Total Posts:127|Showing Posts:1-30|Last Page
Jump to topic:

Where would you want to live?

Freedomaniac
Posts: 365
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:05:29 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Out of the entire world, where would you pick to live, based on politics.
I am a moosepotomus, here me quack! *Grr, ruff, moo*

I am my own God and the free market is my Jesus.

http://freedomaniac.wordpress.com...
johngriswald
Posts: 1,294
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:12:50 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Isle of Man
Having problems with the fans site? Suggestions? Can't log in? Forgot your password? Want to be an editor and write opinion pieces? PM Me and I'll get it sorted out.

ddofans.com
Ragnar_Rahl
Posts: 19,297
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:21:44 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Anywhere as long as I or some other libertarian extremist am in charge.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
Reasoning
Posts: 4,456
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:23:06 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Based on politics only? Somalia.[1]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
mongoose
Posts: 3,500
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:24:55 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Texas!
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
GeoLaureate8
Posts: 12,252
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:25:30 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Another star system preferably. Sorry Gaia.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
Xer
Posts: 7,776
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:31:55 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 8:23:06 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Based on politics only? Somalia.

Human rights in Somalia? Screw that shiz.
http://www.guardian.co.uk...

Risk of coup? High. --- Risk of conflicts? Civil War.
http://www.mherrera.org...

Political Freedom on scale of 1-7 with 7 being the worst? 7. --- Civil Rights? 7. --- Status: Not Free.
http://www.mherrera.org...

Nice pick.
GeoLaureate8
Posts: 12,252
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:44:25 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
If you guys knew anything about exopolitics, you wouldn't even mention a terran country.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
Freedomaniac
Posts: 365
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:47:39 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 8:31:55 PM, Nags wrote:
At 12/4/2009 8:23:06 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Based on politics only? Somalia.

Human rights in Somalia? Screw that shiz.
http://www.guardian.co.uk...

Risk of coup? High. --- Risk of conflicts? Civil War.
http://www.mherrera.org...

Political Freedom on scale of 1-7 with 7 being the worst? 7. --- Civil Rights? 7. --- Status: Not Free.
http://www.mherrera.org...

Nice pick.

I agree with nags on this one, Somalia sucks.
I am a moosepotomus, here me quack! *Grr, ruff, moo*

I am my own God and the free market is my Jesus.

http://freedomaniac.wordpress.com...
Volkov
Posts: 9,765
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:49:41 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 8:44:25 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If you guys knew anything about exopolitics, you wouldn't even mention a terran country.

Lol.
studentathletechristian8
Posts: 5,810
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:50:40 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 8:26:00 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
Based on politics?

My top three would definitely be China, North Korea, and Japan.

*Just a joke btw.*
Xer
Posts: 7,776
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 8:53:25 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 8:44:25 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If you guys knew anything about exopolitics, you wouldn't even mention a terran country.

Not this again...
GeoLaureate8
Posts: 12,252
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 9:17:07 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 8:53:25 PM, Nags wrote:
At 12/4/2009 8:44:25 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If you guys knew anything about exopolitics, you wouldn't even mention a terran country.

Not this again...

Actually, it's a serious matter. I remember when I first learned about the sociological and governmental structures of other-wordly civilizations, I was blown away at these new ideas and concepts most have never heard of.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
Ragnar_Rahl
Posts: 19,297
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 9:18:25 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
When you can point out the nearest shuttle to the great libertarian utopia in the sky, er space, I'll be climbing right aboard.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
Xer
Posts: 7,776
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 9:20:07 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 9:17:07 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Actually, it's a serious matter. I remember when I first learned about the sociological and governmental structures of other-wordly civilizations, I was blown away at these new ideas and concepts most have never heard of.

I remember when I first learned about Santa Claus, I was blown away that a bunch of elves in the North Pole can make presents for all the children in the world and that Santa could deliver them in one night with his flying reindeer. But then I grew up. =]
GeoLaureate8
Posts: 12,252
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 9:31:37 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 9:20:07 PM, Nags wrote:
At 12/4/2009 9:17:07 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Actually, it's a serious matter. I remember when I first learned about the sociological and governmental structures of other-wordly civilizations, I was blown away at these new ideas and concepts most have never heard of.

