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North Korea Threatens US, possible war?

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3/14/2013 9:52:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Announcing their own preemptive strike? Sounds like peacocking to me.
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3/14/2013 9:55:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 9:47:42 PM, pozessed wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

What do you think?

Any peaceful solutions?

No war....Us hasn't had the courage to go to war since 1941. Maybe China will declare war on US,,,,now that would be interesting.
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3/14/2013 10:03:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Any solution that ends with Kim Jong-un dead would be peaceful.
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3/14/2013 10:23:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
What a Joke.

Also, luxury Items aren't already being sanctioned??? No wonder our sanctions don't work.
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3/15/2013 6:40:20 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/14/2013 9:47:42 PM, pozessed wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

What do you think?

Any peaceful solutions?

We could once again appease them, lift sanctions and give them more money. But chances are they will use the money to build more weapons and then threaten us again for more money. The best thing we could do is try to get a korean to infiltrate their gov't and try to get in the line of succession, then assassinate all before him so the infiltrator can turn their gov't more moderate.
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3/15/2013 9:29:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 6:40:20 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/14/2013 9:47:42 PM, pozessed wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

What do you think?

Any peaceful solutions?

We could once again appease them, lift sanctions and give them more money. But chances are they will use the money to build more weapons and then threaten us again for more money. The best thing we could do is try to get a korean to infiltrate their gov't and try to get in the line of succession, then assassinate all before him so the infiltrator can turn their gov't more moderate.

When was appeasement ever our policy in north Korea? Why would we give them any money? Best thing to do would be opening up trade, harder to hate america when your drinking coke and watching die hard. Eventually get those Koreans on the internet and the regime will crumble. I doubt killing dear leader will do much, something tells me that 28 year old goofball isn't calling all the shots.
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3/15/2013 9:32:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I asked a teacher at my high school.

He says that North Korea wants aid and free trade, but wants keep their "tough" appearance, and so threaten us, thinking to get their supplies for appeasement.

I don't know if that is true, but it is interesting.
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3/15/2013 9:44:16 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
These are just the same games N. Korea has ever played. They're not a threat. Sure they devote a large portion of their GDP to military pursuits, but nobody ever mentions the fact that they're dirt poor.
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3/15/2013 11:19:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 9:44:16 AM, MichaelGonzales wrote:
These are just the same games N. Korea has ever played. They're not a threat. Sure they devote a large portion of their GDP to military pursuits, but nobody ever mentions the fact that they're dirt poor.

I agree. North Korea doesn't have the guts to attack America. We would obliterate them, and it would destroy the remnants of their economy.

I believe only a few months ago they launched a rocket that only stayed in the sky for about 90 seconds. Pathetic.
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3/15/2013 11:39:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 9:29:06 AM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 6:40:20 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/14/2013 9:47:42 PM, pozessed wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

What do you think?

Any peaceful solutions?

We could once again appease them, lift sanctions and give them more money. But chances are they will use the money to build more weapons and then threaten us again for more money. The best thing we could do is try to get a korean to infiltrate their gov't and try to get in the line of succession, then assassinate all before him so the infiltrator can turn their gov't more moderate.

When was appeasement ever our policy in north Korea? Why would we give them any money? Best thing to do would be opening up trade, harder to hate america when your drinking coke and watching die hard. Eventually get those Koreans on the internet and the regime will crumble. I doubt killing dear leader will do much, something tells me that 28 year old goofball isn't calling all the shots.

I like the way you think. Kudos.
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3/15/2013 11:53:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 11:19:09 AM, Contra wrote:
I believe only a few months ago they launched a rocket that only stayed in the sky for about 90 seconds. Pathetic.

Meanwhile, in the richest part of the world: We put Wall-E on Mars.
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3/15/2013 12:01:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 9:29:06 AM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 6:40:20 AM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/14/2013 9:47:42 PM, pozessed wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

What do you think?

Any peaceful solutions?

We could once again appease them, lift sanctions and give them more money. But chances are they will use the money to build more weapons and then threaten us again for more money. The best thing we could do is try to get a korean to infiltrate their gov't and try to get in the line of succession, then assassinate all before him so the infiltrator can turn their gov't more moderate.

When was appeasement ever our policy in north Korea?

http://www.fas.org...

Why would we give them any money? Best thing to do would be opening up trade, harder to hate america when your drinking coke and watching die hard.

I agree this might help, but remember that by opening up trade we are funding a nation that wants to do a preemptive military and nuclear strike against us.

Eventually get those Koreans on the internet and the regime will crumble.

That's why their leader would never allow it.

I doubt killing dear leader will do much, something tells me that 28 year old goofball isn't calling all the shots.

