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Jsimbana
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8/25/2013 8:40:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
More recently I've been hearing the following quote by Winston Churchill "Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains."

Does this mean its wrong to be young and a conservative? Or can it simply be we have come to our senses before many others? Besides I like to think I have a heart..
lewis20
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8/25/2013 9:02:18 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
It doesn't mean anything, it's a generalizing observation and not a sort of rule or anything.
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8/25/2013 9:06:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
It's just a meaningless generalization, I wouldn't worry about it.

Besides, I'm not sure where I learned this, but I think Churchill's most famous quotes were uttered while he was drunk.
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8/25/2013 9:07:16 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 9:02:18 AM, lewis20 wrote:
It doesn't mean anything, it's a generalizing observation and not a sort of rule or anything.

Yeah I'd have to agree with this.

And a compassionate case can be made for a more libertarian, fiscally responsible government.
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8/25/2013 9:11:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 9:06:13 AM, 000ike wrote:
It's just a meaningless generalization, I wouldn't worry about it.

Besides, I'm not sure where I learned this, but I think Churchill's most famous quotes were uttered while he was drunk.

To be fair drunken conversation makes for some of the most profound realizations.
"If you are a racist I will attack you with the north"- Abraham Lincoln

"Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material" - Leviticus 19 19

"War is a racket" - Smedley Butler
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8/25/2013 4:36:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 9:06:13 AM, 000ike wrote:
It's just a meaningless generalization, I wouldn't worry about it.

Besides, I'm not sure where I learned this, but I think Churchill's most famous quotes were uttered while he was drunk.

Curchill was just always drunk. He would drink a glass of sherry before breakfast, drink scotch at lunch, and just keep on keeping on. People commented that the sobriety with which he acted was almost as impressive as the quantity he consumed.

To OP: All young conservatives are dysfunctional and should promptly check-in to a reprogramming centre under the new Obamacare provisions.
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8/25/2013 5:27:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm a young conservative. I have a heart. For the people who can't help themselves. For my people. But most people can help themselves and choose not too. And many people aren't my people, so I could really care less.
Look at it this way, what I lack in heart, is made up for by my brains. I have a big brain. Besides, my brain will help people, my heart will not.
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8/25/2013 6:10:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 5:27:46 PM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
I'm a young conservative. I have a heart. For the people who can't help themselves. For my people. But most people can help themselves and choose not too. And many people aren't my people, so I could really care less.
Look at it this way, what I lack in heart, is made up for by my brains. I have a big brain. Besides, my brain will help people, my heart will not.

Haha tell us more about your big brain you big boy.
Also I'd be curious to know who your people were, the Aryan race?
"If you are a racist I will attack you with the north"- Abraham Lincoln

"Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material" - Leviticus 19 19

"War is a racket" - Smedley Butler
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8/25/2013 6:51:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 6:10:45 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/25/2013 5:27:46 PM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
I'm a young conservative. I have a heart. For the people who can't help themselves. For my people. But most people can help themselves and choose not too. And many people aren't my people, so I could really care less.
Look at it this way, what I lack in heart, is made up for by my brains. I have a big brain. Besides, my brain will help people, my heart will not.

Haha tell us more about your big brain you big boy.
Also I'd be curious to know who your people were, the Aryan race?

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8/25/2013 7:15:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 4:36:29 PM, Raisor wrote:
At 8/25/2013 9:06:13 AM, 000ike wrote:
It's just a meaningless generalization, I wouldn't worry about it.

Besides, I'm not sure where I learned this, but I think Churchill's most famous quotes were uttered while he was drunk.

Curchill was just always drunk. He would drink a glass of sherry before breakfast, drink scotch at lunch, and just keep on keeping on. People commented that the sobriety with which he acted was almost as impressive as the quantity he consumed.

To OP: All young conservatives are dysfunctional and should promptly check-in to a reprogramming centre under the new Obamacare provisions.