I remember when I first learned about Santa Claus, I was blown away that a bunch of elves in the North Pole can make presents for all the children in the world and that Santa could deliver them in one night with his flying reindeer.

That is not a revolutionary new idea or concept. Whether these civilizations are hypothetical or real, is besides the point in this case.

But then I grew up. =]

Apparently not. You still believe in invisible pink unicorns. :)
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
Xer
Posts: 7,776
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 9:34:26 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 9:31:37 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
That is not a revolutionary new idea or concept. Whether these civilizations are hypothetical or real, is besides the point in this case.

Because you're fantasy is new, it is somehow different? Appeal to novelty?

Apparently not. You still believe in invisible pink unicorns. :)

Ya got me there. :P
GeoLaureate8
Posts: 12,252
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 9:36:24 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 9:34:26 PM, Nags wrote:
At 12/4/2009 9:31:37 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
That is not a revolutionary new idea or concept. Whether these civilizations are hypothetical or real, is besides the point in this case.

Because you're fantasy is new, it is somehow different? Appeal to novelty?

No, not at all. If they were retarded, useless new ideas, they wouldn't even be considered.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
Xer
Posts: 7,776
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 9:39:11 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 9:36:24 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
No, not at all. If they were retarded, useless new ideas, they wouldn't even be considered.

Lol. Exopolitics would fall under a retarted, useless new idea. You saw that coming though, didn't you? :)
GeoLaureate8
Posts: 12,252
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/4/2009 9:47:27 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 9:39:11 PM, Nags wrote:
At 12/4/2009 9:36:24 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
No, not at all. If they were retarded, useless new ideas, they wouldn't even be considered.

Lol. Exopolitics would fall under a retarted, useless new idea. You saw that coming though, didn't you? :)

Sure, but you can't judge something you don't know about.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
Reasoning
Posts: 4,456
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/5/2009 7:50:48 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/4/2009 8:31:55 PM, Nags wrote:
At 12/4/2009 8:23:06 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Based on politics only? Somalia.

Human rights in Somalia? Screw that shiz.
http://www.guardian.co.uk...

The only human right is that to property. Which seems to be taken in pretty high regard around there:

"Law and, consequently crime, are defined in terms of property rights. The law is compensatory rather than punitive. Because property rights requires compensation, rather than punishment, there is no imprisonment, and fines are rare. Such fines as might be imposed seldom exceed the amount of compensation and are not payable to any court or government, but directly to the victim." - Wikipedia[1]

Risk of coup? High. --- Risk of conflicts? Civil War.
http://www.mherrera.org...

States are constantly being foisted upon the people of Somalia, but recently none have worked out. I see little reason for this to change in the near future, as many Somalis are extremely skeptical of central authority.

Political Freedom on scale of 1-7 with 7 being the worst? 7. --- Civil Rights? 7. --- Status: Not Free.
http://www.mherrera.org...

As there is no state, I find it hard to believe that it is totalitarian.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...
"What we really ought to ask the liberal, before we even begin addressing his agenda, is this: In what kind of society would he be a conservative?" - Joseph Sobran
Xer
Posts: 7,776
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
12/5/2009 7:55:24 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/5/2009 7:50:48 AM, Reasoning wrote:
The only human right is that to property. Which seems to be taken in pretty high regard around there:

"Law and, consequently crime, are defined in terms of property rights. The law is compensatory rather than punitive. Because property rights requires compensation, rather than punishment, there is no imprisonment, and fines are rare. Such fines as might be imposed seldom exceed the amount of compensation and are not payable to any court or government, but directly to the victim." - Wikipedia[1]

Uhh, are you sane? If the only recognized human right in Somalia is that of property, then there is some serious problems. Once you get kidnapped, raped, murdered, and get everything else taken away - tell me how much you value your property. Err, I doubt anyone recognizes your property rights anyway.

States are constantly being foisted upon the people of Somalia, but recently none have worked out. I see little reason for this to change in the near future, as many Somalis are extremely skeptical of central authority.

Ok. What's your point? There is constantly war and violence, what does that say to you?

As there is no state, I find it hard to believe that it is totalitarian.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...

They live under the authority of warlords, druglords, regional gangs, and pirates - what's so hard to believe?