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What political issue are you hardline about?

Rhett_Butler
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6/16/2013 1:20:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
The question, in full, is "what political issue are you the most dedicated to?" Because of spacing constraints, I had to keep it short and sweet. That said, I'm curious as to what everyone feels the most strongly about, and would love to see the reasons behind the beliefs.

I intend for this to be a really open discussion, and hope for the thread to go pretty well so that we can all better understand one another's views.
drhead
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6/16/2013 2:04:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
If I had to pick one, it'd have to be gay marriage - I've never seen someone actually raise any objections to it that actually make sense or that I can't refute without any effort at all. I'll support same-sex marriage for as long as I live.
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6/16/2013 5:28:18 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Anti-monopoly: Markets cannot function without good competition and government can't plan on their own.

Freedom of Information: While I'm not a huge supporter of democracy, it's unlikely we'll be using anything else any time soon. There is no way it can function without an informed electorate. I don't mean everything should be out in the open, but all secrecy rulings should have a sunset clause.
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6/16/2013 6:14:47 AM
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Freedom of speech. No opinion should be stifled.
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6/16/2013 8:10:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Anti-war,
Firm believer Smedley Butler was right when he said "War is a racket, It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives..."
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6/16/2013 9:06:21 AM
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Govt manipulation of the free market (Picking winners and losers through subsidies)
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

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6/16/2013 9:52:33 AM
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Freedom of opinion and expression.

All people, above (almost) all else, have the right to hold any opinion and express any opinion through any medium and in any way that they choose.
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6/16/2013 1:09:21 PM
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Not a single political issue. I just don't like liberalism - not in American liberalism, but classical liberalism. I think it's naive and is tacitly nihilistic.
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6/16/2013 1:48:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Economic policy (mostly taxation), and basic civil liberties (like I'm furiously against the NDAA).
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

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6/16/2013 3:17:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 1:20:42 AM, Rhett_Butler wrote:
The question, in full, is "what political issue are you the most dedicated to?" Because of spacing constraints, I had to keep it short and sweet. That said, I'm curious as to what everyone feels the most strongly about, and would love to see the reasons behind the beliefs.

I intend for this to be a really open discussion, and hope for the thread to go pretty well so that we can all better understand one another's views.

Foreign policy, and to that end I am decidedly of the GWB school of thought.
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6/16/2013 3:32:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 3:17:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/16/2013 1:20:42 AM, Rhett_Butler wrote:
The question, in full, is "what political issue are you the most dedicated to?" Because of spacing constraints, I had to keep it short and sweet. That said, I'm curious as to what everyone feels the most strongly about, and would love to see the reasons behind the beliefs.

I intend for this to be a really open discussion, and hope for the thread to go pretty well so that we can all better understand one another's views.

Foreign policy, and to that end I am decidedly of the GWB school of thought.

Do tell.
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6/16/2013 3:46:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 3:32:33 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/16/2013 3:17:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/16/2013 1:20:42 AM, Rhett_Butler wrote:
The question, in full, is "what political issue are you the most dedicated to?" Because of spacing constraints, I had to keep it short and sweet. That said, I'm curious as to what everyone feels the most strongly about, and would love to see the reasons behind the beliefs.

I intend for this to be a really open discussion, and hope for the thread to go pretty well so that we can all better understand one another's views.

Foreign policy, and to that end I am decidedly of the GWB school of thought.

Do tell.

Explain why I am of the GWB (Bush 43) school of thought?
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6/16/2013 4:20:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 5:28:18 AM, the_croftmeister wrote:
Anti-monopoly: Markets cannot function without good competition and government can't plan on their own.

^^^^

Not a political issue. That is an economic issue.

(n) politics, political relation (social relations involving intrigue to gain authority or power) "office politics is often counterproductive"
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...
(adj) political (of or relating to your views about social relationships involving authority or power) "political opinions"
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...

It comes from the greek word "Polis" meaning "city", which comes from the PIE word "*pelH" meaning "stronghold".

Sociopolitical Issues deal with Collectivism vs Individualism. Collectivists and Individualists can be further divided into Left and Right categories, by adding a Sociocultural axis. The Left being reformists, and the Right being traditionalists.
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6/16/2013 4:26:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 4:20:29 PM, DanT wrote:
At 6/16/2013 5:28:18 AM, the_croftmeister wrote:
Anti-monopoly: Markets cannot function without good competition and government can't plan on their own.

^^^^

Not a political issue. That is an economic issue.

(n) politics, political relation (social relations involving intrigue to gain authority or power) "office politics is often counterproductive"
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...
(adj) political (of or relating to your views about social relationships involving authority or power) "political opinions"
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...

It comes from the greek word "Polis" meaning "city", which comes from the PIE word "*pelH" meaning "stronghold".

Sociopolitical Issues deal with Collectivism vs Individualism. Collectivists and Individualists can be further divided into Left and Right categories, by adding a Sociocultural axis. The Left being reformists, and the Right being traditionalists.

*b'tch got DanT'd*
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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6/16/2013 5:57:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 3:46:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/16/2013 3:32:33 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/16/2013 3:17:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/16/2013 1:20:42 AM, Rhett_Butler wrote:
The question, in full, is "what political issue are you the most dedicated to?" Because of spacing constraints, I had to keep it short and sweet. That said, I'm curious as to what everyone feels the most strongly about, and would love to see the reasons behind the beliefs.

