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10/19/2013 12:06:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I mean honestly. Every time I stand up for gay rights, reproductive rights, women's rights, etc. some GOP slave jumps all over me. I am so sorry that my desire for equal protection under the law gets in the way of their bigotry. I have no problem with the Ron Paul Republicans who do not lean to either side. While they are mistaken on a lot of things, I respect their constiancy. The same with the centrist Republicans. It's the conservative Republicans that are a pain in my @ss.
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10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....
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10/19/2013 12:59:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At the risk of being a jerk, though, and while bench is right and all...some of it might be your method of delivery. You have a tendency to make sweeping statements that are sometimes...less than wholly accurate.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just to point out that it might be a contributing factor.
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10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.
"I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being that his is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and will blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question. 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"
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10/19/2013 6:44:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.
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10/19/2013 8:45:46 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I am a conservative with socially progressive tendencies.
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10/19/2013 12:01:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.

Santorum?
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10/19/2013 1:45:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

A nasty, yet hilarious and accurate analogy.
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10/19/2013 2:16:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 12:01:40 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.

Santorum?

Eh, a little bit. He was probably my number one pick out of all the candidates.
"I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being that his is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and will blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question. 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"
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10/19/2013 2:19:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 2:16:20 PM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:01:40 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.

Santorum?

Eh, a little bit. He was probably my number one pick out of all the candidates.

Yeah there were a few Santorum threads around here during election time too, but not that many compared to Romney and Ron Paul. The few that were here usually belonged to 1HistoryGenius as well
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10/19/2013 2:46:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 2:19:32 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/19/2013 2:16:20 PM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:01:40 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.

Santorum?

Eh, a little bit. He was probably my number one pick out of all the candidates.

Yeah there were a few Santorum threads around here during election time too, but not that many compared to Romney and Ron Paul. The few that were here usually belonged to 1HistoryGenius as well

I could imagine. I wasn't on DDO at that time, but I can imagine the chaos on here during election time.
"I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being that his is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and will blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question. 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"
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10/19/2013 2:56:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 2:46:11 PM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 2:19:32 PM, imabench wrote:

Yeah there were a few Santorum threads around here during election time too, but not that many compared to Romney and Ron Paul. The few that were here usually belonged to 1HistoryGenius as well

I could imagine. I wasn't on DDO at that time, but I can imagine the chaos on here during election time.

lol, yeah it was.... When Obama won the sh*t had literally hit the fan on here and people were BEYOND pissed off.....

I think some people even left the site after that
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10/19/2013 3:09:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 2:19:32 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/19/2013 2:16:20 PM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:01:40 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.

Santorum?

Eh, a little bit. He was probably my number one pick out of all the candidates.

Yeah there were a few Santorum threads around here during election time too, but not that many compared to Romney and Ron Paul. The few that were here usually belonged to 1HistoryGenius as well

I thought he was a fan of the great donut.
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10/19/2013 3:11:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.

Good job, bench.
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10/19/2013 3:18:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 2:56:11 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/19/2013 2:46:11 PM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 2:19:32 PM, imabench wrote:

Yeah there were a few Santorum threads around here during election time too, but not that many compared to Romney and Ron Paul. The few that were here usually belonged to 1HistoryGenius as well

I could imagine. I wasn't on DDO at that time, but I can imagine the chaos on here during election time.

lol, yeah it was.... When Obama won the sh*t had literally hit the fan on here and people were BEYOND pissed off.....

I think some people even left the site after that

Wow, that's crazy. I was honestly depressed when he was elected. My whole family was. He just hasn't done anything good for us. He took all of Bush's mistakes and instead of fixing them, only continued them, while pointing the finger at Bush. My family was actually doing better when Bush was president, but it's not like we're anywhere near rich.

I honestly hope that Obama does well, I mean I'm not going to sit here and say, "I hope he destroys the country just so the country realizes what a monster he is." The sad thing is, that's kind of what's happening. Nothing has improved in the last 5 years, and I don't think anything will:/
"I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being that his is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and will blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question. 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"
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10/19/2013 3:27:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

My Spaggetti Monster, that is sad.
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10/19/2013 3:28:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.
Ron Paul Republican or Sarah Palin Republican?
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10/19/2013 3:32:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 3:28:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.
Ron Paul Republican or Sarah Palin Republican?

If they were both to run for president, and every other candidate had a heart attack, probably Palin. It would be cool to see a woman president that's not Clinton. Honestly, I don't know...I'm more of a Thomas Jefferson type.
"I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being that his is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and will blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question. 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"
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10/19/2013 3:33:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 3:28:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.

Ron Paul Republican or Sarah Palin Republican?

I think he said he was a Santorum leaning republican
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10/19/2013 3:43:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 3:33:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/19/2013 3:28:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.

Ron Paul Republican or Sarah Palin Republican?

I think he said he was a Santorum leaning republican
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10/19/2013 9:09:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 3:32:53 PM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 3:28:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.
Ron Paul Republican or Sarah Palin Republican?

If they were both to run for president, and every other candidate had a heart attack, probably Palin. It would be cool to see a woman president that's not Clinton. Honestly, I don't know...I'm more of a Thomas Jefferson type.

