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Best ways to combat Chinese regional hegemony

ConservativeAmerican
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8/31/2013 4:43:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
What are good ideas on how to combat Chinese regional hegemony without direct conflict? I always thought re militarizing japan would help a lot.
YYW
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8/31/2013 4:56:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/31/2013 4:43:42 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
What are good ideas on how to combat Chinese regional hegemony without direct conflict? I always thought re militarizing japan would help a lot.

Why do you think China is actually a threat to the United States in any geopolitical sense?

Their damnably irritating proclivity to obstinately defy the west in terms of Security Council resolutions notwithstanding, the US and China are good allies. The Russians, less so.
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ConservativeAmerican
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8/31/2013 5:05:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Our relationship with china is more complex then you make it out to be, sure they our one of our strongest economic allies, hell, I would even venture to say our economies are reliant on one another. While all of this us happening; we are playing naval war games with them alongside the aussies and Philippinos.
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8/31/2013 5:09:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/31/2013 5:05:18 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
Our relationship with china is more complex then you make it out to be, sure they our one of our strongest economic allies, hell, I would even venture to say our economies are reliant on one another. While all of this us happening; we are playing naval war games with them alongside the aussies and Philippinos.

lol, I didn't imply that the complexity of Sino-American relations could be summed up in one sentence -and I don't think I did. But, that aside, China will not attack the US directly or indirectly as long as we don't attack them either directly or indirectly. There's just no reason to...
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8/31/2013 5:13:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Nuclear weapons would be most effective.

But combating it isn't what we should be concerned with.
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8/31/2013 5:58:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/31/2013 5:13:32 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Nuclear weapons would be most effective.

But combating it isn't what we should be concerned with.

nuclear weapons are probably a last resort
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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8/31/2013 6:02:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The Chinese have no interest in America being extremely damaged and unable to throw money its way.

But if you could find a way to force their currency off it's undervalue, it'd be a good start.
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8/31/2013 6:09:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
A lot of people make the false assumption that economic ties prevent war, this is the flawed rationale for why WWI would never occur. As I said, total war economies can sustain a nation for years, as long as they haven't ran out of people to use the weapons. Assuming the nation uses the resources of their imperial gains, they can sustain themselves for even longer.
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8/31/2013 6:12:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/31/2013 6:09:36 PM, ConservativeAmerican wrote:
A lot of people make the false assumption that economic ties prevent war, this is the flawed rationale for why WWI would never occur. As I said, total war economies can sustain a nation for years, as long as they haven't ran out of people to use the weapons. Assuming the nation uses the resources of their imperial gains, they can sustain themselves for even longer.

a war between us and china would probably have something to do with north korea. we keep pushing and pushing to weaken north korea and I think china is getting tired of it. we're going to do something so drastic against north korea that it will be the straw that broke the camels back. why can't we be like other countries and not have to make every country like us. its so fvcking annoying now
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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8/31/2013 6:14:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/31/2013 5:13:32 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Nuclear weapons would be most effective.

But combating it isn't what we should be concerned with.

Nuclear weapons are like old radios, everyone has them, but would be socially outcasted for using it (unless you're a hipster, that is). In all seriousness, if the USA finishes its laser project (Reagan's wet dream), then america would be the first nation to defy the MAD theory, then we could use our nukes indiscriminately, which even scares me.
ConservativeAmerican
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8/31/2013 6:16:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Although for all we know, by the time the gov't says they have started a military project, they already have it finished and ready for use.
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9/1/2013 11:33:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Why does the US need to combat Chinese regional hegemony?
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?
ConservativeAmerican
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9/2/2013 3:19:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Although for all we know, by the time the gov't says they have started a military project, they already have it finished and ready for use.