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9/15/2013 4:25:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
On a scale of 1-10 how much do you like or appreciate RAND Paul? Why?
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9/15/2013 5:56:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
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9/15/2013 6:20:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
1/10.

90% sure he's an anarchist like daddy, and definitely not someone who needs to have a seat in the Senate.
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9/15/2013 8:54:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
"They"re precisely the same people who are unwilling to cut the spending and their "Gimme, gimme, gimme"give me all the Sandy [Hurricane Sandy] money now," those are the people who are bankrupting the government and not letting enough money be left over for national defense." - Rand Paul

"Kentucky has numerous military installations and military contractors who must be quite pleased with how Rand Paul has dropped his fathers" notable opposition to the bloated military budget and the imperial consequences of empire building. Meanwhile, Senator Paul has little trouble on another spending front"namely that Kentucky gets $1.51 back for every tax dollar it sends to Washington D.C." - Ralph Nader

"The differences between father and son are ones of personality, policy and opportunism. Since Rand Paul is intent on running for president in 2016, his drift toward the corporatist Republicans is noteworthy." - Ralph Nader

"Senator Paul refers often to the Constitution and its preamble that starts with "we the people." But his votes seem to reflect that he supports big business, including big oil, gaining more power over the people or at the expense of the people. Surely he knows that nowhere in the U.S Constitution do the words "corporation" or "company" appear." - Ralph Nader

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9/15/2013 8:57:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
You can count my rating as least favorable. Most libertarians appear to sacrifice a flexible grasp of reality in favor of an internal idealism, but Rand managed to sacrifice his idealism without regaining any grasp of reality.
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9/15/2013 9:10:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/15/2013 8:57:39 PM, brant.merrell wrote:
You can count my rating as least favorable. Most libertarians appear to sacrifice a flexible grasp of reality in favor of an internal idealism, but Rand managed to sacrifice his idealism without regaining any grasp of reality.

While I don't follow Rand Paul as closely as I followed his father (still at a distance), I would give him a bit of credit for following his ideals on some things. Not that I'm completely disagreeing with brant.merrell. This is a relative judgement that could well change if I watched him more closely.

As a pragmatic libertarian who considers himself in favor of progress ("proglib"), for me the court is still out on the younger Mr. Paul. He seems to either cater to the religious right or have similar views--not much better of a prospect, IMHO.

I give him a 4.
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9/15/2013 9:39:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
is there anything less then zero?
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9/15/2013 11:26:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/15/2013 9:39:33 PM, imabench wrote:
is there anything less then zero?

Are you failing math imabench?

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9/16/2013 3:54:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/15/2013 6:20:48 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
1/10.

90% sure he's an anarchist like daddy, and definitely not someone who needs to have a seat in the Senate.

Interesting. It's because I have the opposite conception as you that I give him a 1/10.
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9/16/2013 2:45:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
10/10

Liberals hate him because he supports too much Liberty.

Libertarians hate him because he isn't full on Anarchist.

Conservatives like him.

The fact is, Rand Paul is the most Libertarian Senator in the last 100 years, but somehow it isn't enough.
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9/16/2013 4:04:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/15/2013 4:25:39 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
On a scale of 1-10 how much do you like or appreciate RAND Paul? Why?

I can't make up my mind on what to think about Rand Paul and that bothers me. He seems to be your typical refined GOP grease ball but still gives lip service to his father's principles. I certainly don't see him as the heir apparent to Ron Paul's ideals. He makes me uncomfortable.

So...4?