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Will America split in the coming decades?

Cowboy0108
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5/23/2013 11:20:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 11:13:37 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
You already posted this. No one cared then, and no one is going to care now.

It is actually a different question. But why does it bother you anyway. Just don't respond.
Other than the fact that I want to argue with people, I am bored.
Get over it.
darkkermit
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5/23/2013 11:32:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Yes, probably. I don't see it in the near term, but in the long term its a distinct possibility. At the very least it will lose territories. Nations don't stay the same forever. They lose, gain territories, and split up.
Open borders debate:
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TheElderScroll
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5/23/2013 12:36:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 10:52:54 AM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
I firmly believe so. There are too many cultural and political differences from region to region.

Not in the coming decades. But in next century perhaps.
Cultural and political differences always exist and they are always "too many." People are aware of the problems because:
1. They are paying more attentions.
2. Comprehensive media coverage.
tBoonePickens
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5/23/2013 2:10:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 10:52:54 AM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
I firmly believe so. There are too many cultural and political differences from region to region.
Step 1) Get rid of all the Liberals & Progressives; send them to Europe.
Step 2) Enact a National ID & close the borders.
Step 3) Remove all illegals from US territories.
Step 4) Revoke all laws/regulations that conflict with our Constitutional.
Step 5) Enjoy!
WOS
: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
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5/23/2013 2:11:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 10:52:54 AM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
I firmly believe so. There are too many cultural and political differences from region to region.

The end is near.
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Mirza
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5/23/2013 2:20:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 2:10:20 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
Step 1) Get rid of all the Liberals & Progressives; send them to Europe.
No Ma'am, we got plenty. How about you guys export some conservatives to us, eh?
drhead
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5/23/2013 2:55:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 2:10:20 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/23/2013 10:52:54 AM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
I firmly believe so. There are too many cultural and political differences from region to region.
Step 1) Get rid of all the Liberals & Progressives; send them to Europe.

This violates the First and Fifth Amendments. Hypocrite. Is the Second the only one you care about?

Step 2) Enact a National ID & close the borders.

The National ID violates the Fourth Amendment right to privacy.

Step 3) Remove all illegals from US territories.

I hope you're willing to increase your tax rates, otherwise you'll have quite a deficit to deal with

Step 4) Revoke all laws/regulations that conflict with our Constitutional.

This is the duty of the Supreme Court. If a law gets by them, it is deemed constitutional.

Step 5) Enjoy!

Yes, enjoy your hypocritical little police state.
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5/24/2013 7:18:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 2:10:20 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/23/2013 10:52:54 AM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
I firmly believe so. There are too many cultural and political differences from region to region.
Step 1) Get rid of all the Liberals & Progressives; send them to Europe.
Step 2) Enact a National ID & close the borders.
Step 3) Remove all illegals from US territories.
Step 4) Revoke all laws/regulations that conflict with our Constitutional.
Step 5) Enjoy!

Good plan. I like 5.
tBoonePickens
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5/31/2013 4:21:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 2:20:23 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 5/23/2013 2:10:20 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
Step 1) Get rid of all the Liberals & Progressives; send them to Europe.
No Ma'am, we got plenty. How about you guys export some conservatives to us, eh?
Ok, let's send them to Mars then! It's already red so it matches the colors of their ideology!

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At 5/23/2013 2:55:30 PM, drhead wrote:
At 5/23/2013 2:10:20 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
Step 1) Get rid of all the Liberals & Progressives; send them to Europe.
This violates the First and Fifth Amendments.
That is incorrect; poor assumptions on your part.

Hypocrite. Is the Second the only one you care about?
Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand, but I happen to care about all of them. Unlike you, I respect the Constitution and Bill of Rights for what they ARE and not for how YOU can interpret them to fit your beliefs.

Step 2) Enact a National ID & close the borders.
The National ID violates the Fourth Amendment right to privacy.
More liberal nonsense; that is not what the 4th Amendment says at all. Actually, there really is no "right to privacy" in the Constitution.

Step 3) Remove all illegals from US territories.
I hope you're willing to increase your tax rates, otherwise you'll have quite a deficit to deal with
Not all. We can shrink the Federal Government by about 40% to 60% (get rid of IRS, Dept. of Education, Energy, Agriculture...), implement a flat or fair consumption tax, etc.

Step 4) Revoke all laws/regulations that conflict with our Constitutional.
This is the duty of the Supreme Court. If a law gets by them, it is deemed constitutional.
That is incorrect: it is the duty of ALL branches of the Federal Government.

Step 5) Enjoy!
Yes, enjoy your hypocritical little police state.
Nice try, but that's exactly what I am trying to undo: Obama's police state!
WOS
: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
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5/31/2013 7:01:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I hope not. I think that if we had a more libertarian/ centrist president, who was charismatic, had fiscally conservative and socially progressive viewpoints, and also was cautious of foreign escapades, I think that America would prosper and generally coalesce around such a candidate.

Rand Paul might fit this picture. Chis Christie or some centrist Democrat (similar to Bill Clinton in his second term) may also fit this category.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

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drhead
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6/1/2013 6:02:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/31/2013 4:21:31 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/23/2013 2:20:23 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 5/23/2013 2:10:20 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
Step 1) Get rid of all the Liberals & Progressives; send them to Europe.
No Ma'am, we got plenty. How about you guys export some conservatives to us, eh?
Ok, let's send them to Mars then! It's already red so it matches the colors of their ideology!

Republicans also are represented by red. Should we send them there?

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At 5/23/2013 2:55:30 PM, drhead wrote:
At 5/23/2013 2:10:20 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
Step 1) Get rid of all the Liberals & Progressives; send them to Europe.
This violates the First and Fifth Amendments.
That is incorrect; poor assumptions on your part.

Deportation based on someone's beliefs = violation of first amendment.

In addition, I could also call for all people of your ideology to be deported to Singapore. But I'm not doing that. Hmm, could that be because perhaps I tend to tolerate the beliefs of others, instead of demanding that everyone who disagrees with me be moved out of the country since I am too dumb to come up with an actual argument for defending my ideology?

Hypocrite. Is the Second the only one you care about?
Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand, but I happen to care about all of them. Unlike you, I respect the Constitution and Bill of Rights for what they ARE and not for how YOU can interpret them to fit your beliefs.

Then you'd be opposed to the measures you suggested.

Step 2) Enact a National ID & close the borders.
The National ID violates the Fourth Amendment right to privacy.
More liberal nonsense; that is not what the 4th Amendment says at all. Actually, there really is no "right to privacy" in the Constitution.

Ninth Amendment.

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Step 3) Remove all illegals from US territories.
I hope you're willing to increase your tax rates, otherwise you'll have quite a deficit to deal with
Not all. We can shrink the Federal Government by about 40% to 60% (get rid of IRS, Dept. of Education, Energy, Agriculture...), implement a flat or fair consumption tax, etc.

Even if you cut all of that out, your inquisition would still cost trillions, since you're deporting half of the country based on their ideology. Hell, plane tickets alone would cost well over 100 billion.

Step 4) Revoke all laws/regulations that conflict with our Constitutional.
This is the duty of the Supreme Court. If a law gets by them, it is deemed constitutional.
That is incorrect: it is the duty of ALL branches of the Federal Government.

No, it is the Supreme Court's job to determine if laws are constitutional. That is their role in the legislative process. Of course others can raise objections, but if it passes the Court, it is constitutional.

Step 5) Enjoy!
Yes, enjoy your hypocritical little police state.
Nice try, but that's exactly what I am trying to undo: Obama's police state!

By replacing it with a conservative police state? That sounds so much better.
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