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DanT
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5/3/2013 9:12:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 8:49:49 AM, FrackJack wrote:
Age-Of-Consent laws.


Am I crazy?

No... Age of consent laws are completely arbitrary. The law differs from state to state. Most states, like most countries, have it at 16. Some states have it much lower. Some states have a higher age of consent for women, who mature faster, and some states have a higher age of consent for homosexuals.
The age of consent laws are also greatly flawed. If 2 15 year olds have sex, both can be charged with rape. If a 16 year old has sex with a 15 year old, the 16 year old can be charged with rape. In states where the female age of consent is higher, a guy can be charged with rape for having sex with an older woman.
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5/3/2013 9:54:04 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Age of consent operates on the same principles as racial discrimination.
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5/3/2013 10:48:18 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 9:12:03 AM, DanT wrote:
At 5/3/2013 8:49:49 AM, FrackJack wrote:
Age-Of-Consent laws.


Am I crazy?

No... Age of consent laws are completely arbitrary. The law differs from state to state. Most states, like most countries, have it at 16. Some states have it much lower. Some states have a higher age of consent for women, who mature faster, and some states have a higher age of consent for homosexuals.
The age of consent laws are also greatly flawed. If 2 15 year olds have sex, both can be charged with rape. If a 16 year old has sex with a 15 year old, the 16 year old can be charged with rape. In states where the female age of consent is higher, a guy can be charged with rape for having sex with an older woman.

If a 15-year old rapes a 16-year old? Is the 16-year old charged?
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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DanT
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5/3/2013 11:40:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 10:48:18 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 5/3/2013 9:12:03 AM, DanT wrote:
At 5/3/2013 8:49:49 AM, FrackJack wrote:
Age-Of-Consent laws.


Am I crazy?

No... Age of consent laws are completely arbitrary. The law differs from state to state. Most states, like most countries, have it at 16. Some states have it much lower. Some states have a higher age of consent for women, who mature faster, and some states have a higher age of consent for homosexuals.
The age of consent laws are also greatly flawed. If 2 15 year olds have sex, both can be charged with rape. If a 16 year old has sex with a 15 year old, the 16 year old can be charged with rape. In states where the female age of consent is higher, a guy can be charged with rape for having sex with an older woman.

If a 15-year old rapes a 16-year old? Is the 16-year old charged?

If A 15 year old boy forces himself on a 16 year old girl, he could claim that she raped him. In which case she would be charged, but it would be up to the courts to decide if she is guilty.
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5/3/2013 11:44:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
"The age of consent laws are also greatly flawed. If 2 15 year olds have sex, both can be charged with rape. If a 16 year old has sex with a 15 year old, the 16 year old can be charged with rape. In states where the female age of consent is higher, a guy can be charged with rape for having sex with an older woman."

This is false. Rape is defined by three years difference in age below 18 , and someone over and under 18.
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5/3/2013 11:54:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Flaws in the implementation of age of consent laws is no reason to be against the concept of it. If you are against it then what do you prefer; 21 year olds being allowed to have sex with 13 year olds?
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5/3/2013 12:00:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 11:54:31 AM, Double_R wrote:
Flaws in the implementation of age of consent laws is no reason to be against the concept of it. If you are against it then what do you prefer; 21 year olds being allowed to have sex with 13 year olds?

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: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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5/3/2013 2:34:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 12:00:32 PM, FrackJack wrote:
At 5/3/2013 11:54:31 AM, Double_R wrote:
Flaws in the implementation of age of consent laws is no reason to be against the concept of it. If you are against it then what do you prefer; 21 year olds being allowed to have sex with 13 year olds?

Strawman

It's really not.

Age of consent laws are legal barriers to dissuade older adults from taking advantage of children at a certain age.

If you want to lower the age of consent to 14 or 15, argue so.

But you can't say "get rid of age of consent" and then raise your eyebrows when a thirty years old and thirteen year old have "consensual" sex.
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5/3/2013 2:45:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 2:34:02 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 5/3/2013 12:00:32 PM, FrackJack wrote:
At 5/3/2013 11:54:31 AM, Double_R wrote:
Flaws in the implementation of age of consent laws is no reason to be against the concept of it. If you are against it then what do you prefer; 21 year olds being allowed to have sex with 13 year olds?

Strawman

It's really not.

Age of consent laws are legal barriers to dissuade older adults from taking advantage of children at a certain age.

If you want to lower the age of consent to 14 or 15, argue so.

But you can't say "get rid of age of consent" and then raise your eyebrows when a thirty years old and thirteen year old have "consensual" sex.

Exactly.
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5/3/2013 4:22:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Age of consent laws are arbitrary, but they need to be. It is a line in the sand.

If you are oppossed to age of consent, are you then also oppossed to an arbitrary level of retardation (IQ of 60, I think)? Did you know that in most states, retards cannot consent to sex, either, ever?
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5/3/2013 4:35:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 2:45:55 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 5/3/2013 2:34:02 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 5/3/2013 12:00:32 PM, FrackJack wrote:
At 5/3/2013 11:54:31 AM, Double_R wrote:
Flaws in the implementation of age of consent laws is no reason to be against the concept of it. If you are against it then what do you prefer; 21 year olds being allowed to have sex with 13 year olds?

Strawman

It's really not.

Age of consent laws are legal barriers to dissuade older adults from taking advantage of children at a certain age.

If you want to lower the age of consent to 14 or 15, argue so.

But you can't say "get rid of age of consent" and then raise your eyebrows when a thirty years old and thirteen year old have "consensual" sex.

Exactly.

I must chime in here and agree with Wnope and Double_R. However, I also agree with the OP and DanT. I think there needs to be boundaries, but there are great flaws in the age of consent laws which do need reform.
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