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EU is the new communism?

Cermank
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8/6/2013 10:50:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I wish I was a European, their parliament is so much more interesting.

European Union should cease to exist, period. All these contradictions arise from the existence of EU. Even though I agree with Farage on Cyprus case in principal, I still believe it was the only sensible thing to do given the circumstances.

The circumstances shouldn't exist.
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8/6/2013 10:54:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
"Who the hell do you think you people ARE? ...
Untold people must suffer so that your Euro dream should continue...
It's even more dangerous because when you rob people of their identity, their democracy, all they are left with is nationalism and violence..."

This is one gutsy man.
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8/6/2013 3:13:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Fascinating. Not exactly breaking news but interesting nonetheless.

Realist translation of the videos:

1) The US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand (all native English speaking nations) have a tight alliance seeking to extend several hundred years of the Queen's rule, now under Mr. President's stewardship.

2) This empire has difficulty in assimilating developing nations let alone the Euro zone. Notice that America and Britain are distancing themselves from the EU.

3) The continual fragmentation of continental Europe (to say nothing of regions like the Middle East, the former USSR (example: Georgia), India/Pakistan, and SE Asia) plays into the hands of English power-brokers.
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If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?
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8/6/2013 3:16:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The problem is people are treating the EU as a new form of government. Which it shouldn't be, by anyone, in either rights or responsibilities.
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8/6/2013 3:44:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The EU treats the EU like a new form of Government.
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8/7/2013 9:07:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/6/2013 3:13:21 PM, wrichcirw wrote:
Fascinating. Not exactly breaking news but interesting nonetheless.

Realist translation of the videos:

1) The US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand (all native English speaking nations) have a tight alliance seeking to extend several hundred years of the Queen's rule, now under Mr. President's stewardship.

2) This empire has difficulty in assimilating developing nations let alone the Euro zone. Notice that America and Britain are distancing themselves from the EU.

3) The continual fragmentation of continental Europe (to say nothing of regions like the Middle East, the former USSR (example: Georgia), India/Pakistan, and SE Asia) plays into the hands of English power-brokers.

Do you mean that the failure of Euro is because of some conspiracy by the English countries? Or that the failure would benefit the English countries?
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8/7/2013 9:28:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/7/2013 9:07:25 AM, Cermank wrote:
At 8/6/2013 3:13:21 PM, wrichcirw wrote:
Fascinating. Not exactly breaking news but interesting nonetheless.

Realist translation of the videos:

1) The US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand (all native English speaking nations) have a tight alliance seeking to extend several hundred years of the Queen's rule, now under Mr. President's stewardship.

2) This empire has difficulty in assimilating developing nations let alone the Euro zone. Notice that America and Britain are distancing themselves from the EU.

3) The continual fragmentation of continental Europe (to say nothing of regions like the Middle East, the former USSR (example: Georgia), India/Pakistan, and SE Asia) plays into the hands of English power-brokers.

Do you mean that the failure of Euro is because of some conspiracy by the English countries? Or that the failure would benefit the English countries?

Both, although I think conspiracy is too strong a word. "Political advantage" would be more appropriate. Preferential treatment on intelligence sharing and an overall informal alliance is real, not conspiracy. http://en.wikipedia.org...
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
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8/7/2013 11:01:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I do think Europe should come together for extensive cooperation. Things like European phone networks and their costs, easy travel, and maybe other things. I think Britain is very anti-Europe though.
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8/7/2013 12:07:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I probably have no idea of the economics of the situation to be honest, but it seems to me the Euro would just be to centralize power in the finish up, no? Like, I realize the switch over would generate a whole lot of uncertainty which would damage the Euro's credibility against other currencies, but is it not to balance out in the end anyway? I mean, if Europe is rather sustainable within itself, the net damage will surely amount to the same, no? and then to offer greater security to the poorer nations of Europe as time progresses? And sure that's essentially communism, but that dude seems only concerned with the individual GDP of wealthy countries and not then benefits to European countries on a large scale. I'm not so sure I'm against it to be honest. I mean, us Irish are a rather educated nation and it's kind of in our heritage to travel the world, laughing and sleeping in cement mixers as Tommy Tiernan so eloquently put it. Seems only fair to give the poor a chance, no? Let alone that those Germans are trying to take over the world again.
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8/7/2013 12:08:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Britain is very pro-Europe, remember they are still European. To hate Europe is to hate themselves.

They are very Anti-EU, much for the same reason that the US likes ignoring the UN. Identity, and self-governing. They don't want diplomats from Germany and France telling them what to do. It likely has to do with being self-identified because they aren't actually apart of the European Mainland.

Not to say they are again an EU, they simply don't like this EU.
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