www.twainquotes.com... , http://thewritecorner.wordpress.com... , http://www.onlinecollegecourses.com...
FrackJack
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3/15/2013 7:46:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 3:37:52 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 3/14/2013 3:22:06 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 3/14/2013 3:03:30 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org...
http://en.wikipedia.org...
https://www.mtholyoke.edu...
http://www.debate.org...

Book: "The spread of Nuclear Weapons: A debate renewed" . By Scott D. Sagan & Kenneth N. Waltz

Summary: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu...

Keep an open mind, & Good luck

BTW I don't agree with what Waltz says, & you don't have to either. Just hear, understand, & present the arguments. It's also important that you know the other side well, to know what to expect from the other side. (It's also good to balance yourself out, since reading tons of pro NP, may make your view/opinions unbalanced.)

Thank you. I keep this in mind.
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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