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7/2/2013 9:10:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
This is so outrageous I can't even.

The police shot a dog for protecting his owner who was being arrested because he was videotaping the cops.

This man was video shooting the police that was in somewhere in California, shouted something resembling 'Why y no have black policeman', or something like that. The man was freaking arrested (Why would that even be a crime?). The dog went all for protecting his owner, and the police freaking SHOT the dog.

It doesn't even matter if he was pompous or obnoxious or anything. They KILLED someone. It is looking more and more authoritarian by the minute.
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7/2/2013 9:16:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
If they weren't armed, they wouldn't have felt the leverage to initiate such a pointless confrontation in the first place. It's basically the idea that when things go south you can just kill to get out of it. I suggest we put in massive funding to produce a non-lethal gun or a long-range stun gun and completely strip law-enforcement of access to deadly force. Words cannot express how outraged and disgusted I was by that video.
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7/2/2013 9:23:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
That was horrifying.

And not only do they shoot the poor thing, but then they don't even have the humanity to kill it immediately.
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7/2/2013 9:35:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
A horrible seen. However, this is really trivial in comparison to the greatest extent of police brutality/incompetence in the US.
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7/2/2013 9:42:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/2/2013 9:35:54 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
A horrible seen. However, this is really trivial in comparison to the greatest extent of police brutality/incompetence in the US.

Example?
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7/2/2013 9:50:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/2/2013 9:16:40 PM, 000ike wrote:
If they weren't armed, they wouldn't have felt the leverage to initiate such a pointless confrontation in the first place. It's basically the idea that when things go south you can just kill to get out of it. I suggest we put in massive funding to produce a non-lethal gun or a long-range stun gun and completely strip law-enforcement of access to deadly force. Words cannot express how outraged and disgusted I was by that video.

I'd be all for giving police rubber bullets. It's an existing technology. Long-range electromuscular weapons exist (Taser XREP), but the Taser XREP is a shotgun shell.
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7/3/2013 12:30:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I can't bring myself to watch it.
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7/3/2013 12:36:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
And people seem outraged at my idea of "taking down" government employees.
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7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."
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7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.
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7/3/2013 12:42:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Most cops I come into contact with are ignorant fuckwits (to put it mildly). That being said I don't dig generalizations dude.
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: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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7/3/2013 12:44:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.

I think the term "You're only as fast as your slowest player" applies here.

Anyways, the police don't do anything useful that civilians couldn't do. Arrest somebody for murdering somebody? Hell, I could do that.

My problem with them is that they are essentially State sanctioned violence based on arbitrary laws that old men who are either dead or dying have come up with.
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7/3/2013 12:44:54 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

You realize not every cop out there would have shot the dog in that situation, right?
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7/3/2013 12:46:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:42:52 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Most cops I come into contact with are ignorant fuckwits (to put it mildly). That being said I don't dig generalizations dude.

It's not necessarily a generalization. Are they "psychopathic?" Probably not in the clinical sense of the term, but they are definitely a hell lot more inclined to violence than regular people. Are they "idiots?" Considering that virtually all of them don't have any sort of formal education, yes.
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7/3/2013 12:47:04 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:44:54 AM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

You realize not every cop out there would have shot the dog in that situation, right?

You realize that not every Nazi would be willing to kill Jews in cold-blood, right?
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7/3/2013 12:53:20 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:44:44 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.

I think the term "You're only as fast as your slowest player" applies here.

Anyways, the police don't do anything useful that civilians couldn't do. Arrest somebody for murdering somebody? Hell, I could do that.

My problem with them is that they are essentially State sanctioned violence based on arbitrary laws that old men who are either dead or dying have come up with.

Moody rebellious teen is moody.
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7/3/2013 12:53:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:53:20 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:44:44 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.

I think the term "You're only as fast as your slowest player" applies here.

Anyways, the police don't do anything useful that civilians couldn't do. Arrest somebody for murdering somebody? Hell, I could do that.

My problem with them is that they are essentially State sanctioned violence based on arbitrary laws that old men who are either dead or dying have come up with.

Moody rebellious teen is moody.

That's cute.
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7/3/2013 12:59:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/2/2013 9:16:40 PM, 000ike wrote:
If they weren't armed, they wouldn't have felt the leverage to initiate such a pointless confrontation in the first place. It's basically the idea that when things go south you can just kill to get out of it. I suggest we put in massive funding to produce a non-lethal gun or a long-range stun gun and completely strip law-enforcement of access to deadly force. Words cannot express how outraged and disgusted I was by that video.

Stun guns have a long history of abuse too.

Man having diabetic seizure tasered 11 times:
http://www.courthousenews.com...

Officers tase a 14 yearold boy, sending him into cardiac arrest: http://www.cbsnews.com...

