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Rand Paul on the manning verdict

imabench
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8/21/2013 4:33:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
http://dlmagazine.org...

Apparently hes fine with the sentence and doesnt denounce it, which really, really surprises me
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8/21/2013 4:53:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/21/2013 4:33:46 PM, imabench wrote:
http://dlmagazine.org...

Apparently hes fine with the sentence and doesnt denounce it, which really, really surprises me

Why does that surprise you?
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8/21/2013 8:41:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm curious to what state secrets Manning gave away? Besides exposing the horrors of war to society, what technology or state tactics/strategy did he give away.
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8/21/2013 8:43:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/21/2013 8:41:00 PM, darkkermit wrote:
I'm curious to what state secrets Manning gave away? Besides exposing the horrors of war to society, what technology or state tactics/strategy did he give away.

I'll just be curious to see if he is granted parole when he is eligible.
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8/21/2013 11:10:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Not sure if it was mentioned but Manning got 35 years.

I agree I don't know why Paul came out against manning, spewing the same BS we get from the rest of the politicians, mainly that it endangered Americans. I still haven't seen anywhere what exactly got released that put Americans in danger, was there a list of agents names or schematics for a stealth helicopter or something?
Paul even went so far as to say "I think if you"ve got the, you know, the plans on how to make a nuclear bomb that is a state secret"
What kind of hyperbole BS is that, like Manning told the enemy how to make nuclear bombs hah.
Also the fact that the technology behind making a bomb is fairly 'simple' and straight forward, it's the obtaining enriched Uranium which gives countries problems.
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8/22/2013 9:26:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Also apparently it's Chelsea Manning now, not Bradley
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8/22/2013 10:21:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I think Rand Paul is trying to play nice with the establishment so he will actually have a chance unlike his father
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8/23/2013 9:55:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/21/2013 4:33:46 PM, imabench wrote:
http://dlmagazine.org...

Apparently hes fine with the sentence and doesnt denounce it, which really, really surprises me

It is hard to find a politician who believes that honesty, truth, & candor can be valid tools in foreign and domestic policy.

Take for example the entire issue with America using drones to bomb suspected terrorist leaders in Yemen, all the time while Yemen was proclaiming the blasts were from their military.

Number 1, the people of Yemen were not that stupid and knew their country did not have the ability to drop bombs from seemingly nothing in the sky with that type of precision. Secondly, after Manning released the cables that clearly implicated all it did was prove to the world that Yemen and the US are liars.

There was absolutely no value in lying about US drones operating in Yemen. Back to my original statement. It is rare to find a politician who would support Manning. The fundamental reason is that the more they can tie up as classified material, the less accountability they have against them. It is clearly a desire to have cover from accountability as 80% of what we classify as secret clearly does not need to be nor should it be.