I agree, but I said if we got a Korean to infiltrate their gov't and get to the line of succession, we could get this person to rule the country more moderately.
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3/15/2013 12:02:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 9:44:16 AM, MichaelGonzales wrote:
These are just the same games N. Korea has ever played. They're not a threat. Sure they devote a large portion of their GDP to military pursuits, but nobody ever mentions the fact that they're dirt poor.

Rwanda killed half a million of their own people, and their significantly poorer than N. Korea. Also, all it takes is one nuclear bomb that hits a high density area to kill half a million+ people.
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3/15/2013 12:06:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 12:02:09 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/15/2013 9:44:16 AM, MichaelGonzales wrote:
These are just the same games N. Korea has ever played. They're not a threat. Sure they devote a large portion of their GDP to military pursuits, but nobody ever mentions the fact that they're dirt poor.

Rwanda killed half a million of their own people, and their significantly poorer than N. Korea. Also, all it takes is one nuclear bomb that hits a high density area to kill half a million+ people.

Most of the coast has a high density pop, mind you.
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3/15/2013 12:11:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
With as hostile as NK is to its people, you'd think all we'd have to do is drop some flyers over there that advertise how mistreated they are. I'm talking paer flyers that people hand out on the street.
It seems like all the people there may need is some information.
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3/15/2013 12:23:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 12:11:44 PM, pozessed wrote:
With as hostile as NK is to its people, you'd think all we'd have to do is drop some flyers over there that advertise how mistreated they are. I'm talking paer flyers that people hand out on the street.
It seems like all the people there may need is some information.

I agree, but in the most secretive state in the world, it will be hard to get the gov't to budge on giving the public outside info.
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3/15/2013 12:25:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I watched some NK propaganda last night. You can totally understand their hatred for the US and if i didn't know any better and a citizen of NK, would totally want to go to war with the US.
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3/15/2013 12:27:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 12:11:44 PM, pozessed wrote:
With as hostile as NK is to its people, you'd think all we'd have to do is drop some flyers over there that advertise how mistreated they are. I'm talking paer flyers that people hand out on the street.
It seems like all the people there may need is some information.

This would be taken as a provocation by the North Koreans. South Korean activists incidently sent ballons over the border despite the SK governments efforts to block them: http://www.nytimes.com...
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3/15/2013 12:29:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 12:23:58 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/15/2013 12:11:44 PM, pozessed wrote:
With as hostile as NK is to its people, you'd think all we'd have to do is drop some flyers over there that advertise how mistreated they are. I'm talking paer flyers that people hand out on the street.
It seems like all the people there may need is some information.

I agree, but in the most secretive state in the world, it will be hard to get the gov't to budge on giving the public outside info.

Information is like food my friend. Its easy to seductive or repulsive when you smell it and delicious or disgusting when you ingest it.
My point is, if they just need a whiff, that should be easy to give them.
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3/15/2013 12:31:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 12:29:23 PM, pozessed wrote:
At 3/15/2013 12:23:58 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 3/15/2013 12:11:44 PM, pozessed wrote:
With as hostile as NK is to its people, you'd think all we'd have to do is drop some flyers over there that advertise how mistreated they are. I'm talking paer flyers that people hand out on the street.
It seems like all the people there may need is some information.

I agree, but in the most secretive state in the world, it will be hard to get the gov't to budge on giving the public outside info.

Information is like food my friend. Its easy to seductive or repulsive when you smell it and delicious or disgusting when you ingest it.
My point is, if they just need a whiff, that should be easy to give them.

It's easily seductive*
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3/15/2013 1:23:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I don't think N. Korea have any real incentive or capability of ever declare war on US. chance is they might never even defeat S.Korea and Japan in open combat.

I agreed with the above statement,it is a ruse, something to give them more trading power but I am quite sure that they will try to keep their nuke no matter what (may only give up intercontinental capability). After the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think no country will ever trust the liberal use of force from the US again (if they are on a less than friendly term). They need some guarantee that their country will not be randomly invaded. It is a mistake, if you asked me, a resurgent of gun boat policy of old which serve nothing but to give more incentive for country like Iran or N.Korea to have their own nuke.
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3/15/2013 1:46:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:23:54 PM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
I don't think N. Korea have any real incentive or capability of ever declare war on US. chance is they might never even defeat S.Korea and Japan in open combat.

I agreed with the above statement,it is a ruse, something to give them more trading power but I am quite sure that they will try to keep their nuke no matter what (may only give up intercontinental capability). After the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think no country will ever trust the liberal use of force from the US again (if they are on a less than friendly term). They need some guarantee that their country will not be randomly invaded. It is a mistake, if you asked me, a resurgent of gun boat policy of old which serve nothing but to give more incentive for country like Iran or N.Korea to have their own nuke.

I agree with everything except the last part. The gun boats are there to help defend Taiwan and South Korea, (and Japan partially), since China thinks it owns Taiwan, and North Korea thinks it owns S. Korea.