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Wallstreetatheist
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4/25/2013 12:10:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
What percent of terrorism do you think is Islamic ideology and what percent is US military interventionism?

I'd have to go 33% and 66%.
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Korashk
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4/25/2013 1:52:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/25/2013 12:10:21 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What percent of terrorism do you think is Islamic ideology and what percent is US military interventionism?

I'd have to go 33% and 66%.

It's probably more like +/-10% and +/-90%. I can't imagine that many terrorist acts would be committed against US troops had our government not oppressed, overthrown and exploited them for 50 years prior to 9/11. You also have to consider that Islamic Ideology supposedly only advocates attacking people that fvck with their land and people, so it's arguable that nigh 100% of the terrorism can be attributed to US interventionism.
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4/25/2013 2:07:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
So in that sense it wouldn't be terrorism, they'd be justly defending their land. Right?
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4/25/2013 2:11:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/25/2013 2:07:58 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
So in that sense it wouldn't be terrorism, they'd be justly defending their land. Right?

Kinda yeah, although the reality is never that clear cut. Obviously stuff like the 9/11 attack doesn't reasonably qualify as defense but many attacks on American soldiers overseas probably would.
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4/25/2013 6:12:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The Lizard thinks we'd first have to define terrorism. I've yet to see a definition of terrorism that doesn't better suit the actions of the U.S. than the actions of the people we've been told are terrorists. I'm not saying that these guys are righteous freedom-fighters or anything, but we create a lot of our own problems in this area, so in a way a good deal of the terrorism they perpetrate also counts as terrorism on our part, since we pushed them into it.
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4/25/2013 6:54:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/25/2013 12:10:21 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What percent of terrorism do you think is Islamic ideology and what percent is US military interventionism?

I'd have to go 33% and 66%.

Huh? I don't understand.

Islam only accounts for a fraction of terrorist groups. Most of them are based on nationalities, ethnicity, separatist movements, social movements (e.g. anarchy/communism) or mixtures (many pro-palestine terrorist organizations incorporated marxist theory).
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4/25/2013 8:13:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/25/2013 6:54:27 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/25/2013 12:10:21 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What percent of terrorism do you think is Islamic ideology and what percent is US military interventionism?

I'd have to go 33% and 66%.

Huh? I don't understand.

Islam only accounts for a fraction of terrorist groups. Most of them are based on nationalities, ethnicity, separatist movements, social movements (e.g. anarchy/communism) or mixtures (many pro-palestine terrorist organizations incorporated marxist theory).

I think he meant terrorist groups that target the United States. But indeed, most incidences of terrorism occurs as a result of ethnic/border conflict.
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4/25/2013 8:17:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/25/2013 8:13:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 4/25/2013 6:54:27 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/25/2013 12:10:21 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What percent of terrorism do you think is Islamic ideology and what percent is US military interventionism?

I'd have to go 33% and 66%.

Huh? I don't understand.

Islam only accounts for a fraction of terrorist groups. Most of them are based on nationalities, ethnicity, separatist movements, social movements (e.g. anarchy/communism) or mixtures (many pro-palestine terrorist organizations incorporated marxist theory).

I think he meant terrorist groups that target the United States. But indeed, most incidences of terrorism occurs as a result of ethnic/border conflict.
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