I intend for this to be a really open discussion, and hope for the thread to go pretty well so that we can all better understand one another's views.

Foreign policy, and to that end I am decidedly of the GWB school of thought.

Do tell.

Explain why I am of the GWB (Bush 43) school of thought?

Please.
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6/16/2013 5:58:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 10:26:44 AM, Yin wrote:
Equality before the law.

At 6/16/2013 2:04:11 AM, drhead wrote:
I'll support same-sex marriage for as long as I live.

I take a firm stance against such positions like these, I detest them. I reject the idea that equality and gay marriage take precedence over Liberty.

Equality is coercion and destruction of the individual and gay marriage is the entitlement state.

"You can only aim at equality by giving some people the right to take things from others. What ultimately happens when you aim for equality is that A and B decide what C shall do for D; except that they take a little bit of a commission off on the way."
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6/16/2013 7:20:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 5:58:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/16/2013 10:26:44 AM, Yin wrote:
Equality before the law.

At 6/16/2013 2:04:11 AM, drhead wrote:
I'll support same-sex marriage for as long as I live.

I take a firm stance against such positions like these, I detest them. I reject the idea that equality and gay marriage take precedence over Liberty.

Equality is coercion and destruction of the individual and gay marriage is the entitlement state.

"You can only aim at equality by giving some people the right to take things from others. What ultimately happens when you aim for equality is that A and B decide what C shall do for D; except that they take a little bit of a commission off on the way."
-- Milton Friedman

How the hell is equal treatment under the law the destruction of the individual? I honestly expected you to take on the post against classical liberalism, since that's what your ideology is. But equal treatment under the law? Seriously? Do you just have an aversion to the word equality, since you seem to immediately associate it with socialism/communism?
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6/16/2013 7:22:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 7:20:23 PM, drhead wrote:
At 6/16/2013 5:58:14 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/16/2013 10:26:44 AM, Yin wrote:
Equality before the law.

At 6/16/2013 2:04:11 AM, drhead wrote:
I'll support same-sex marriage for as long as I live.

I take a firm stance against such positions like these, I detest them. I reject the idea that equality and gay marriage take precedence over Liberty.

Equality is coercion and destruction of the individual and gay marriage is the entitlement state.

"You can only aim at equality by giving some people the right to take things from others. What ultimately happens when you aim for equality is that A and B decide what C shall do for D; except that they take a little bit of a commission off on the way."
-- Milton Friedman

How the hell is equal treatment under the law the destruction of the individual? I honestly expected you to take on the post against classical liberalism, since that's what your ideology is. But equal treatment under the law? Seriously? Do you just have an aversion to the word equality, since you seem to immediately associate it with socialism/communism?

Ya, gay marriage is the entitlement state? What the hell are you talking about?
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6/16/2013 8:01:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 5:57:44 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/16/2013 3:46:02 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/16/2013 3:32:33 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 6/16/2013 3:17:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/16/2013 1:20:42 AM, Rhett_Butler wrote:
The question, in full, is "what political issue are you the most dedicated to?" Because of spacing constraints, I had to keep it short and sweet. That said, I'm curious as to what everyone feels the most strongly about, and would love to see the reasons behind the beliefs.

I intend for this to be a really open discussion, and hope for the thread to go pretty well so that we can all better understand one another's views.

Foreign policy, and to that end I am decidedly of the GWB school of thought.

Do tell.

Explain why I am of the GWB (Bush 43) school of thought?

Please.

I'll try to be brief:

The Pragmatic Reason: (1) It is in the economic and political interest of the United States that nations become more democratic. Nation building is complicated, but it is possible. This is a central goal in intervention, but only the first of three.
The Idealist/Liberal Reason: (2) Hostile leaders of non-democratic nations must know that wherever they abuse the rights of their people, they will be held accountable by the United States. In that way, human rights are enforced by those who are able (the US). This is the long-term end goal, and must be understood as such. While intervention may result in further violations of human rights, the eventual end of establishing legitimate government based on the consent of the governed is worth the price necessary to that end.
The Realist Reason: (3) Hostile leaders of non-democratic nations must not think that they can conspire against or aid those who conspire against the United States, its interests (like protecting all people's human rights) or its allies without paying an overwhelming consequence (like a foreign imposed regime change) for doing so.

I also want to say that I'm only philosophically aligned with GWB. I don't think he went far enough in Iraq or Afghanistan. I think he should have intervened in the various ethnic conflicts presently transpiring in Africa, through NATO or the UN, etc.
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6/16/2013 8:48:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/16/2013 3:08:58 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Economics.
The idiocy in economics in government is infuriating.

Aren't you a republican...
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6/16/2013 8:49:54 PM
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At 6/16/2013 3:17:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/16/2013 1:20:42 AM, Rhett_Butler wrote:
The question, in full, is "what political issue are you the most dedicated to?" Because of spacing constraints, I had to keep it short and sweet. That said, I'm curious as to what everyone feels the most strongly about, and would love to see the reasons behind the beliefs.

I intend for this to be a really open discussion, and hope for the thread to go pretty well so that we can all better understand one another's views.

Foreign policy, and to that end I am decidedly of the GWB school of thought.

Noninterventionism?
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