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A Tale of Two Americas: Texas v. California

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3/30/2013 4:19:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Bill O'Reilly had an amazing talking points segment a few months back on comparing Texas and California. They are very similar yet very different. He shows very well that economic freedom works!


Texas voted for Romney by about 1.3 million votes. California voted for Obama by about 2.3 million votes. Texas is a conservative state, California dominated by liberal Americans. Both states have more minority voters than white voters.
The overriding tradition of Texas is that self-reliance rules. Most voters there don't want government telling them what to do. Therefore, they don't have a lot of social services. No state income tax in Texas. However, debt in the Lone Star State is about $40 billion and there is a balanced budget amendment.
By contrast California owes an astounding $167 billion. And it's running an annual deficit of about $9 billion, money that can never, never be paid back. And what is California getting for all of that? High school graduation rate; 37th out of 50 states. Per capita income, $44,500. But there is a 10.1 percent unemployment rate. Crime number one, there are more prisoners in California than any other state.
Let's take a look at Texas high school graduation rate ranks 44th slightly above California. Per capita income about $40,000 bucks per year. But there is relatively low unemployment 6.6 percent. Convicts in state prisons ranked number two behind California.
So you can see there is not a big difference in the economic and social stats but there is a big difference in mind set. California has many more social welfare programs. Golden State also has many more business regulations.


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3/30/2013 7:10:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 4:19:18 PM, DoubtingDave wrote:
Bill O'Reilly had an amazing talking points segment a few months back on comparing Texas and California. They are very similar yet very different. He shows very well that economic freedom works!


Texas voted for Romney by about 1.3 million votes. California voted for Obama by about 2.3 million votes. Texas is a conservative state, California dominated by liberal Americans. Both states have more minority voters than white voters.
The overriding tradition of Texas is that self-reliance rules. Most voters there don't want government telling them what to do. Therefore, they don't have a lot of social services. No state income tax in Texas. However, debt in the Lone Star State is about $40 billion and there is a balanced budget amendment.
By contrast California owes an astounding $167 billion. And it's running an annual deficit of about $9 billion, money that can never, never be paid back. And what is California getting for all of that? High school graduation rate; 37th out of 50 states. Per capita income, $44,500. But there is a 10.1 percent unemployment rate. Crime number one, there are more prisoners in California than any other state.
Let's take a look at Texas high school graduation rate ranks 44th slightly above California. Per capita income about $40,000 bucks per year. But there is relatively low unemployment 6.6 percent. Convicts in state prisons ranked number two behind California.
So you can see there is not a big difference in the economic and social stats but there is a big difference in mind set. California has many more social welfare programs. Golden State also has many more business regulations.


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3/30/2013 7:34:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 4:19:18 PM, DoubtingDave wrote:
Bill O'Reilly had an amazing talking points segment a few months back on comparing Texas and California. They are very similar yet very different. He shows very well that economic freedom works!


Texas voted for Romney by about 1.3 million votes. California voted for Obama by about 2.3 million votes. Texas is a conservative state, California dominated by liberal Americans. Both states have more minority voters than white voters.
The overriding tradition of Texas is that self-reliance rules. Most voters there don't want government telling them what to do. Therefore, they don't have a lot of social services. No state income tax in Texas. However, debt in the Lone Star State is about $40 billion and there is a balanced budget amendment.
By contrast California owes an astounding $167 billion. And it's running an annual deficit of about $9 billion, money that can never, never be paid back. And what is California getting for all of that? High school graduation rate; 37th out of 50 states. Per capita income, $44,500. But there is a 10.1 percent unemployment rate. Crime number one, there are more prisoners in California than any other state.
Let's take a look at Texas high school graduation rate ranks 44th slightly above California. Per capita income about $40,000 bucks per year. But there is relatively low unemployment 6.6 percent. Convicts in state prisons ranked number two behind California.
So you can see there is not a big difference in the economic and social stats but there is a big difference in mind set. California has many more social welfare programs. Golden State also has many more business regulations.


Does Bill O'Reilly not know that 44th isnt better then 37th?

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3/30/2013 7:49:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
California likes to pretend it's liberal. But whenever it comes time to vote on any propositions, the opposite is obvious.
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3/30/2013 7:55:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 7:49:20 PM, FREEDO wrote:
California likes to pretend it's liberal. But whenever it comes time to vote on any propositions, the opposite is obvious.

Socially maybe but fiscally they're liberal in every sense
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3/30/2013 7:58:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 7:34:32 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/30/2013 4:19:18 PM, DoubtingDave wrote:
Bill O'Reilly had an amazing talking points segment a few months back on comparing Texas and California. They are very similar yet very different. He shows very well that economic freedom works!


Texas voted for Romney by about 1.3 million votes. California voted for Obama by about 2.3 million votes. Texas is a conservative state, California dominated by liberal Americans. Both states have more minority voters than white voters.
The overriding tradition of Texas is that self-reliance rules. Most voters there don't want government telling them what to do. Therefore, they don't have a lot of social services. No state income tax in Texas. However, debt in the Lone Star State is about $40 billion and there is a balanced budget amendment.
By contrast California owes an astounding $167 billion. And it's running an annual deficit of about $9 billion, money that can never, never be paid back. And what is California getting for all of that? High school graduation rate; 37th out of 50 states. Per capita income, $44,500. But there is a 10.1 percent unemployment rate. Crime number one, there are more prisoners in California than any other state.
Let's take a look at Texas high school graduation rate ranks 44th slightly above California. Per capita income about $40,000 bucks per year. But there is relatively low unemployment 6.6 percent. Convicts in state prisons ranked number two behind California.
So you can see there is not a big difference in the economic and social stats but there is a big difference in mind set. California has many more social welfare programs. Golden State also has many more business regulations.