Please change your political stance, you are not a moderate. I can't respect people who put on their profile that they are moderate or apathetic when they clearly show a bias. Claiming to be a moderate to gain credibility is pretty low bud.
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8/25/2013 7:43:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 7:15:57 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
At 8/25/2013 4:36:29 PM, Raisor wrote:
At 8/25/2013 9:06:13 AM, 000ike wrote:
It's just a meaningless generalization, I wouldn't worry about it.

Besides, I'm not sure where I learned this, but I think Churchill's most famous quotes were uttered while he was drunk.

Curchill was just always drunk. He would drink a glass of sherry before breakfast, drink scotch at lunch, and just keep on keeping on. People commented that the sobriety with which he acted was almost as impressive as the quantity he consumed.

To OP: All young conservatives are dysfunctional and should promptly check-in to a reprogramming centre under the new Obamacare provisions.

Please change your political stance, you are not a moderate. I can't respect people who put on their profile that they are moderate or apathetic when they clearly show a bias. Claiming to be a moderate to gain credibility is pretty low bud.

I thought that was a pretty moderate joke- poking fun at exaggerations about Obamacare while showing I think claims that young conservatives are dysfuntional is equally silly.

Anyways you know nothing about me. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats, I have a great deal of respect for certain politicians on both side of the aisle. I don't know how you can be more of a moderate than that.
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8/25/2013 7:48:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 9:11:25 AM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/25/2013 9:06:13 AM, 000ike wrote:
It's just a meaningless generalization, I wouldn't worry about it.

Besides, I'm not sure where I learned this, but I think Churchill's most famous quotes were uttered while he was drunk.

To be fair drunken conversation makes for some of the most profound realizations.

^ agreed
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8/25/2013 7:50:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 8:40:38 AM, Jsimbana wrote:
More recently I've been hearing the following quote by Winston Churchill "Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains."

Does this mean its wrong to be young and a conservative? Or can it simply be we have come to our senses before many others? Besides I like to think I have a heart..

I'm going to take "young" here to include all people under age 30.

I've known many young conservatives who were good people, who cared about others, and who did good things. I've known many fiercely intelligent old liberals. But, those words have a bit of a different meaning in the US and the UK...
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8/26/2013 11:14:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm 21 year old strong Conservative. It's very difficult because Liberals are always talking at me, especially since my whole family are Liberal. I am on here to find people with the same beliefs as me and to get away from Liberals but it seems they are everywhere. I'm not saying anything bad about Liberals in fact I respect their beliefs. I'm just saying that I'm overwhelmed by all these attacks.
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8/26/2013 11:17:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 7:48:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/25/2013 9:11:25 AM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/25/2013 9:06:13 AM, 000ike wrote:
It's just a meaningless generalization, I wouldn't worry about it.

Besides, I'm not sure where I learned this, but I think Churchill's most famous quotes were uttered while he was drunk.

To be fair drunken conversation makes for some of the most profound realizations.

^ agreed
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8/26/2013 11:54:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/26/2013 11:17:57 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/25/2013 7:48:01 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/25/2013 9:11:25 AM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/25/2013 9:06:13 AM, 000ike wrote:
It's just a meaningless generalization, I wouldn't worry about it.

Besides, I'm not sure where I learned this, but I think Churchill's most famous quotes were uttered while he was drunk.

To be fair drunken conversation makes for some of the most profound realizations.

^ agreed
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8/26/2013 12:46:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/25/2013 6:51:05 PM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
At 8/25/2013 6:10:45 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 8/25/2013 5:27:46 PM, Cowboy0108 wrote:
I'm a young conservative. I have a heart. For the people who can't help themselves. For my people. But most people can help themselves and choose not too. And many people aren't my people, so I could really care less.
Look at it this way, what I lack in heart, is made up for by my brains. I have a big brain. Besides, my brain will help people, my heart will not.

Haha tell us more about your big brain you big boy.
Also I'd be curious to know who your people were, the Aryan race?

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