Hey, heart attacks aren't always fatal.
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10/20/2013 1:10:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 12:06:17 AM, Sitara wrote:
I mean honestly. Every time I stand up for gay rights, reproductive rights, women's rights, etc. some GOP slave jumps all over me. I am so sorry that my desire for equal protection under the law gets in the way of their bigotry. I have no problem with the Ron Paul Republicans who do not lean to either side. While they are mistaken on a lot of things, I respect their constiancy. The same with the centrist Republicans. It's the conservative Republicans that are a pain in my @ss.

I'm sorry that this website isn't the liberal circle jerk community you were clearly expecting. It must be so foreign of an experience to have someone actually challenge your views.
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10/20/2013 3:03:01 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/20/2013 1:10:12 AM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:06:17 AM, Sitara wrote:
I mean honestly. Every time I stand up for gay rights, reproductive rights, women's rights, etc. some GOP slave jumps all over me. I am so sorry that my desire for equal protection under the law gets in the way of their bigotry. I have no problem with the Ron Paul Republicans who do not lean to either side. While they are mistaken on a lot of things, I respect their constiancy. The same with the centrist Republicans. It's the conservative Republicans that are a pain in my @ss.

I'm sorry that this website isn't the liberal circle jerk community you were clearly expecting. It must be so foreign of an experience to have someone actually challenge your views.

i respect people who respect me. If you want my respect, pucking earn it. Are you able to present a logical case or is that too hard for your puny conservacrite brain?
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10/20/2013 3:04:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 12:59:59 AM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At the risk of being a jerk, though, and while bench is right and all...some of it might be your method of delivery. You have a tendency to make sweeping statements that are sometimes...less than wholly accurate.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just to point out that it might be a contributing factor.

No I don't. I just stand up for what i believe in and demand logic. Either back up your claims or hiss off.
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10/20/2013 3:06:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/19/2013 3:32:53 PM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 3:28:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:48:55 AM, imabench wrote:
Oh yeah someone forgot to mention this I guess..... The political section of this site has now long been overrun by conservatives, with a few libertarians thrown in here and there too.

You should have seen this place during the presidential campaign, imagine if Romney and Ron Paul's presidential campaign HQ's had buttsex and produced a child, that was basically what the DDO politics forum looked like.....

I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.
Ron Paul Republican or Sarah Palin Republican?

If they were both to run for president, and every other candidate had a heart attack, probably Palin. It would be cool to see a woman president that's not Clinton. Honestly, I don't know...I'm more of a Thomas Jefferson type.

I would pick Ron Paul. i voted for him actually.
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10/20/2013 8:06:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/20/2013 3:04:19 AM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:59:59 AM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At the risk of being a jerk, though, and while bench is right and all...some of it might be your method of delivery. You have a tendency to make sweeping statements that are sometimes...less than wholly accurate.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just to point out that it might be a contributing factor.

No I don't. I just stand up for what i believe in and demand logic. Either back up your claims or hiss off.

Well, that's rather uncalled for--especially when a trivial example is easy to find:

http://www.debate.org...

In that one, bench corrected you, and you were gracious in accepting the correction. But the original post was a sweeping statement...that was not wholly accurate. That you responded the way you did might also be a contributing factor--as I said in my original post, I'm not trying to be mean. That it seems to have angered you to have this pointed out to you--and that it was so trivial to find an example--might be something that you want to look at.
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10/20/2013 10:10:20 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/20/2013 3:06:14 AM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/19/2013 3:32:53 PM, ironmaiden wrote:
At 10/19/2013 3:28:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/19/2013 1:19:26 AM, ironmaiden wrote:
I may be a conservative...but let's get one thing straight, I am not a Romney fan.
Ron Paul Republican or Sarah Palin Republican?

If they were both to run for president, and every other candidate had a heart attack, probably Palin. It would be cool to see a woman president that's not Clinton. Honestly, I don't know...I'm more of a Thomas Jefferson type.

I would pick Ron Paul. i voted for him actually.

Oh, you did? Hmm, cool. I didn't really know much Ron Paul, but I didn't think Palin was as bad as everyone else thought. But when I don't know much about somebody I tend to be real careful about them, all of these crazy Republicans who I would hate to see be president. And although I'm not a Romney fan, I am a big Paul Ryan fan. He seemed a little more genuine than others.
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10/20/2013 11:24:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/20/2013 3:03:01 AM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/20/2013 1:10:12 AM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 10/19/2013 12:06:17 AM, Sitara wrote:
I mean honestly. Every time I stand up for gay rights, reproductive rights, women's rights, etc. some GOP slave jumps all over me. I am so sorry that my desire for equal protection under the law gets in the way of their bigotry. I have no problem with the Ron Paul Republicans who do not lean to either side. While they are mistaken on a lot of things, I respect their constiancy. The same with the centrist Republicans. It's the conservative Republicans that are a pain in my @ss.

I'm sorry that this website isn't the liberal circle jerk community you were clearly expecting. It must be so foreign of an experience to have someone actually challenge your views.

i respect people who respect me. If you want my respect, pucking earn it. Are you able to present a logical case or is that too hard for your puny conservacrite brain?

You really want to go down the route of insulting how peoples brains work? ;) I don't think that would be wise considering.
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10/20/2013 11:28:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
To be fair, it wouldn't be much of a debate site if people didn't disagree with you.
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