Does Bill O'Reilly not know that 44th isnt better then 37th?

Apparently not. Those were my exact thoughts. ROFL.


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3/30/2013 7:58:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 7:55:36 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/30/2013 7:49:20 PM, FREEDO wrote:
California likes to pretend it's liberal. But whenever it comes time to vote on any propositions, the opposite is obvious.

Socially maybe but fiscally they're liberal in every sense

California elected Reagan, first as governor and then as president.
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3/30/2013 8:02:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 7:58:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 3/30/2013 7:55:36 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/30/2013 7:49:20 PM, FREEDO wrote:
California likes to pretend it's liberal. But whenever it comes time to vote on any propositions, the opposite is obvious.

Socially maybe but fiscally they're liberal in every sense

California elected Reagan, first as governor and then as president.

That evidence that California is fiscally conservative?
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3/30/2013 8:07:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 7:58:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 3/30/2013 7:55:36 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/30/2013 7:49:20 PM, FREEDO wrote:
California likes to pretend it's liberal. But whenever it comes time to vote on any propositions, the opposite is obvious.

Socially maybe but fiscally they're liberal in every sense

California elected Reagan, first as governor and then as president.

He was quite irresponsible with fiscal issues. He issued the largest tax increase of any governor prior to him - the largest in the states history up to that point.

When Reagan first stepped into office, the US debt was 907,701,000,000.00. In 1988 when he left office, it was over 2 trilliion! 2,602,337,712,041.16 to be exact http://www.treasurydirect.gov...
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"And whats so bad about a Holy war? By Holy war, I mean a war which would aim to subdue others under Islam." -Ahmed.M

"The free market didn't create the massive wealth in the country, WW2 did." -malcomxy

"Independant federal regulators make our capitalist society possible." -Erik_Erikson
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3/30/2013 8:09:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 8:07:28 PM, DoubtingDave wrote:
At 3/30/2013 7:58:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 3/30/2013 7:55:36 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/30/2013 7:49:20 PM, FREEDO wrote:
California likes to pretend it's liberal. But whenever it comes time to vote on any propositions, the opposite is obvious.

Socially maybe but fiscally they're liberal in every sense

California elected Reagan, first as governor and then as president.

He was quite irresponsible with fiscal issues. He issued the largest tax increase of any governor prior to him - the largest in the states history up to that point.

When Reagan first stepped into office, the US debt was 907,701,000,000.00. In 1988 when he left office, it was over 2 trilliion! 2,602,337,712,041.16 to be exact http://www.treasurydirect.gov...

Compare to Bill Clinton who raised the national debt slightly more than 1 trillion dollars. Slightly above 4 trillion when he came in and slightly above 5 trillion when he left.
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"Evolutionists think that people evolved from rocks" -Scotty

"And whats so bad about a Holy war? By Holy war, I mean a war which would aim to subdue others under Islam." -Ahmed.M

"The free market didn't create the massive wealth in the country, WW2 did." -malcomxy

"Independant federal regulators make our capitalist society possible." -Erik_Erikson
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3/30/2013 11:43:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 7:34:32 PM, imabench wrote:
Does Bill O'Reilly not know that 44th isnt better then 37th?

It's still fvcking terrible.
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3/31/2013 12:18:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/30/2013 7:34:32 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/30/2013 4:19:18 PM, DoubtingDave wrote:
Bill O'Reilly had an amazing talking points segment a few months back on comparing Texas and California. They are very similar yet very different. He shows very well that economic freedom works!


Texas voted for Romney by about 1.3 million votes. California voted for Obama by about 2.3 million votes. Texas is a conservative state, California dominated by liberal Americans. Both states have more minority voters than white voters.
The overriding tradition of Texas is that self-reliance rules. Most voters there don't want government telling them what to do. Therefore, they don't have a lot of social services. No state income tax in Texas. However, debt in the Lone Star State is about $40 billion and there is a balanced budget amendment.
By contrast California owes an astounding $167 billion. And it's running an annual deficit of about $9 billion, money that can never, never be paid back. And what is California getting for all of that? High school graduation rate; 37th out of 50 states. Per capita income, $44,500. But there is a 10.1 percent unemployment rate. Crime number one, there are more prisoners in California than any other state.
Let's take a look at Texas high school graduation rate ranks 44th slightly above California. Per capita income about $40,000 bucks per year. But there is relatively low unemployment 6.6 percent. Convicts in state prisons ranked number two behind California.
So you can see there is not a big difference in the economic and social stats but there is a big difference in mind set. California has many more social welfare programs. Golden State also has many more business regulations.


Does Bill O'Reilly not know that 44th isnt better then 37th?

It's possible he claimed 50 was best, because the Texans overal rank better. So he must have inverted the order we're used to.
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