10-year-old child tasered at day care:
http://www.theindychannel.com...

There are PLENTY more examples I can give you.

Labeling something "non-lethal" makes it much easier for cops to escalate to the use of force.
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7/3/2013 12:59:46 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:53:45 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:53:20 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:44:44 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.

I think the term "You're only as fast as your slowest player" applies here.

Anyways, the police don't do anything useful that civilians couldn't do. Arrest somebody for murdering somebody? Hell, I could do that.

My problem with them is that they are essentially State sanctioned violence based on arbitrary laws that old men who are either dead or dying have come up with.

Moody rebellious teen is moody.

That's cute.

Cute? No. Amusing? Perhaps.
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7/3/2013 1:05:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:59:46 AM, YYW wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:53:45 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:53:20 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:44:44 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.

I think the term "You're only as fast as your slowest player" applies here.

Anyways, the police don't do anything useful that civilians couldn't do. Arrest somebody for murdering somebody? Hell, I could do that.

My problem with them is that they are essentially State sanctioned violence based on arbitrary laws that old men who are either dead or dying have come up with.

Moody rebellious teen is moody.

That's cute.

Cute? No. Amusing? Perhaps.

That was sarcasm. lol
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7/3/2013 1:10:30 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:47:04 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:44:54 AM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

You realize not every cop out there would have shot the dog in that situation, right?

You realize that not every Nazi would be willing to kill Jews in cold-blood, right?

Argumentum ad Hitlerum -- the universal rebuttal to all arguments...
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7/3/2013 1:11:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I saw this yesterday. Pretty disgusting. Poor doggy
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7/3/2013 1:13:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 1:10:30 AM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:47:04 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:44:54 AM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

You realize not every cop out there would have shot the dog in that situation, right?

You realize that not every Nazi would be willing to kill Jews in cold-blood, right?

Argumentum ad Hitlerum -- the universal rebuttal to all arguments...

It was meant as a comparison. If not every Nazi would kill a Jew, should we excuse their actions as a whole? If not every policeman would kill a dog, should we excuse their actions as a whole?
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7/3/2013 1:14:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 12:53:20 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:44:44 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.

I think the term "You're only as fast as your slowest player" applies here.

Anyways, the police don't do anything useful that civilians couldn't do. Arrest somebody for murdering somebody? Hell, I could do that.

My problem with them is that they are essentially State sanctioned violence based on arbitrary laws that old men who are either dead or dying have come up with.

Moody rebellious teen is moody.

Also, that means very little coming from the 16 year old minarchist bordering on anarchist.
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7/3/2013 1:15:04 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 1:05:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:59:46 AM, YYW wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:53:45 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:53:20 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:44:44 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.

I think the term "You're only as fast as your slowest player" applies here.

Anyways, the police don't do anything useful that civilians couldn't do. Arrest somebody for murdering somebody? Hell, I could do that.

My problem with them is that they are essentially State sanctioned violence based on arbitrary laws that old men who are either dead or dying have come up with.

Moody rebellious teen is moody.

That's cute.

Cute? No. Amusing? Perhaps.

That was sarcasm. lol

Yes, but sarcasm that begged to be corrected ;)
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7/3/2013 1:19:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 1:14:19 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:53:20 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:44:44 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:41:52 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 7/3/2013 12:37:50 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
I don't really see why police are hailed as some sort of "heroes." They are psychopathic idiots who failed any sort of formal education, resorting instead to brutality.

In cliche, "fuck the police."

Youtube videos showing the worst among them is not representative. Police officers are underrated.

I think the term "You're only as fast as your slowest player" applies here.

Anyways, the police don't do anything useful that civilians couldn't do. Arrest somebody for murdering somebody? Hell, I could do that.

My problem with them is that they are essentially State sanctioned violence based on arbitrary laws that old men who are either dead or dying have come up with.

Moody rebellious teen is moody.

Also, that means very little coming from the 16 year old minarchist bordering on anarchist.

17 year old, and I'm an Objectivist. GOSH. NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME.
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7/3/2013 1:36:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 1:27:04 AM, YYW wrote:
LOL @ people posting on this thread

Indeed.

@1percenter, Nazi references aren't necessarily fallacious if the comparison is apt. Argue the merits of the comparison, not the validity of such a comparison a priori.
@dylancat, just drop Rand and move on to the Ancap phase already. The foreplay has ceased to amuse me.
@Lordknukle, lack of formal education doesn't make someone an idiot. Furthermore, I've had run-ins with the police and yes most of them were despicable people. But just as well I've known good people who happened to be cops. Whatever institutional problems are inherent to the State, they certainly aren't enough to necessitate (or even lead to to whatever degree yer implying) antisocial behavior in the sense that yer arguing.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.